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That lady wants to have my son expelled (long)

Posted by Anonymous   + Show Post
So my son, who has some issues which I won't name to try and keep bias out of the post, was at school the other day. He is in kinder. We are not super religious, but we do pray daily as a family, I read the bible to my kids and we have discussions. We don't go to church though.

Anyways, the kids were having field day events, and they were eating outside. My son asks if the teacher will lead the class in prayer, after she explains that she can't, she told him he could pray by himself. So before he ate, he began to pray. Well other kids saw him and began to copy. He only asked the teacher because she was there, usually at lunch time the teacher just drops the kids off in the cafeteria and leaves. This day, the kids ate outside picnic style with their teacher, so he asked her to pray, since dh always leads us at our dinner table.

(We pray before every meal. When we have guests, we invite them, but they don't have to pray with us if they don't want to. We never force religion on anyone, we don't discuss religion other than prayers before a meal, when company is present, unless company brings it up. )

Well, a little boy's mother from up the street came to my house today (our sons are in class together) and started yelling at me for preaching to her kid. She told me to keep my "cult bull shit" to myself. When I tried to explain that he prays before every meal on his own, she cut me off and cussed me out some more. I lowered my voice again, almost to a whisper, and I basically told her that if she doesn't stop using that foul language in the presence of my children I would rip her tongue right out of her mouth! She looked absolutely shocked. She asked me if that was a threat. I asked her if it needed to be. I told her that her assumptions where a misunderstanding that she was throwing out of proportion and she needed to calm down and think rationally. I explained to her what happened, I apologized that her son copied my son, my son does not do that to be copied, but I will not make him stop either. She basically told me that I was full of it, that I was breaking the law pushing religion into the school and forcing her child to do things he shouldn't have to. She walked away telling me that I was what is wrong with this country and she would find a way to get my son expelled.

So I'm sitting here wondering, am I? I prayed by myself in school, I never forced my friends to pray with me, I never say with a group because they prayed or didn't pray. In fact none of my friends prayed. I never forced my kids to pray, they learned by watching us, they asked questions and I answered them with "I believe..." and explained that there are other beliefs as well. I want them to be able to choose whatever works for them. If they want to be Catholic,Muslim, Buddhist, Wiccan, or Atheist, I don't care. I have exposed them, I will not stop doing what I believe but I will not hide what the world offers, I have shown them where they can find information about other religions, or if they have questions, we look it up together. Is it so bad that he prays over his lunch every day by himself? I explained to him that his teacher cannot pray with him and that he shouldn't ask people at school to pray with him, but I don't see why he can't simply bless his food before he eats his lunch. He doesn't pray out loud, he simply folds his hands, bows his head and whispers to himself. Is this really worth him being expelled? Did I really do something so horrible by allowing this? I do believe in the separation of church and state, as far as the school shouldn't have to teach religion, but that doesn't mean a cognitive person shouldn't be allowed to say grace privately before a meal, right?

Posted by Anonymous on May. 24, 2013 at 7:01 PM
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Retrokitty
by Jasmyne on May. 24, 2013 at 7:19 PM
I'm an athiest and I think she was nuts.
Anouck
by Gold Member on May. 24, 2013 at 7:20 PM

It's never a good idea to generalize, I'm an atheist on CM, and I just told her she and her son did nothing wrong. You, however, just exposed yourself to be just as bad as the mom in the story. Way to go! 


Quoting ajdahd13:

She's probably an atheist on CM. Lol. I don't think anything is wrong with your son praying at school, and asking what the equivalent of the head of the table, to pray. She politely told him no, and so he did his own thing. Maybe that lady needs to teach her kid to not be a follower. 


 

LilliesValley
by on May. 24, 2013 at 7:21 PM
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I don't think your son did anything wrong, nor did the teacher. Your son is allowed to pray to himself at a public school. The teacher of course cannot lead a prayer but your son can pray before lunch. the mom was out of control and would not calm down. If she needed to be threatened to calm down or just shut up at that point, so be it. There's nothing she can do and she can't get him expelled. This is why I'm glad dd goes to Catholic school. While we are raising her Catholic, it's not the be all end all. I think kids need something but we let her know about other religions. I'm not "very" Catholic and when she asks questions I tell her what Catholics believe, what I believe, what dh believes (if I know and it differs from Catholicism) and what other religions believe. I think she'll find her own way. But at least I know everyone else (even if they aren't Catholic) wants to send their kids there and chooses to. Avoids situations like this.

gammie
by on May. 24, 2013 at 7:23 PM


The child did nothing wrong!!

who is always making a big deal is always the none religous, you are annoying!

Quoting Anonymous:

Religious people are so annoying.



ajdahd13
by Ruby Member on May. 24, 2013 at 7:23 PM

You don't know how to read, way to go on showing your stupidity!!! I never said all atheists on CM. Don't act like all of you are so sweet, and loving and caring and helpful because if you do it just shows your bias. I will be the first to say there are some awful Christians on here, and in real life. 

Quoting Anouck:

It's never a good idea to generalize, I'm an atheist on CM, and I just told her she and her son did nothing wrong. You, however, just exposed yourself to be just as bad as the mom in the story. Way to go! 


Quoting ajdahd13:

She's probably an atheist on CM. Lol. I don't think anything is wrong with your son praying at school, and asking what the equivalent of the head of the table, to pray. She politely told him no, and so he did his own thing. Maybe that lady needs to teach her kid to not be a follower. 




Anouck
by Gold Member on May. 24, 2013 at 7:24 PM
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God does NOT need to be brought back in schools, because not everybody believes in the same god, or any god. Just like the OP's son should have the right to pray, so do other kids have the right not to. Further more "leading a prayer", really? The kid said a prayer to himself. They're in kindergarten. I'm pretty sure the kids who copied him would have copied him if he started doing handstands, too. That's what kids in kindergarted do. It doesn't mean they all of a sudden "saw the light". You're pushing things way too far in the other direction. Reign it in some.  


Quoting Anonymous:

I think it's wonderful your son prayed at school. God needs to be brought back to schools. But since that will never happen its nice when a child starts leading a prayer. He didn't force any other kid to pray they obviously wanted to on their own and that's fantastic. Get ready to be calling your local news station if your son's school tries to punish him in any way and make sure you threaten the school that you will go to the news and to the district if they try to do anything to punish him. What he did was courageous and you must be so proud of him. What a terrific young man you have.


 

Anouck
by Gold Member on May. 24, 2013 at 7:27 PM

 "She is probably an atheist on CM" most definitely implies that the woman's reaction is a common one on here. Which just isn't true. Atheists in general don't care what anybody believes, they just feel nobody's religious beliefs should be forced onto others. But you believe whatever you want to, no skin off my back :)


Quoting ajdahd13:

You don't know how to read, way to go on showing your stupidity!!! I never said all atheists on CM. Don't act like all of you are so sweet, and loving and caring and helpful because if you do it just shows your bias. I will be the first to say there are some awful Christians on here, and in real life. 

Quoting Anouck:

It's never a good idea to generalize, I'm an atheist on CM, and I just told her she and her son did nothing wrong. You, however, just exposed yourself to be just as bad as the mom in the story. Way to go! 

 

Quoting ajdahd13:

She's probably an atheist on CM. Lol. I don't think anything is wrong with your son praying at school, and asking what the equivalent of the head of the table, to pray. She politely told him no, and so he did his own thing. Maybe that lady needs to teach her kid to not be a follower. 

 

 



 

Anonymous
by Anonymous on May. 24, 2013 at 7:28 PM
You didn't do anything wrong, neither did your son. Your neighbor needs to stop getting her panties in a wad. Neither you or your son were forcing her child to do anything. This is coming from a person who believes that G-D doesn't belong in public schools because not everyone believes. Here in Canada we have Catholic schools and Public schools. You can choose to send your child to either and both are government funded.
PhoenixV
by on May. 24, 2013 at 7:29 PM
This.


Quoting Anonymous:

She's a whack job.  Your son didn't do anything wrong.


Anonymous
by Anonymous on May. 24, 2013 at 7:29 PM
Please don't judge others leave that up to MY God to do. Have a wonderful day. I will say a prayer that you will open your eyes to MY God the only God there is and that you too shall be saved.

Quoting Anouck:

God does NOT need to be brought back in schools, because not everybody believes in the same god, or any god. Just like the OP's son should have the right to pray, so do other kids have the right not to. Further more "leading a prayer", really? The kid said a prayer to himself. They're in kindergarten. I'm pretty sure the kids who copied him would have copied him if he started doing handstands, too. That's what kids in kindergarted do. It doesn't mean they all of a sudden "saw the light". You're pushing things way too far in the other direction. Reign it in some.  




Quoting Anonymous:

I think it's wonderful your son prayed at school. God needs to be brought back to schools. But since that will never happen its nice when a child starts leading a prayer. He didn't force any other kid to pray they obviously wanted to on their own and that's fantastic. Get ready to be calling your local news station if your son's school tries to punish him in any way and make sure you threaten the school that you will go to the news and to the district if they try to do anything to punish him. What he did was courageous and you must be so proud of him. What a terrific young man you have.



 

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