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Vaccines are the DEVIL!

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I wonder for people that believe in complete avoidance of vaccines and that vaccines are just all bad if they would prefer we still had things like small pox? Would you rather we had more prevelant cases of the bubonic plague? Is that better than the off chance that you MIGHT have some reaction to the vaccine?

I can understand people doing delayed vaccinations. I wonder, however, what the education level of people who swear vaccines are pointless is? 

Now don't get me wrong, I believe science is taking us TOO far, we're not letting these viruses and diseases keep our population under control. So if we bring them back into prevelance due to a lack of diligence I don't necessarily view that as a bad thing. 


Posted by Anonymous on Jul. 31, 2013 at 11:55 PM
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angevil53
by on Jul. 31, 2013 at 11:56 PM
They will tell things like it was on the decline before vaxes and vaxes suck etc etc. Don't worry about them. Just do what you think is best.
Anonymous
by Anonymous 2 on Jul. 31, 2013 at 11:57 PM
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Have you looked at the ingredient lists of each vaccines?
Anonymous
by Anonymous 1 - Original Poster on Jul. 31, 2013 at 11:59 PM

Yes. Do you understand what all of it means though? And where it was derived from and WHY it's in there?


Quoting Anonymous:

Have you looked at the ingredient lists of each vaccines?



Anonymous
by Anonymous 1 - Original Poster on Aug. 1, 2013 at 12:00 AM

I'm not worried. I just find it interesting. I somewhat understand....but then at the same time....I don't. KWIM?


Quoting angevil53:

They will tell things like it was on the decline before vaxes and vaxes suck etc etc. Don't worry about them. Just do what you think is best.



SuN-K1ss3d
by on Aug. 1, 2013 at 12:01 AM
I do. I was just asking if you knew what was in them.


Quoting Anonymous:

Yes. Do you understand what all of it means though? And where it was derived from and WHY it's in there?



Quoting Anonymous:

Have you looked at the ingredient lists of each vaccines?





Anonymous
by Anonymous 3 on Aug. 1, 2013 at 12:03 AM
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Lol there isn't a vaccine for the plague.. But we also aren't in the dark ages. The vaccines arent a 100% guarantee and in most cases there is as much of a Risk of getting the disease with the vaccine as there is without it because the risk is so minimal in the first place
Anonymous
by Anonymous 4 on Aug. 1, 2013 at 12:07 AM
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DISCOVERY OF AN ATYPICAL VIRUS INFECTING HUMANS LINKED TO VIRAL VACCINES PRODUCED ON MONKEY TISSUES 

In what could be one of the most important scientific discoveries of this decade, an award winning pathologist and immunologist at the University of Southern California, W. John Martin, M.D., Ph.D., has discovered an atypical virus infecting both children and adults who are exhibiting neurological, psychiatric and autoimmune disorder symptoms with diagnoses including chronic fatigue syndrome, fibromyalgia, depression, schizophrenia, anxiety disorder, seizures, developmental delays, autism, lupus, multiple sclerosis, Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, unexplained encephalopathy and chronic vegetative states. Martin and his colleagues at USC's Infectious Diseases and Molecular Pathology Laboratories have been meticulously culturing out stealth viruses from patients for the past eight years and, in a stunning development earlier this year, successfully identified one of the viruses as being of African green monkey origin by using DNA sequence analysis. Kidney tissues from African green monkeys have been used to make the live oral polio vaccine (OPV) as well as other viral vaccines during the past three decades.

YOU CAN BE INFECTED AND NOT BE SICK 

A distinctive feature of the virus Martin and his colleagues has characterized is that it belongs to a novel class of atypical cytopathic viruses (capable of causing pathologic changes in cells), which they refer to as "stealth viruses" because they have the ability to evade detection by the body's cellular defense mechanisms and appear to lack the antigens which normally cause an inflammation typical of most infections that damage cells and body tissues. The monkey-related stealth virus they are studying is a cytomegalovirus belonging to the herpes virus family that causes an atypical viral infection of the brain - a "stealth virus encephalopathy" - that can produce a spectrum of disease symptoms without evoking an inflammatory response. Therefore, a person can also become infected and can carry and transmit the virus to others without exhibiting symptoms. The stealth virus can remain dormant in an infected but symptomless individual throughout life. However, in some infected individuals the virus can become active, triggered perhaps by significant mental or physical stress, and go on to cause atypical responses to normal sensory input into the brain resulting in sudden, unexplained neurological symptoms. It is thought that a stealth virus can be transmitted, like HIV, hepatitis B or polio, by coming into direct contact with the virus (such as ingesting or being injected with a contaminated vaccine) or coming into contact with the blood or body fluids of an infected individual

CHRONIC FATIGUE SYNDROME, DEPRESSION, ENCEPHALOPATHY 

In an August 1994 article published in American Journal of Pathologv. Dr. Martin and his colleagues describe how over a three year period they repeatedly cultured out an atypical cytopathic virus from a 43-year old woman who became suddenly ill in 1990 with a sore throat, muscle aches, intense headaches, fever and eventually was hospitalized with suspected encephalitis/meningitis - although all tests came back negative. She continued to feel ill and eventually was diagnosed with chronic fatigue syndrome accompanied by severe headaches, insomnia, memory loss and brain dysfunction. In that same article, Martin et al confirm that they also cultured out the same atypical virus from a patient with severe encephalopathy who had a four year history of manic depression.

UNSTABLE VIRUS MUTATES EASILY 

... "The animal stealth virus we have identified has an unstable genome and it mutates easily. It doesn't grow very well in culture and so it can be easily overlooked during testing. Of concern is the fact that, when you introduce unstable animal stealth viruses into man, there is a risk of recombinant (the formation of new combinations of linked genes) events occurring which can produce new kinds of diseases. Now that we have the technology, it is very important to act immediately to screen viral vaccines for stealth viruses, to determine who is already infected and to develop therapies to interrupt activation as well as treat those who already have symptoms."

UNEXPLAINED SEIZURES, DEVELOPMENTAL DELAYS, MS, LUPUS, SCHIZOPHRENIA 

... Martin describes several more patients who tested positive for stealth virus infection such as the woman who had been diagnosed by various doctors as having multiple sclerosis, lupus and cerebral pseudotumor and a woman who was diagnosed as schizophrenic at age 19, then manic depressive with delusions. Four years later she experienced a near-fatal encephalopathy with cardiac arrest and has remained in a vegetative state for five years. In one family being studied by Martin and his colleagues, four family members have tested positive for stealth virus infection including a husband and wife diagnosed with chronic fatigue syndrome, the wife's mother diagnosed with atypical Parkinson's disease and a son diagnosed with schizophrenia. All of these patients are now being diagnosed as suffering from stealth virus encephalopathy....

DNA SEQUENCING OF VIRUS LEADS TO MONKEY ORIGINS 

In an article published in the July 1995 issue of Clinical and Diagnostic Virology, Martin and his colleagues describe how they conducted DNA and amino acid sequence comparisons showing that the stealth virus isolated from a patient with chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) was "more closely related to the Colburn strain of simian cytomegalovirus than to cytomegalovirus of either human or rhesus monkey origin or to any other sequenced herpes virus." These comparisons were confirmed using polymerase chain reaction (PCR). The scientists concluded that "the findings implicate the African green monkey as the probable source of the virus isolated from this CFS patient." They go on to suggest that "the potential introduction of pathogenic viral variants into humans through the use of African green monkey-derived cell lines in live virus vaccine production should be evaluated."

ANlMALS GET SICK TOO

 Martin and his colleagues have performed more than 1,000 cultures in their eight-year study of the stealth virus and have found that not only is there a clustering of culture positive findings in members of the same families, but that there is also a pattern of unexplained neurological illnesses in the pet dogs and cats of patients diagnosed with chronic fatigue syndrome, indicating that the stealth virus may also be capable of infecting and being carried by animals....

THE MONEY HAS RUN OUT 

... The Lab has been forced to drastically cut back on its research linking the proliferation of atypical neurologic, psychiatric and immune system disorders in children and adults to the detection of an atypical cytomegalovirus whose genetic code is almost identical to that of a virus that is commonly present in the kidney tissues of the African green monkey and could have, therefore, been inadvertently transmitted to humans during the production of the oral polio vaccine....

ACT NOW TO SCREEN VACCINES AND BLOOD SUPPLY 

Martin and his colleagues concluded their appeal to the FDA to give them a six-month grant to fund their work with these words: FDA is responsible for the safety of biological products including vaccines and the Nation's blood supply. ... The findings will also have bearing on the possible need to screen blood donors for the presence of stealth viruses."...

Reprinted in Issue No. 87 of the " Leading Edge International Research Journal "

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by Anonymous 1 - Original Poster on Aug. 1, 2013 at 12:08 AM

I didn't say there was a vaccine for the plague, I said that it isn't as prevelant. Of course our hygiene standards have definitely helped our cause, but the study of bacteriology and microbiology and hence the discovery of vaccinations has had much to do with it as well. There is also not generally a 100% guarantee for anything in life, but it's better to jump in the ocean with a life jacket than without. 


Quoting Anonymous:

Lol there isn't a vaccine for the plague.. But we also aren't in the dark ages. The vaccines are a 100% guarantee and in most cases you're there is as much of a Rick of getting the disease with the vaccine as there is without it because theism is so minimal in the first place



Anonymous
by Anonymous 5 on Aug. 1, 2013 at 12:13 AM
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I would rather jump in the ocean without a life jacket, than to jump in the ocean with a life jacket made of lead that was riddled with holes.

Quoting Anonymous:

I didn't say there was a vaccine for the plague, I said that it isn't as prevelant. Of course our hygiene standards have definitely helped our cause, but the study of bacteriology and microbiology and hence the discovery of vaccinations has had much to do with it as well. There is also not generally a 100% guarantee for anything in life, but it's better to jump in the ocean with a life jacket than without. 


Quoting Anonymous:

Lol there isn't a vaccine for the plague.. But we also aren't in the dark ages. The vaccines are a 100% guarantee and in most cases you're there is as much of a Rick of getting the disease with the vaccine as there is without it because theism is so minimal in the first place




Anonymous
by Anonymous 4 on Aug. 1, 2013 at 12:13 AM

we were not apart of the primative hygiene times. where people, who decided, to be unhygienic also decided to socialise, amongst other people, spreading unhygienic illnesses. And as hygiene improved, society may have lied to us, and told us that vaccines are responsible, for preventing smallpox, polio and alot of illnesses. smallpox can be caught in 3rd world countries were hygiene is unsatisfactory.

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