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I wonder how the GZ haters will argue with this? Edited with a question.

Posted by on Jul. 9, 2013 at 2:52 PM
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Question: If you saw someone following you with a gun what would you do?



Attack them

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 **Edit: Am I the only one that thinks if I saw a gun id run NOT fight? Do people really think if he SAW the gun hed fight knowing he could be shot? That doesnt make any sense to me.


George Zimmerman trial: Trayvon Martin was on top of Zimmerman when teen was shot, gunshot wound expert testifies

George Zimmerman listens to testimony in the courtroom for the 21st day of his trial in Seminole circuit court, July 9, 2013 in Sanford, Florida.

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(CBS/AP) SANFORD, Fla. -- A nationally renowned gunshot wound expert testified Tuesday that Trayvon Martin's gunshot wound was consistent with accused murderer George Zimmerman's story that the teen was on top of him and leaning over when he was shot.



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George Zimmerman, a former neighborhood watch captain standing trial in the teen's shooting death, has said Martin attacked him and was on top of him just before the fatal gunshot. Prosecutors have argued Zimmerman profiled the teen and started the confrontation.

Taking the stand for the defense, Dr. Vincent Di Maio, a forensic pathologist, said that Martin's gunshot wound was consistent with the gun's muzzle being against his clothing, which would have been two to four inches away from his body when he was shot.

"If you lean over someone, you notice the clothing tends to fall away from the chest," Di Maio said. "If instead you're lying on your back and someone shoots you, the clothing is going to be against your chest."

Trayvon Martin's mother, Sybrina Fulton, left the courtroom as Di Maio testified. The jury saw graphic photos of Trayvon Martin's gunshot wounds in court.

Who was the aggressor in the Feb. 26, 2012 altercation in the Sanford, Fla., gated community has been a key issue in Zimmerman's second-degree murder trial, which is in its eleventh day of testimony.

Di Maio said that Trayvon Martin would have been alive for about one to three minutes following the gunshot wound, but would have been able to move and speak for at least ten to fifteen seconds.

The testimony was a contrast to the remarks of a medical examiner who conducted Martin's autopsy, who said that the teen could have been alive for up to ten minutes after the gunshot. Dr. Shiping Bao also said he didn't believe Martin would have been able to move after receiving the shot.

Prosecutors have said that George Zimmerman told investigators he moved Martin's arms away from his body after the gunshot, although Martin was found with his arms tucked beneath his chest. Answering a question from defense attorney Don West, Di Maio said that someone may be able to move their arms after receiving a similar gunshot.

Zimmerman's injuries indicate "you've had severe force, it's not just like you bumped your head or something like that," Di Maio said.

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Zimmerman's injuries were consistent with having his head hit against concrete more than once, Di Maio said. The former neighborhood watch captain said the teen smashed his head into a sidewalk several times before he claimed he acted in self-defense.

The testimony was a contrast to another medical examiner, Dr. Valerie Rao, who testified for prosecutors that Zimmerman had "insignificant" injuries that didn't appear to result from multiple impacts against concrete.

Pointing to photos of Zimmerman's injures, Di Maio also said Zimmerman's nose may have been fractured, an injury he said was consistent with being punched in the nose, as Zimmerman said Martin did.

Di Maio also said it's possible to receive trauma without visible wounds. "You can get severe trauma to the head without external injuries, actually," Di Maio said.




Di Maio also explained that if clothes taken into evidence are wet and packaged in plastic bags, and not paper bags, it can ruin the samples since "bacteria multiplies and you get mold and it stinks to high heaven." Defense attorneys believe DNA evidence found on Martin's hooded sweatshirt and undershirt was degraded since the clothing wasn't packaged properly.




Di Maio was still on the stand early Tuesday afternoon after court recessed for lunch.

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by on Jul. 9, 2013 at 2:54 PM
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Could have, might have.. those are not grand statements.

Winning a fight doesn't mean you need to be shot.
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by on Jul. 9, 2013 at 3:01 PM
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If he did not follow the boy non of this wuld have happened!!!!!!!!

I'm tattooed,pagan,pro-choice,pro-legalizing marijuana,pro-gay marriage,anti-war,non-vaxing,tree hugging,animal loving,book reading,animal testing free,depression battling, trying to raise a free spirit and letting her be who she is but still teaching her important life lessons,fighting for equal rights at the same time,don't like it get over it.

by Anonymous 1 on Jul. 9, 2013 at 3:04 PM
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by on Jul. 9, 2013 at 3:06 PM
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He was speculating what might have happened. He was also paid by the defense to testify. He was not there and did not actually see what happened. I really don't care who was on top. What I care about is the fact that he should not have followed him in the first place. He should have listened to the 911 dispatcher and stayed his happy ass in the car. If he would have done that he wouldn't be on trial and Martin would not be dead. I also don't think he should have been charged with 2nd degree murder. It shoud have been manslaughter, given him 3-4 years and everyone can move on.

by Anonymous 2 on Jul. 9, 2013 at 3:06 PM
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how many more of these threads do we really need??

by Anonymous 3 on Jul. 9, 2013 at 3:08 PM
Still doesnt tell me who threw the first punch.
by Anonymous 4 on Jul. 9, 2013 at 3:10 PM
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I want to know how no one knows this? I've known this for a while.

He shouldn't have beat zimmermans head into the ground and he wouldn't have been shot. Is that simple. Self defense is self defense. He had no reason to touch Zimmerman, and Zimmerman had every right to do what he did. I bet none of you have heard the 911 call his neighbor made? You can hear zimmermans cries for help clearly.
by Anonymous 5 on Jul. 9, 2013 at 3:11 PM
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Is it just me, or is Zimmerman getting fat?
by Anonymous 4 on Jul. 9, 2013 at 3:13 PM
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I think the fact that Martin had NO marks on him besides on his hands and the gun shot wound, I'd say he started it by jumping a man from behind and bashing his head into the ground.

Quoting Anonymous:

Still doesnt tell me who threw the first punch.
by Ruby Member on Jul. 9, 2013 at 3:14 PM
Was TM not shot in the back?
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