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new carseat regs to start in 2014, but imo shouldnt wait!

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In 2014 new laws will go into place regarding the use of the latch system for carseats. Personally i dont see why they are waiting to impliment this! For those who cant get to the articles, basically you need to weigh your child and carseat. If the combined weight is 65lbs or more you cant use latch and need to use the regular seatbelt. Latch was not designed to hold carseats that could hold kids up to 100lbs plus the weight of the seat. It may not hold the seat if you are in an accident.

http://www.pediatricsafety.net/2012/06/car-seat-latch-rules-to-change-in-2014-please-read-this-today/

http://carseatblog.com/20202/weight-limits-the-death-of-latch/


ETA: you can not use BOTH the latch and a seatbelt. Here is why:
Should I use both the seat belt and the lower anchors to be sure my child is extra protected?
Securing the child safety seat by using either the lower anchors or the seat belt ofers the same level of protection when used correctly and according to both the child safety seat instructions and the vehicle owner’s manual. There is no evidence that the child is aforded additional protection when the lower anchors and the vehicle seat belt are used in conjunction with one another.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CDkQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nhtsa.gov%2FDOT%2FNHTSA%2FTraffic%2520Injury%2520Control%2FArticles%2FAssociated%2520Files%2FLATCH_faq.pdf&ei=7AI_Us6NCYHK9gSy_YCYAw&usg=AFQjCNGxtsgdQB630R7XXM7afTYfQ9R4iw

ETA 2:
Lots of parents want an extra measure of security when it comes to their baby's protection on the road. This leads many parents to install car seats with both a vehicle seat belt and the LATCH system. Using two installation methods is not as safe as it sounds, though.

You should choose the installation method that allows you to get the best fit in your vehicle. The car seat is installed correctly when you can't move it more than an inch in any direction when you grab the car seat at the belt path, and when the car seat is at the proper angle, such as when rear-facing.

Car seats are designed to handle crash forces in specific ways. While we know, thanks to federally mandated crash testing, that baby's car seat will withstand crash forces when installed with the seat belt, or with the LATCH system, we do not know if the same car seat will withstand crash forces when both systems are used at the same time. Putting two installation belts through the same belt path could put stress on the car seat shell from two different angles during a crash, causing breakage. Using two installation belts could also concentrate more crash force on a small area of the car seat.

The rule of thumb to follow with installation is to never use your baby's car seat in a way that was not intended by the manufacturer. When you install the car seat using methods not outlined in the instruction manual, you are, in essence, using your child as the crash test dummy. We cannot be sure of what will happen when car seats are used in ways that have not been crash tested and approved. Read your car seat instructions and your vehicle owner's manual to find out how your car seat can be installed. If you cannot get the car seat installed tightly using either the vehicle seat belt or the LATCH system, find a certified child passenger safety technician or a car seat inspection station by visiting Safe Kids USA.

Heather Corley is a certified Child Passenger Safety Technician.
by on Sep. 20, 2013 at 11:52 PM
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Anonymous
by Anonymous 78 on Nov. 20, 2013 at 12:57 PM

I just throw my kid in the back seat and she's good to go.

BabyTeki
by Bronze Member on Nov. 20, 2013 at 12:57 PM
I've only ever used seat belts
ARACMOM
by on Nov. 20, 2013 at 1:05 PM
I'm pretty sure that's not the law in my state. I know all vehicle manufacturers are different.


Quoting momager2two:

In 2014 new laws will go into place regarding the use of the latch system for carseats. Personally i dont see why they are waiting to impliment this! For those who cant get to the articles, basically you need to weigh your child and carseat. If the combined weight is 65lbs or more you cant use latch and need to use the regular seatbelt. Latch was not designed to hold carseats that could hold kids up to 100lbs plus the weight of the seat. It may not hold the seat if you are in an accident.



http://www.pediatricsafety.net/2012/06/car-seat-latch-rules-to-change-in-2014-please-read-this-today/



http://carseatblog.com/20202/weight-limits-the-death-of-latch/





ETA: you can not use BOTH the latch and a seatbelt. Here is why:

Should I use both the seat belt and the lower anchors to be sure my child is extra protected?

Securing the child safety seat by using either the lower anchors or the seat belt ofers the same level of protection when used correctly and according to both the child safety seat instructions and the vehicle owner’s manual. There is no evidence that the child is aforded additional protection when the lower anchors and the vehicle seat belt are used in conjunction with one another.



http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CDkQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nhtsa.gov%2FDOT%2FNHTSA%2FTraffic%2520Injury%2520Control%2FArticles%2FAssociated%2520Files%2FLATCH_faq.pdf&ei=7AI_Us6NCYHK9gSy_YCYAw&usg=AFQjCNGxtsgdQB630R7XXM7afTYfQ9R4iw



ETA 2:

Lots of parents want an extra measure of security when it comes to their baby's protection on the road. This leads many parents to install car seats with both a vehicle seat belt and the LATCH system. Using two installation methods is not as safe as it sounds, though.



You should choose the installation method that allows you to get the best fit in your vehicle. The car seat is installed correctly when you can't move it more than an inch in any direction when you grab the car seat at the belt path, and when the car seat is at the proper angle, such as when rear-facing.



Car seats are designed to handle crash forces in specific ways. While we know, thanks to federally mandated crash testing, that baby's car seat will withstand crash forces when installed with the seat belt, or with the LATCH system, we do not know if the same car seat will withstand crash forces when both systems are used at the same time. Putting two installation belts through the same belt path could put stress on the car seat shell from two different angles during a crash, causing breakage. Using two installation belts could also concentrate more crash force on a small area of the car seat.



The rule of thumb to follow with installation is to never use your baby's car seat in a way that was not intended by the manufacturer. When you install the car seat using methods not outlined in the instruction manual, you are, in essence, using your child as the crash test dummy. We cannot be sure of what will happen when car seats are used in ways that have not been crash tested and approved. Read your car seat instructions and your vehicle owner's manual to find out how your car seat can be installed. If you cannot get the car seat installed tightly using either the vehicle seat belt or the LATCH system, find a certified child passenger safety technician or a car seat inspection station by visiting Safe Kids USA.



Heather Corley is a certified Child Passenger Safety Technician.

jackiewal10
by Bronze Member on Nov. 24, 2013 at 11:06 PM

Yes, the carseats AND the manuals have instructions.  But those instructions DO NOT include using BOTH the LATCH and the belt at the same time.  Reading comprehension must not be your friend.

Quoting Abbeysunshine:

I don't know where you buy car seats. I have bought 6 car seats in various stages and all of them had instructions on the sides on the car seats and instructions in the owners manual that came with the car seat when I bought them.


Quoting jackiewal10:

On what seat??  NO instructions EVER have said to use both. Because they know it's dangerous.

Quoting Abbeysunshine:

I always used both cause thats what the instructions said to do




KairisMama
by Emerald Member on Nov. 24, 2013 at 11:07 PM

 I've never used the latch. I prefer the seat belts. It's easier to get the seats back out of the car again.

Abbeysunshine
by Member on Dec. 2, 2013 at 2:03 PM
Clearly you can not read and comprehending is certainly not your friend. If I couldn't comprehend what the in the side of all 6 of my children's car seats said and their manuals said then I wouldn't have been using their car seats correctly from the start so clearly since I was using their car seats correctly as per the instructions on the sides of the car seats and in their manuals so the only thing that I can figure about you is that you installed your car seat without reading he instructions on the sides of the car seat or manual. So maybe you should go back to school and learn how to read and comprehend instructions. :)

Quoting jackiewal10:

Yes, the carseats AND the manuals have instructions.  But those instructions DO NOT include using BOTH the LATCH and the belt at the same time.  Reading comprehension must not be your friend.

Quoting Abbeysunshine:

I don't know where you buy car seats. I have bought 6 car seats in various stages and all of them had instructions on the sides on the car seats and instructions in the owners manual that came with the car seat when I bought them.





Quoting jackiewal10:

On what seat??  NO instructions EVER have said to use both. Because they know it's dangerous.

Quoting Abbeysunshine:

I always used both cause thats what the instructions said to do





jackiewal10
by Bronze Member on Dec. 2, 2013 at 2:08 PM

Oy!  You are truly ignorant.  And, you never did answer what seat(s) says to install using both.  Oh!  That's right.  You can't answer that question.  Because THERE IS NOT SEAT THAT WILL TELL YOU TO DO THAT!

Quoting Abbeysunshine: Clearly you can not read and comprehending is certainly not your friend. If I couldn't comprehend what the in the side of all 6 of my children's car seats said and their manuals said then I wouldn't have been using their car seats correctly from the start so clearly since I was using their car seats correctly as per the instructions on the sides of the car seats and in their manuals so the only thing that I can figure about you is that you installed your car seat without reading he instructions on the sides of the car seat or manual. So maybe you should go back to school and learn how to read and comprehend instructions. :)

Quoting jackiewal10:

Yes, the carseats AND the manuals have instructions.  But those instructions DO NOT include using BOTH the LATCH and the belt at the same time.  Reading comprehension must not be your friend.

Quoting Abbeysunshine:

I don't know where you buy car seats. I have bought 6 car seats in various stages and all of them had instructions on the sides on the car seats and instructions in the owners manual that came with the car seat when I bought them.





Quoting jackiewal10:

On what seat??  NO instructions EVER have said to use both. Because they know it's dangerous.

Quoting Abbeysunshine:

I always used both cause thats what the instructions said to do






Anonymous
by Anonymous 79 on Dec. 2, 2013 at 2:10 PM

SIL has the latch up top and then uses the seatbelt behidn the carseat...newphews are 2 and 18 months....when my kids were young i always used the seatbelt only.

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