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That lady wants to have my son expelled (long)

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So my son, who has some issues which I won't name to try and keep bias out of the post, was at school the other day. He is in kinder. We are not super religious, but we do pray daily as a family, I read the bible to my kids and we have discussions. We don't go to church though.

Anyways, the kids were having field day events, and they were eating outside. My son asks if the teacher will lead the class in prayer, after she explains that she can't, she told him he could pray by himself. So before he ate, he began to pray. Well other kids saw him and began to copy. He only asked the teacher because she was there, usually at lunch time the teacher just drops the kids off in the cafeteria and leaves. This day, the kids ate outside picnic style with their teacher, so he asked her to pray, since dh always leads us at our dinner table.

(We pray before every meal. When we have guests, we invite them, but they don't have to pray with us if they don't want to. We never force religion on anyone, we don't discuss religion other than prayers before a meal, when company is present, unless company brings it up. )

Well, a little boy's mother from up the street came to my house today (our sons are in class together) and started yelling at me for preaching to her kid. She told me to keep my "cult bull shit" to myself. When I tried to explain that he prays before every meal on his own, she cut me off and cussed me out some more. I lowered my voice again, almost to a whisper, and I basically told her that if she doesn't stop using that foul language in the presence of my children I would rip her tongue right out of her mouth! She looked absolutely shocked. She asked me if that was a threat. I asked her if it needed to be. I told her that her assumptions where a misunderstanding that she was throwing out of proportion and she needed to calm down and think rationally. I explained to her what happened, I apologized that her son copied my son, my son does not do that to be copied, but I will not make him stop either. She basically told me that I was full of it, that I was breaking the law pushing religion into the school and forcing her child to do things he shouldn't have to. She walked away telling me that I was what is wrong with this country and she would find a way to get my son expelled.

So I'm sitting here wondering, am I? I prayed by myself in school, I never forced my friends to pray with me, I never say with a group because they prayed or didn't pray. In fact none of my friends prayed. I never forced my kids to pray, they learned by watching us, they asked questions and I answered them with "I believe..." and explained that there are other beliefs as well. I want them to be able to choose whatever works for them. If they want to be Catholic,Muslim, Buddhist, Wiccan, or Atheist, I don't care. I have exposed them, I will not stop doing what I believe but I will not hide what the world offers, I have shown them where they can find information about other religions, or if they have questions, we look it up together. Is it so bad that he prays over his lunch every day by himself? I explained to him that his teacher cannot pray with him and that he shouldn't ask people at school to pray with him, but I don't see why he can't simply bless his food before he eats his lunch. He doesn't pray out loud, he simply folds his hands, bows his head and whispers to himself. Is this really worth him being expelled? Did I really do something so horrible by allowing this? I do believe in the separation of church and state, as far as the school shouldn't have to teach religion, but that doesn't mean a cognitive person shouldn't be allowed to say grace privately before a meal, right?

Posted by Anonymous on May. 24, 2013 at 7:01 PM
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by Anonymous 5 on May. 24, 2013 at 7:12 PM
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Good for him :). Way to go little man!!
by on May. 24, 2013 at 7:12 PM
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I'm going to say more than one.

Quoting luckysevenwow:

Your son did nothing wrong. The woman has an issue.

by on May. 24, 2013 at 7:12 PM
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She's probably an atheist on CM. Lol. I don't think anything is wrong with your son praying at school, and asking what the equivalent of the head of the table, to pray. She politely told him no, and so he did his own thing. Maybe that lady needs to teach her kid to not be a follower. 

by Silver Member on May. 24, 2013 at 7:13 PM
Yes because praying is the worst thing that can happen in a school smh.
by Blessed be on May. 24, 2013 at 7:14 PM

You and your son did nothing wrong as far as praying. You really shouldn't have threatened her. That just justified her opinion of you. I don't believe they will expel your son on those grounds either.

by Bronze Member on May. 24, 2013 at 7:14 PM
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I think that other lady is crazy your son did nothing wrong while I'm not religious I have no problem with other people choosing to be my daughter is not old enough to pray or even know what it is she's only 1 if at some point in time she chooses to practice a religion I certainly won't stop her.

by Anonymous 6 on May. 24, 2013 at 7:14 PM
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As someone that isn't religous, your son has every right to pray to himself.
by Ruby Member on May. 24, 2013 at 7:17 PM
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She's a nut job and I would have called the cops when she started screaming.
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by on May. 24, 2013 at 7:17 PM
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What a nut case. God forbid someone prays in public, they get attacked for "preaching bullshit". But an athiest can get in your face and say your wrong? Based on a theory different than your own? Unbelievable...

She is whats wrong with this country.

by Gold Member on May. 24, 2013 at 7:19 PM
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This is coming from an atheist, but no, I don't think you or your son did anything wrong. I believe kids shouldn't be forced to pray, but I also believe they shouldn't be forced NOT to. If your son wants to pray before his meal, he should be allowed to. They're in kindergarten, so it's pretty natural for other kids to copy him. I'm sure this doesn't all of a sudden make them believe in anything they didn't believe in before. If that would happen to my kid, I would use it as a teaching moment, and tell him about the different religions, and the different customs that go with it.

She over reacted, for sure.

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