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# Australian Moms

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So i was watching a documentary on poverty in Australia earlier and i saw no real poverty. People in Australia make more being unemployed on welfare than people in the us make on minimum wage (7.25 an hour) working full time. Note that im judging from info in a documentary and your country's welfare website. And the unemployment rate is lower, and minimum wage is almost 17 an hour ........ How could there be poverty under such great conditions?

Posted by Anonymous on Nov. 23, 2013 at 1:40 AM
Replies (31-40):
by Bronze Member on Nov. 23, 2013 at 2:11 AM

Yeah I get my bread and milk for \$1 at Coles.It might be an average of different supermarkets I guess.

Quoting TG3:

some of that is wrong. I can get a loaf of white bread for 99c at my local IGA and Woolworths do a litre of milk for \$1.

Quoting whovianmum:

EVERYTHING is more expensive.Check this out - http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_countries_result.jsp?country1=United+States&country2=Australia

Quoting Anonymous:

A single mother with 1 child gets only 300 per month here in the us plus about 250 in foodstamps, what else is more expensive, what are the prices of things

Quoting miss-karla:

Im australian. Its cause everything is expensive. For a unemployed single person over 22 u get around 500-600 a fortnite/2 weeks. But rent here can be around 200-400 per week. Centrelink benefits are not enough to live of comfortably but gets u by.

by Gold Member on Nov. 23, 2013 at 2:13 AM

I love Coles homebrand ... I can get a full shop for \$120 a fortnight if I buy homebrand and get the meat on special.

Quoting whovianmum:

Yeah I get my bread and milk for \$1 at Coles.It might be an average of different supermarkets I guess.

Quoting TG3:

some of that is wrong. I can get a loaf of white bread for 99c at my local IGA and Woolworths do a litre of milk for \$1.

Quoting whovianmum:

EVERYTHING is more expensive.Check this out - http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_countries_result.jsp?country1=United+States&country2=Australia

Quoting Anonymous:

A single mother with 1 child gets only 300 per month here in the us plus about 250 in foodstamps, what else is more expensive, what are the prices of things

Quoting miss-karla:

Im australian. Its cause everything is expensive. For a unemployed single person over 22 u get around 500-600 a fortnite/2 weeks. But rent here can be around 200-400 per week. Centrelink benefits are not enough to live of comfortably but gets u by.

by Anonymous 1 - Original Poster on Nov. 23, 2013 at 2:13 AM

Also is it true that guns are illegal there?

Quoting TG3:

I used to work full time in a supermarket and came out with \$600 a week.

Quoting whovianmum:

I'm not sure,it's a pretty broad term.That's why I mentioned what jobs I'm applying for because I don't know what OP or her husband do for a living and what's normal to them lol.

Quoting TG3:

what do you consider a normal job?

Quoting whovianmum:

I'm currently applying for jobs in retail and most of the pay starts at around \$20/hr.Not sure which jobs you mean when you say normal jobs lol

Quoting Anonymous:

Yea, you make more that dh & i combined after taxes and we both work full time, seriously considering getting a visa, what do normal jobs pay there?

Quoting whovianmum:

There really isn't poverty in the same sense that there's poverty in the US.Of course there are families struggling but I've only ever seen 3 homeless people in my entire life.If you can get in department of housing they take 25% of your income which will most likely be government payments if you're living in DOH.I'm currently on a parenting payment,and get almost \$800 a fortnight,my SO is on a disability support payment which pays almost \$700 a fortnight,and we're considered poor,which going by stories I've read on here,we're doing pretty damn well.

by Silver Member on Nov. 23, 2013 at 2:13 AM
Cable u meaning tv?
Our tv is free to air standard channels, so we dont pay for channels unless u get foxtel which u can pay for extra tv channels.
There are package deals for that, but we can download movies or tv shows anyway

Quoting Anonymous:

You pay maybe \$100 in rent more than I do but we pay monthly. And I live in an area where COL is very low.

Internet runs a bit less depending on the company. Do you guys have cable? A lot of times that is packaged with internet and sometimes a home phone.

Electricity can run around \$150-\$200 per month sometimes.

Water bill is only \$30-\$40/ month

Diapers are usually around \$20-\$30 for the box

And fomula is about the same.

We spend about \$300 weekly on groceries for a family of 5 but we shop cheap too and stick to a tight budget. It was easy to spenf \$100-\$200 weekly for a famimy of 3.

Quoting miss-karla:

Umm depends.. wen i go shopping i spend about 100-200 per week.. but thats just for myself, partner and baby.. includes meat, fruit n veg, baby stuff, toiletries, n other stuff i need.

Rent 232 per week

Internet is 75 a month

Home phone about 35 a month

Electricity is about 200-500 per 3 months

Gas is about 100-200 varies per month

Water bill is about 100-150 per 3 mths

Umm but then there are expenses like take out.

Nappies like huggies is like 30 per box of 100. Formula is around 20 per tin.

But in saying that. Some people who are in poverty buy drugs n alcohol before anything else, and thats why they dont have money.

But everyones spending is different, n can make do on 500 for 2 weeks.

Quoting Anonymous:

A single mother with 1 child gets only 300 per month here in the us plus about 250 in foodstamps, what else is more expensive, what are the prices of things

Quoting miss-karla:

Im australian. Its cause everything is expensive. For a unemployed single person over 22 u get around 500-600 a fortnite/2 weeks. But rent here can be around 200-400 per week. Centrelink benefits are not enough to live of comfortably but gets u by.

by Gold Member on Nov. 23, 2013 at 2:15 AM

Yeah I'm currently at university studying to be a paramedic and then my wage will more than double ... its so difficult right now but worth it. DH wants to send me to the mines when I'm qualified so he can live in the lap of luxury. Oh and I know all about debt we've been bankrupt and it sucks.

Quoting Sacha102:

Because due to past mistakes we got ourselves into debt, our fault yes, but lucky for us now fixed. Now he works for our future up there - it works for us. Doesn't make the cost of living any less though.

Quoting TG3:

We're in Perth and neither of us work in the mines (we both work in a call centre) and we manage ok and own our own home. Unless you're in Cott or Dalkeith I don't see why that's your only option.

Quoting Sacha102:

My husband has to work away in the mines for us to be able to afford to live - if he never done that we probably wouldn't have our house. Cost of living in perth (western Australia) is huge!

by Ruby Member on Nov. 23, 2013 at 2:15 AM

Rent largely depends on where you live and what type of house too.

We are just outside of Melbourne in a tourist-y area and own 3 rental properties, one with two dwellings on the block.
2 bedroom brick with large backyard, no dishwasher, no aircon and gas log fireplace,  gets us \$320 per week
3 bedroom weatherboard with no backyard, ducted heating, no aircon, no dishwasher gets us \$360 per week
2 bedroom weatherboard on a shared block with no aircon, gas log fireplace, dishwasher and honestly is falling apart gets us \$310 per week, the studio bunglow at the back with no heat, no aircon, no dishwasher gets us \$260 per week.

All of our places charge below market value.

Quoting Anonymous:

You pay maybe \$100 in rent more than I do but we pay monthly. And I live in an area where COL is very low.
Internet runs a bit less depending on the company. Do you guys have cable? A lot of times that is packaged with internet and sometimes a home phone.
Electricity can run around \$150-\$200 per month sometimes.
Water bill is only \$30-\$40/ month

Diapers are usually around \$20-\$30 for the box
And fomula is about the same.

We spend about \$300 weekly on groceries for a family of 5 but we shop cheap too and stick to a tight budget. It was easy to spenf \$100-\$200 weekly for a famimy of 3.

Quoting miss-karla:

Umm depends.. wen i go shopping i spend about 100-200 per week.. but thats just for myself, partner and baby.. includes meat, fruit n veg, baby stuff, toiletries, n other stuff i need.

Rent 232 per week

Internet is 75 a month

Home phone about 35 a month

Electricity is about 200-500 per 3 months

Gas is about 100-200 varies per month

Water bill is about 100-150 per 3 mths

Umm but then there are expenses like take out.

Nappies like huggies is like 30 per box of 100. Formula is around 20 per tin.

But in saying that. Some people who are in poverty buy drugs n alcohol before anything else, and thats why they dont have money.

But everyones spending is different, n can make do on 500 for 2 weeks.

Quoting Anonymous:

A single mother with 1 child gets only 300 per month here in the us plus about 250 in foodstamps, what else is more expensive, what are the prices of things

Quoting miss-karla:

Im australian. Its cause everything is expensive. For a unemployed single person over 22 u get around 500-600 a fortnite/2 weeks. But rent here can be around 200-400 per week. Centrelink benefits are not enough to live of comfortably but gets u by.

by Gold Member on Nov. 23, 2013 at 2:16 AM

foxtel is so expensive the company  work for does IPTV which is \$19 a month for similar channels to foxtel.

Quoting miss-karla:

Cable u meaning tv?
Our tv is free to air standard channels, so we dont pay for channels unless u get foxtel which u can pay for extra tv channels.
There are package deals for that, but we can download movies or tv shows anyway

Quoting Anonymous:

You pay maybe \$100 in rent more than I do but we pay monthly. And I live in an area where COL is very low.

Internet runs a bit less depending on the company. Do you guys have cable? A lot of times that is packaged with internet and sometimes a home phone.

Electricity can run around \$150-\$200 per month sometimes.

Water bill is only \$30-\$40/ month

Diapers are usually around \$20-\$30 for the box

And fomula is about the same.

We spend about \$300 weekly on groceries for a family of 5 but we shop cheap too and stick to a tight budget. It was easy to spenf \$100-\$200 weekly for a famimy of 3.

Quoting miss-karla:

Umm depends.. wen i go shopping i spend about 100-200 per week.. but thats just for myself, partner and baby.. includes meat, fruit n veg, baby stuff, toiletries, n other stuff i need.

Rent 232 per week

Internet is 75 a month

Home phone about 35 a month

Electricity is about 200-500 per 3 months

Gas is about 100-200 varies per month

Water bill is about 100-150 per 3 mths

Umm but then there are expenses like take out.

Nappies like huggies is like 30 per box of 100. Formula is around 20 per tin.

But in saying that. Some people who are in poverty buy drugs n alcohol before anything else, and thats why they dont have money.

But everyones spending is different, n can make do on 500 for 2 weeks.

Quoting Anonymous:

A single mother with 1 child gets only 300 per month here in the us plus about 250 in foodstamps, what else is more expensive, what are the prices of things

Quoting miss-karla:

Im australian. Its cause everything is expensive. For a unemployed single person over 22 u get around 500-600 a fortnite/2 weeks. But rent here can be around 200-400 per week. Centrelink benefits are not enough to live of comfortably but gets u by.

by Silver Member on Nov. 23, 2013 at 2:17 AM
Im classed as low income im eligble for medicare and health care card. Cheaper medicine prescriptions and bulk billed free normal doctors appts. If u have a baby its free, most medical expenses are covered under medicare.
U can buy insurance but idk the prices.
I also dont drive so idk about car expenses

Quoting Anonymous:

That sounds pretty good to me aside from the high rent, do you pay for insurance? health, dental, vision, vehicle etc? if so what are the costs?

Quoting miss-karla:

Umm depends.. wen i go shopping i spend about 100-200 per week.. but thats just for myself, partner and baby.. includes meat, fruit n veg, baby stuff, toiletries, n other stuff i need.

Rent 232 per week

Internet is 75 a month

Home phone about 35 a month

Electricity is about 200-500 per 3 months

Gas is about 100-200 varies per month

Water bill is about 100-150 per 3 mths

Umm but then there are expenses like take out.

Nappies like huggies is like 30 per box of 100. Formula is around 20 per tin.

But in saying that. Some people who are in poverty buy drugs n alcohol before anything else, and thats why they dont have money.

But everyones spending is different, n can make do on 500 for 2 weeks.

Quoting Anonymous:

A single mother with 1 child gets only 300 per month here in the us plus about 250 in foodstamps, what else is more expensive, what are the prices of things

Quoting miss-karla:

Im australian. Its cause everything is expensive. For a unemployed single person over 22 u get around 500-600 a fortnite/2 weeks. But rent here can be around 200-400 per week. Centrelink benefits are not enough to live of comfortably but gets u by.

by Anonymous 3 on Nov. 23, 2013 at 2:17 AM
Yes. I meant TV. Sorry. Here, without some sort of service, you can MAYBE get 1 or 2 channels. You can always use netflix or hulu to download shows and movies but to watch things like the news or shows when they come on, you have to have some kind of tv service. There are several different types of package, starting with just the basic local channels and adding from there.

Quoting miss-karla:

Cable u meaning tv?

Our tv is free to air standard channels, so we dont pay for channels unless u get foxtel which u can pay for extra tv channels.

There are package deals for that, but we can download movies or tv shows anyway

Quoting Anonymous:

You pay maybe \$100 in rent more than I do but we pay monthly. And I live in an area where COL is very low.

Internet runs a bit less depending on the company. Do you guys have cable? A lot of times that is packaged with internet and sometimes a home phone.

Electricity can run around \$150-\$200 per month sometimes.

Water bill is only \$30-\$40/ month

Diapers are usually around \$20-\$30 for the box

And fomula is about the same.

We spend about \$300 weekly on groceries for a family of 5 but we shop cheap too and stick to a tight budget. It was easy to spenf \$100-\$200 weekly for a famimy of 3.

Quoting miss-karla:

Umm depends.. wen i go shopping i spend about 100-200 per week.. but thats just for myself, partner and baby.. includes meat, fruit n veg, baby stuff, toiletries, n other stuff i need.

Rent 232 per week

Internet is 75 a month

Home phone about 35 a month

Electricity is about 200-500 per 3 months

Gas is about 100-200 varies per month

Water bill is about 100-150 per 3 mths

Umm but then there are expenses like take out.

Nappies like huggies is like 30 per box of 100. Formula is around 20 per tin.

But in saying that. Some people who are in poverty buy drugs n alcohol before anything else, and thats why they dont have money.

But everyones spending is different, n can make do on 500 for 2 weeks.

Quoting Anonymous:

A single mother with 1 child gets only 300 per month here in the us plus about 250 in foodstamps, what else is more expensive, what are the prices of things

Quoting miss-karla:

Im australian. Its cause everything is expensive. For a unemployed single person over 22 u get around 500-600 a fortnite/2 weeks. But rent here can be around 200-400 per week. Centrelink benefits are not enough to live of comfortably but gets u by.

by Gold Member on Nov. 23, 2013 at 2:18 AM
they're not illegal but you have to have a special permit to have one.
Quoting Anonymous:

Also is it true that guns are illegal there?

Quoting TG3:

I used to work full time in a supermarket and came out with \$600 a week.

Quoting whovianmum:

I'm not sure,it's a pretty broad term.That's why I mentioned what jobs I'm applying for because I don't know what OP or her husband do for a living and what's normal to them lol.

Quoting TG3:

what do you consider a normal job?

Quoting whovianmum:

I'm currently applying for jobs in retail and most of the pay starts at around \$20/hr.Not sure which jobs you mean when you say normal jobs lol

Quoting Anonymous:

Yea, you make more that dh & i combined after taxes and we both work full time, seriously considering getting a visa, what do normal jobs pay there?

Quoting whovianmum:

There really isn't poverty in the same sense that there's poverty in the US.Of course there are families struggling but I've only ever seen 3 homeless people in my entire life.If you can get in department of housing they take 25% of your income which will most likely be government payments if you're living in DOH.I'm currently on a parenting payment,and get almost \$800 a fortnight,my SO is on a disability support payment which pays almost \$700 a fortnight,and we're considered poor,which going by stories I've read on here,we're doing pretty damn well.