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Cutting food stamps for "free loading" soldiers.

Posted by on Jun. 7, 2014 at 4:18 PM
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Why Massive Cuts in Benefits Will Not Solve the Problem of Abuse

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With the smell of money and mid-term elections in the air, cuts in food stamp programs and the problems that the few so-called freeloaders cause is sure to be a recurring issue. But one section of Americans that seem to always be put in the background regarding this issue our the members of the U.S. Armed Forces that serve their country, and their families. According to militarytimes.com,

β€œIn fiscal 2013, commissary patrons redeemed $103.6 million worth of Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program benefits, formerly known as food stamps.”


While this number is up five percent over fiscal 2012, it will only continue to rise with our veterans coming home from the long drawn out Iraq war and our presence in Afghanistan. Also, with many of these veterans returning home with a variety of injuries that may prevent them from finding and sustaining gainful employment, many of these benefits will literally be life savers for these brave men and women.

With the food stamp program (SNAP) supplying 14 percent of American families with food aid (nearly one in six), military families utilized roughly $100 million in food aid on military bases alone in 2013. This does not include off base purchases. Also, according to SNAP and Census data, nearly 60 percent of SNAP recipients are working and include the elderly and children.

Now no one likes the thought of an able-bodied individual abusing a system designed to help those that truly need it, especially when it comes from our hard-earned tax dollars, but massive cuts in these programs will not solve the problem. In fact, it will hurt those that need them most.


 
While the powers that be argue that they will not pay for freeloaders to abuse such programs and seek to massively cut funding, perhaps they should look at how changes in the workings of said programs could be improved.

You see, lawmakers put forth the budget for these programs. Federal agencies oversee distribution of these funds to the respective states. The states distribute the funds and rules of eligibility to local county agencies. And lastly, these local agencies oversee the eligibility and distribution of said benefits to individuals.

Now when you look at the numbers in regards to percentage of fraud (which stands at less than one percent), if this system was to only cater to veterans, working individuals, children, the elderly, and the disabled, it begs the question: how would massive cuts to the SNAP program solve what seems to be a fear driven, mostly made up crisis?

If all of the politicians vying for our votes want to balance the budget and get rid of unnecessary wasteful spending, how about starting with corporate welfare and the disgraceful waste produced by our own Congress. Massive cuts to smaller programs such as SNAP (food stamps)  will not solve the immediate financial problems that this country faces. It will only serve to make life harder on the same Americans that they will promise to help in return for their vote.


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by Anonymous 1 on Jun. 7, 2014 at 4:21 PM
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This is too long to read, but here's a bump.

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by Anonymous 2 on Jun. 7, 2014 at 4:35 PM
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I think there should be a time limit for able bodied people who aren't working. I understand there are those who are disabled and can not work. That is the only acceptable reason to be getting fs while not working UNLESS you are having to provide 24/7 care for someone who is physically dependent on round the clock care. If you are just sitting home because you don't want to work, can't find a job you LIKE, or can't "afford daycare" then you're excuses are ridiculous. If you qualify for fs you qualify for a child care assistance program.

Many people who work hard still need food stamps, but not $1000 a month like many women who just sit home collecting benefits. If they limited it to one year of food stamps if you're not working, many more people would have jobs. There's jobs out there, just not jobs lazy people want to do.
mistressflora
by Gold Member on Jun. 7, 2014 at 4:39 PM
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i would love to know who gets 1000 a month! if no one in my house is working its 700 dollars.  How about the ones who legit can not find work? like anything?  and some areas have no daycare funding, i just moved out of an area that didnt actually. This is food we are talking about not cash assitance. if someone is trying then thats all that should matter. Here if one person is working full time then tehre are no requirements as far as the other adult getting a job, working full time. (here you have o volunteer 40 hours a week and do 10 hours worth of job searches you also need to accept a full time job, part time is no good in my states eyes). Im def not trying to argue but its not as easy as some think

Quoting Anonymous: I think there should be a time limit for able bodied people who aren't working. I understand there are those who are disabled and can not work. That is the only acceptable reason to be getting fs while not working UNLESS you are having to provide 24/7 care for someone who is physically dependent on round the clock care. If you are just sitting home because you don't want to work, can't find a job you LIKE, or can't "afford daycare" then you're excuses are ridiculous. If you qualify for fs you qualify for a child care assistance program. Many people who work hard still need food stamps, but not $1000 a month like many women who just sit home collecting benefits. If they limited it to one year of food stamps if you're not working, many more people would have jobs. There's jobs out there, just not jobs lazy people want to do.


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by Anonymous 3 on Jun. 7, 2014 at 4:40 PM
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If you can buy cigarettes you can buy food. Where I live a pack of cigarettes is over $11. I know people who spend over $100 per carton and they buy 3-5 cartons a month and they get PA....they shouldn't if they can spend $400-$500 per month on cigarettes! I have one friend, she and her husband each go through a carton a week and get PA. That shouldn't even be allowed.

mistressflora
by Gold Member on Jun. 7, 2014 at 4:43 PM

you cant really stop someone from buying that unless they are doing off PA and they make that limited but they dont! but idk i use to get food stamps but i have never smoked in my life and i stopped drinking way before i recieved them 

Quoting Anonymous:

If you can buy cigarettes you can buy food. Where I live a pack of cigarettes is over $11. I know people who spend over $100 per carton and they buy 3-5 cartons a month and they get PA....they shouldn't if they can spend $400-$500 per month on cigarettes! I have one friend, she and her husband each go through a carton a week and get PA. That shouldn't even be allowed.


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by Anonymous 2 on Jun. 7, 2014 at 4:49 PM
What agency would say a part time job is no good? That's crazy. Even here in this tiny town there's jobs. They suck an pay minimum wage with no benefits but it's a job. I understand there are a few circumstances where people truly can't find a job (including doing in home child care) but mostly it's excuses. And there are people who get over $1000 a month in fs depending on what state you live in. There are states that don't require either parent to work. That's lazy if an able bodied person would rather sit home and collect food stamps than to go out and get a job. That's all I'm saying. If a person can work, and there are jobs available, why should they get the choice to have someone else pay their way because they don't want to work THAT job. Know what I mean?

Quoting mistressflora:

i would love to know who gets 1000 a month! if no one in my house is working its 700 dollars.  How about the ones who legit can not find work? like anything?  and some areas have no daycare funding, i just moved out of an area that didnt actually. This is food we are talking about not cash assitance. if someone is trying then thats all that should matter. Here if one person is working full time then tehre are no requirements as far as the other adult getting a job, working full time. (here you have o volunteer 40 hours a week and do 10 hours worth of job searches you also need to accept a full time job, part time is no good in my states eyes). Im def not trying to argue but its not as easy as some think

Quoting Anonymous: I think there should be a time limit for able bodied people who aren't working. I understand there are those who are disabled and can not work. That is the only acceptable reason to be getting fs while not working UNLESS you are having to provide 24/7 care for someone who is physically dependent on round the clock care. If you are just sitting home because you don't want to work, can't find a job you LIKE, or can't "afford daycare" then you're excuses are ridiculous. If you qualify for fs you qualify for a child care assistance program.

Many people who work hard still need food stamps, but not $1000 a month like many women who just sit home collecting benefits. If they limited it to one year of food stamps if you're not working, many more people would have jobs. There's jobs out there, just not jobs lazy people want to do.

Anonymous
by Anonymous 4 on Jun. 7, 2014 at 4:55 PM
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I've worked 2 jobs and still qualified for close to 400 a month with me and my 2 children. Sometimes the answer isn't always to go find a job....
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by Platinum Member on Jun. 7, 2014 at 5:01 PM
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I think the entire food stamp program needs to be extinguished. Its such a waste of money and pointless when you break it down. The money used for this wasteful system would be better spent on free community colleges and universal health care.

As for soldiers. While enlisted the govt should be responsible for 100% of their basic needs (food, housing, clothing allowance) AND pay them a salary based on their skill and contributions.
mistressflora
by Gold Member on Jun. 7, 2014 at 6:11 PM
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before you down food stamps, maybe learn how to spell! smh letting people starve is uncalled for

Quoting Miranda1127: I think the entire food stamp program needs to be extinguished. Its such a waist if money and pointless when you break it down. The money used for this wasteful system would he better spent on free community colleges and universal health care. As for soldiers. While enlisted the govt should be responsible for 100% of their basic needs (food, housing, clothing allowance) AND pay them a salary based on their skill and contributions.


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by Gold Member on Jun. 7, 2014 at 6:15 PM
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you say like you know, thje place i use to live had NOTHING if you wanted a job you had to drive at least an hour. and if you dont have a car well then you are shit out of luck bc i couldnt afford a car.  I know how baD IT WAS but i also made the decision to move to the city so I didnt have to deal with that.   Yes thats exactly what they said unles the job was giving you 35 or more hours it wasnt really counted and you still had to voluneteer, work that job and do the job searchers, maybe you can get an hour with your kids if you didnt sleep.  Its not about state its about how many dependants they have, I live in one of the most highest cost of living states and I never see that.  Well those states are those states, I only know what goes on in mine, and my state is considered a democratic state.  Well that "if there are jobs available" is key.  If there are jobs and someone is legit looking and just having a hard time getting hired, thats not entirely their fault

Quoting Anonymous: What agency would say a part time job is no good? That's crazy. Even here in this tiny town there's jobs. They suck an pay minimum wage with no benefits but it's a job. I understand there are a few circumstances where people truly can't find a job (including doing in home child care) but mostly it's excuses. And there are people who get over $1000 a month in fs depending on what state you live in. There are states that don't require either parent to work. That's lazy if an able bodied person would rather sit home and collect food stamps than to go out and get a job. That's all I'm saying. If a person can work, and there are jobs available, why should they get the choice to have someone else pay their way because they don't want to work THAT job. Know what I mean?
Quoting mistressflora:

i would love to know who gets 1000 a month! if no one in my house is working its 700 dollars.  How about the ones who legit can not find work? like anything?  and some areas have no daycare funding, i just moved out of an area that didnt actually. This is food we are talking about not cash assitance. if someone is trying then thats all that should matter. Here if one person is working full time then tehre are no requirements as far as the other adult getting a job, working full time. (here you have o volunteer 40 hours a week and do 10 hours worth of job searches you also need to accept a full time job, part time is no good in my states eyes). Im def not trying to argue but its not as easy as some think

Quoting Anonymous: I think there should be a time limit for able bodied people who aren't working. I understand there are those who are disabled and can not work. That is the only acceptable reason to be getting fs while not working UNLESS you are having to provide 24/7 care for someone who is physically dependent on round the clock care. If you are just sitting home because you don't want to work, can't find a job you LIKE, or can't "afford daycare" then you're excuses are ridiculous. If you qualify for fs you qualify for a child care assistance program. Many people who work hard still need food stamps, but not $1000 a month like many women who just sit home collecting benefits. If they limited it to one year of food stamps if you're not working, many more people would have jobs. There's jobs out there, just not jobs lazy people want to do.



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