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I am so sick of the freeloaders mooching off our tax money!

Posted by on Jun. 3, 2014 at 11:28 AM
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thetrollcat
by Meow on Jun. 3, 2014 at 11:28 AM
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And every damn year we vote those assholes IN

LilyRuiz213
by Bronze Member on Jun. 3, 2014 at 11:31 AM
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I'm enclinded to agree, I wish the money we worked for was OUR own. Our money pays for just about everything in this economy. The welfare system, the prison system, it really is a shame. I live in an apartment building where quite a few people are on welfare. Some of them live better then I do, and I work 2 jobs. It's extremely upsetting that my and other tax payers money is giving to free loaders who sit on their a** all day. 

thetrollcat
by Meow on Jun. 3, 2014 at 11:31 AM

I know they hardly do a damn thing productive and yet they get more than we do and we work our asses off. Plus they are all liars!

Quoting LilyRuiz213:

I'm enclinded to agree, I wish the money we worked for was OUR own. Our money pays for just about everything in this economy. The welfare system, the prison system, it really is a shame. I live in an apartment building where quite a few people are on welfare. Some of them live better then I do, and I work 2 jobs. It's extremely upsetting that my and other tax payers money is giving to free loaders who sit on their a** all day. 


Anonymous
by Anonymous on Jun. 3, 2014 at 11:31 AM
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Lol, you made me laugh: )
tanyainmizzou
by Gold Member on Jun. 3, 2014 at 11:32 AM

They do not have an enormous pension unless they are in Congress for multiple decades.


And Congress pays into SS as well.   So the other guy is paid on what he paid in.  Guess he didn't have a well paying job his whole life.

thetrollcat
by Meow on Jun. 3, 2014 at 11:32 AM
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where is your proof?

Politicians get ten times more than the average workers

Quoting tanyainmizzou:

They do not have an enormous pension unless they are in Congress for multiple decades


Anonymous
by Anonymous on Jun. 3, 2014 at 11:33 AM
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I'm sick of the corporate welfare.  It's disgusting.

thetrollcat
by Meow on Jun. 3, 2014 at 11:33 AM

I hate that too

Quoting Anonymous:

I'm sick of the corporate welfare.  It's disgusting.


LilyRuiz213
by Bronze Member on Jun. 3, 2014 at 11:33 AM

I know 2 people personally that went on welfare after losing their jobs, so those kind of people I sympathize with. They got help from the welfare in getting a work training to get a job, so I know they weren't just moochers, just people down on their luck, however I also know too many people who don't have any intention of getting a job, they just continuously have children and get high all day :/ really upsetting.

Quoting thetrollcat:

I know they hardly do a damn thing productive and yet they get more than we do and we work our asses off. Plus they are all liars!

Quoting LilyRuiz213:

I'm enclinded to agree, I wish the money we worked for was OUR own. Our money pays for just about everything in this economy. The welfare system, the prison system, it really is a shame. I live in an apartment building where quite a few people are on welfare. Some of them live better then I do, and I work 2 jobs. It's extremely upsetting that my and other tax payers money is giving to free loaders who sit on their a** all day. 


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tanyainmizzou
by Gold Member on Jun. 3, 2014 at 11:34 AM
Origins:   This piece about Congressional pensions and Social Security contributions has been circulating in various forms since at least April 2000. Virtually all of it is outdated, inaccurate, or misleading:
  • It is not true that Congressmen do not pay into the Social Security fund. Since 1984 they have been required to pay into Social Security just as most everyone else does. (A few odd exceptions to the Social Security program still exist, both inside and outside of government, but not for members of Congress.)
  • It was true prior to 1984 that Congressmen did not pay into the Social Security fund because they participated in a separate program for civil servants (the Civil Service Retirement System, or CSRS), but that program was closed to government employees hired after 1983:
    In 1983, Public Law 98-21 required Social Security coverage for federal civilian employees first hired after 1983 and closed the Civil Service Retirement System (CSRS) to new federal employees and Members of Congress. All incumbent Members of Congress were required to be covered by Social Security, regardless of when they entered Congress. Members who had participated in CSRS before 1984 could elect to stay in that plan in addition to being covered by Social Security or elect coverage under an 'offset plan' that integrates CSRS and Social Security. Under the CSRS Offset Plan, an individual's contributions to CSRS and their pension benefits from that plan are reduced ('offset') by the amount of their contributions to, and benefits from, Social Security.
  • It is not true that Congressmen "continue to draw their same pay, until they die." The size of their pensions is determined by a number of factors (primarily length of service, but also factors such as when they joined Congress, their age at retirement, their salary, and the pension options they chose when they enrolled in the retirement system) and by law cannot exceed 80% of their salary at the time of their retirement.
  • It is not true that Congressmen "paid nothing in on any kind of retirement," and that their pension money "comes right out of the General Fund." Whether members of Congress participate in the older Civil Service Retirement System or the newer Federal Employees' Retirement System (FERS), their pensions are funded through a combination of general tax provisions and contributions from the participants. Members of Congress in the FERS plan must pay 6.2% of their salaries (up to the Social Security wage base of $106,800) into Social Security, as well as 1.3% of their full salary into the Civil Service Retirement and Disability Fund.
It is true that, if current pension levels and cost-of-living adjustments (COLA) for Congress members continue to apply in the future, some former members of Congress could conceivably collect millions of dollars in annuities over the course of their lifetimes. However, the huge dollar amounts bandied about in e-mails

like the ones quoted above are based upon extreme cases: those of politicians who entered Congress at relatively early ages, served for several decades, and retired while still young enough to potentially live for another several decades. These cases are the rare exceptions, based upon the hypothetical assumption that a few long-serving members of Congress who retired while in their mid-50s would live well past the age of 80. (Even the person who collects a modest salary/pension of $40,000 per year stands to take in a million dollars over the course of 25 years.)

As of 2007, the average annuities for retired members of Congress were $63,696 for those who retired under CSRS and $36,732 for those who retired under FERS. Those figures are quite good (about "2-3 times more generous than what a similarly-salaried executive could expect to receive upon retiring from the private sector," according to the National Taxpayers Union), but not quite the lavish endowments these e-mails make them out to be.

Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/socialsecurity/pensions.asp#zi27BKOH6OOrxTA7.99
Quoting thetrollcat:

where is your proof?

Politicians get ten times more than the average workers

Quoting tanyainmizzou:

They do not have an enormous pension unless they are in Congress for multiple decades


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