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Senior dies, nurse refused to do CPR

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There is no legal requirment for the nurse to have done CPR on this woman. Do you agree or disagree with the way this nurse handled this?

http://www.hlntv.com/video/2013/03/04/nurse-refuses-cpr-911-call


by on Mar. 4, 2013 at 12:44 PM
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Anonymous
by Anonymous 1 on Mar. 4, 2013 at 1:04 PM
My DH was a security supervisor at a big casino and while on the clock a lady started having a heart atack and according to policy if they are still breathing he couldnt perform CPR, so he just had to choose to sit there with her, holding her hand while they waited for thr EMTs to make their way through, unfortunately she died in the ambulance and he took leave for about 2 weeks to cope, but he had to choose between supporting his family or losing his job. Why risk it when she was still breathing in his presence? And the family had nothing but kind things to say, simply because he was there and as attentive as he could be.
Dee0886
by Gold Member on Mar. 4, 2013 at 1:04 PM

They may have settled out of court if she threatened to sue and was told to say that lol. wouldn't put it past them.

Quoting bullemhead:

 What is even more shocking is the fact that the media contacted  the patients daughter who said she was "satisfied with the care her mother received". Wow.


LizzieAnnesMom
by ☆Mrs.Winchester☆ on Mar. 4, 2013 at 1:04 PM
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2287880/Glenwood-Gardens-Lorraine-Bayless-pictured-nurse-refuses-CPR.html

She had a dnr. Also, many assisted living facilities have that policy.


Quoting KeriAZ:

Not that I heard of. It was the screwed up policy of not doing CPR on anyone. The nurse said nothing abt a dnr. If she would have the 911 operater would have known and would have just stopped.



Quoting LizzieAnnesMom:

She had a dnr.
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RiotousDigits
by Ruby Member on Mar. 4, 2013 at 1:05 PM
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Not quite seeing all the fuss...

Residents knew of the policy and chose to live there.  The nurse was doing her job as outlined by her employer.  Her job prevented her from intervening.  The daughter of the deceased is "satisfied" by the care her mother received.

Long story short, read the fine print.  If you don't like this, don't live, work, or place a loved one in a fascility with this policy in tact.

fkh8ah
by on Mar. 4, 2013 at 1:05 PM
I agree


Quoting LizzieAnnesMom:

What would be the point of cpr if she was still breathing. You only do compressions if there is no heartbeat, and mouth to mouth if they arent breahing.



Quoting fkh8ah:

Why should the nurse have criminal charges brought against her? She was following policy.


What if that was her only source of income and she had babies at home to feed and put shelter over? Ya it is sad that someone died...but if it comes down to my children or a stranger, i sound like a bitch, but i choose my children first.





Not to mention, she was still breathing when the EMT's arrived...alot of places have a policy about performing cpr if they are still breathing, since you can do more harm than good.






Quoting KeriAZ:

As a medical provider by law they have a duty to act within their scope of practice if they are on duty. Off duty its a moral thing. I read this and was sooooo pissed off. Why does the SNF have nurses if they are not allowed to do their job?! I hope they are sued out of business and criminal charges brought against the nurse and SNF. Shame on them.


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MicheleJM
by Phoenix on Mar. 4, 2013 at 1:05 PM
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It depends on HOW she's breathing.  I just took CPR.  Gasping, irregular breathing, no breathing...you now do chest compressions.  You don't have to breathe for the patient they say the compressions are the most important.  They don't really want you wasting a lot of time checking for a pulse...go to compressions.

Quoting LizzieAnnesMom:

What would be the point of cpr if she was still breathing. You only do compressions if there is no heartbeat, and mouth to mouth if they arent breahing.

Quoting fkh8ah:

Why should the nurse have criminal charges brought against her? She was following policy.

What if that was her only source of income and she had babies at home to feed and put shelter over? Ya it is sad that someone died...but if it comes down to my children or a stranger, i sound like a bitch, but i choose my children first.



Not to mention, she was still breathing when the EMT's arrived...alot of places have a policy about performing cpr if they are still breathing, since you can do more harm than good.




Quoting KeriAZ:

As a medical provider by law they have a duty to act within their scope of practice if they are on duty. Off duty its a moral thing. I read this and was sooooo pissed off. Why does the SNF have nurses if they are not allowed to do their job?! I hope they are sued out of business and criminal charges brought against the nurse and SNF. Shame on them.



Anonymous
by Anonymous 2 on Mar. 4, 2013 at 1:06 PM
Of course she's satisfied, a DNR was involved.


Quoting bullemhead:

 What is even more shocking is the fact that the media contacted  the patients daughter who said she was "satisfied with the care her mother received". Wow.


bullemhead
by Platinum Member on Mar. 4, 2013 at 1:06 PM

 You're probably right!

Quoting Dee0886:

They may have settled out of court if she threatened to sue and was told to say that lol. wouldn't put it past them.

Quoting bullemhead:

 What is even more shocking is the fact that the media contacted  the patients daughter who said she was "satisfied with the care her mother received". Wow.


 

illinoismommy83
by on Mar. 4, 2013 at 1:06 PM

When you are AT work you follow your company's policies. Most elderly care facilities have strict rules for staff to follow AND the family gets a book detailing them when they make the decision to use the facility. The lady was breathing. What if CPR did more harm?

Watch an elderly person in the independent living area fall down in the cafeteria. The food staff will stand around her till someone comes to help, but they sure as hell aren't going to lift her or touch her. They will simply talk to her until help arrives. It seems asinine to an outsider, but company policy is there to protect the patient and the employee. What if they lifted her wrong and did serious damage? 

fkh8ah
by on Mar. 4, 2013 at 1:07 PM
Oops i hit the anon. Button


Quoting Anonymous:

My DH was a security supervisor at a big casino and while on the clock a lady started having a heart atack and according to policy if they are still breathing he couldnt perform CPR, so he just had to choose to sit there with her, holding her hand while they waited for thr EMTs to make their way through, unfortunately she died in the ambulance and he took leave for about 2 weeks to cope, but he had to choose between supporting his family or losing his job. Why risk it when she was still breathing in his presence? And the family had nothing but kind things to say, simply because he was there and as attentive as he could be.

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