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**ETA** pedophiles call for the same rights as homosexuals. wtf!

Posted by on Jul. 26, 2013 at 1:04 PM
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ETA: ok, I am reading through all the replies (I wasn't trying to post and abandon...had some family stuff come up). It seems that many people are thinking that I am pro-whatever BS these sickos are spewing. I ABSOLUTELY AM NOT. I think there is a special place in hell for asshats that abuse children. IMO those who seek sex with children are abusers. They are the lowest life form in existence. I do not in any way think that they should be understood or given any legal rights. I have no desire to understand pedophilia or change my mind about it...and I find child porn the absolute worst act of a pedophile.

As for the "I told you so" comment. The only thing I meant by that was that when all the laws started changing in favor of homosexuals the first comment I made was that pedos and those in the world of bestiality would start pressing to legalize their causes. I am in no way comparing homosexuality to pedophilia. I do not think they are in any way the same.

What the hell?! and a big fat I TOLD YOU SO!

what are your thoughts?

do you think their requests are "fair"?

and that they are being treated unfairly?

do you think they're justified?

Initially when I read the title I was instantly irritated. But I like to consider myself a fairly open-minded christian conservative (at least to the point of considering another person's views before forming a knee-jerk opinion). TRULY, I am not a bigoted condemning person.

That being said, here is my opinion on the matter:

1) I cannot accept the opinion that pedophilia is a sexual orientation. It could be classified as a mental disorder (I personally do not know if I actually believe that it is) and when acted upon is a crime for which its victims may never recover mentally or physically. Sex with minors is not something that should ever be acceptable. it is wrong.

2) I am of the belief that we often cannot control who we are attracted to. However, we should always be in control and held responsible for our actions. I do not consider being attracted to animals wrong; just as I do not consider the attraction to children wrong. I very much consider acting upon either of these attractions very wrong.

Using the same tactics used by “gay” rights activists, pedophiles have begun to seek similar status arguing their desire for children is a sexual orientation no different than heterosexual or homosexuals.

Critics of the homosexual lifestyle have long claimed that once it became acceptable to identify homosexuality as simply an “alternative lifestyle” or sexual orientation, logically nothing would be off limits. “Gay” advocates have taken offense at such a position insisting this would never happen. However, psychiatrists are now beginning to advocate redefining pedophilia in the same way homosexuality was redefined several years ago.

In 1973 the American Psychiatric Association declassified homosexuality from its list of mental disorders. A group of psychiatrists with B4U-Act recently held a symposium proposing a new definition of pedophilia in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Health Disorders of the APA.

B4U-Act  calls pedophiles “minor-attracted people.” The organization’s website states its purpose is to, “help mental health professionals learn more about attraction to minors and to consider the effects of stereotyping, stigma and fear.”

In 1998 The APA issued a report claiming “that the ‘negative potential’ of adult sex with children was ‘overstated’ and that ‘the vast majority of both men and women reported no negative sexual effects from  childhood sexual abuse experiences.”

Pedophilia has already been granted protected status by the Federal Government. The Matthew Shephard and James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act lists “sexual orientation” as a protected class; however, it does not define the term.

Republicans attempted to add an amendment specifying that “pedophilia is not covered as an orientation;” however, the amendment was defeated by Democrats. Rep. Alcee Hastings (D-Fl) stated that all alternative sexual lifestyles should be protected under the law. “This bill addresses our resolve to end violence based on prejudice and to guarantee that all Americans, regardless of race, color, religion, national origin, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, or disability or all of these ‘philias’ and fetishes and ‘isms’ that were put forward need not live in fear because of who they are. I urge my colleagues to vote in favor of this rule.”

The White House praised the bill saying, “At root, this isn’t just about our laws; this is about who we are as a people. This is about whether we value one another  – whether we embrace our differences rather than allowing them to become a source of animus.”

Earlier this year two psychologists in Canada declared that pedophilia is a sexual orientation just like homosexuality or heterosexuality.

Van Gijseghem, psychologist and retired professor of the University of Montreal, told members of Parliament, “Pedophiles are not simply people who commit a small offense from time to time but rather are grappling with what is equivalent to a sexual orientation just like another individual may be grappling with heterosexuality or even homosexuality.”

He went on to say, “True pedophiles have an exclusive preference for children, which is the same as having a sexual orientation. You cannot change this person’s sexual orientation. He may, however, remain abstinent.”

When asked if he should be comparing pedophiles to homosexuals, Van Gijseghem replied, “If, for instance, you were living in a society where heterosexuality is proscribed or prohibited and you were told that you had to get therapy to change your sexual orientation, you would probably say that that is slightly crazy. In other words, you would not accept that at all. I use this analogy to say that, yes indeed, pedophiles do not change their sexual orientation.”

Dr. Quinsey, professor emeritus of psychology at Queen’s University in Kingston, Ontario, agreed with Van Gijseghem. Quinsey said pedophiles’ sexual interests prefer children and, “There is no evidence that this sort of preference can be changed through treatment or through anything else.”

In July, 2010 Harvard health Publications said, “Pedophilia is a sexual orientation and unlikely to change. Treatment aims to enable someone to resist acting on his sexual urges.”

Linda Harvey, of Mission America, said the push for pedophiles to have equal rights will become more and more common as LGBT groups continue to assert themselves. “It’s all part of a plan to introduce sex to children at younger and younger ages; to convince them that normal friendship is actually a sexual attraction.”

Milton Diamond, a University of Hawaii professor and director of the Pacific Center for Sex and Society, stated that child pornography could be beneficial to society because, “Potential sex offenders use child pornography as a substitute for sex against children.”

Diamond is a distinguished lecturer for the Institute for the Advanced Study of Human Sexuality in San Francisco. The IASHS openly advocated for the repeal of the Revolutionary war ban on homosexuals serving in the military.

The IASHS lists, on its website, a list of “basic sexual rights” that includes “the right to engage in sexual acts or activities of any kind whatsoever, providing they do not involve nonconsensual acts, violence, constraint, coercion or fraud.” Another right is to, “be free of persecution, condemnation, discrimination, or societal intervention in private sexual behavior” and “the freedom of any sexual thought, fantasy or desire.” The organization also says that no one should be “disadvantaged because of  age.”

Sex offender laws protecting children have been challenged in several states including California, Georgia and Iowa. Sex offenders claim the laws prohibiting them from living near schools or parks are unfair because it penalizes them for life.

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by on Jul. 26, 2013 at 1:13 PM
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This is plain stupid. What's next, should rapists be considered their own sexual orientation?

by Platinum Member on Jul. 26, 2013 at 1:22 PM
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It actually makes alot of sense to me. I still don't think anyone who commits sexual crimes should be defended...they are wrong. But I understand the comparison. They are just saying that both homosexuality and pedophilia are deviations from natural sexual attraction. An adult male and an adult female are supposed to mate. Both situations are deviations from this. And I think that if homosexuality is not a mental disorder than niether is pedophilia- since both are simply an attraction to individuals that it is not the biological norm to "mate" with. Should it still be a crime? Yes, of course...but only because they are hurting children. If homosexuals were hurting someone then that would need to be a crime too. I agree that they are in the same class of abnormal sexual orientations, they just differ in their impact on others/society.
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by on Jul. 26, 2013 at 1:23 PM
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It's insane. The difference between homosexuals and pedophiles is in one, both parties can legally consent, in the other, they can't.

by Ruby Member on Jul. 26, 2013 at 1:25 PM
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That's crazy.
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by Gold Member on Jul. 26, 2013 at 1:26 PM
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I didn't read the artice, don't have to. Anybody who thinks a relationship between TWO CONSENTING ADULTS is the same as an adult being attracted to kids is insane. The end.

by Emerald Member on Jul. 26, 2013 at 1:26 PM

In a fairly decent mood and I know this will probably piss me off, but marking my spot to read this later.

by Platinum Member on Jul. 26, 2013 at 1:27 PM
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And I realize that there are people who will argue till they are blue in the face about how homosexuality is biologically normal because some species of funky whales or whatever do it and blah blah blah.

But it still is not the norm and serves no biological function, which is why I say it is just as unnatural as being a pedophile. And if you want to get technical- animals will also mate with their own offspring or with animals from a much younger generation (pedophilia and incest...) but that doesn't make it socially acceptable for humans.
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by on Jul. 26, 2013 at 1:28 PM




Quoting Anouck:

I didn't read the artice, don't have to. Anybody who thinks a relationship between TWO CONSENTING ADULTS is the same as an adult being attracted to kids is insane. The end.


by on Jul. 26, 2013 at 1:28 PM
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a big fat fuck you in response to the "i told you so"

by Gold Member on Jul. 26, 2013 at 1:30 PM
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Um. This is a ridiculous argument that should be able to be refuted in about five seconds.

Children are not of the age of consent. Pedophilia is not able to be consented to. Homosexuality is about two consenting people marrying and being accepted just like heterosexual couples of the same legal status.

And before someone brings up bestiality, animals are not able to consent, nor are they citizens, so there.

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