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they caught the familys killer!

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http://fox8.com/2014/11/07/man-arrested-in-cold-and-callous-murders-of-family-of-four/

(CNN) — Almost a year to the day after an off-road motorcyclist found the remains of a California family who had vanished from their home in 2010, authorities announced Friday they had arrested the man they believe is responsible for the deaths.

Charles “Chase” Merritt is charged with four counts of murder in the deaths of Joseph and Summer McStay and their two small boys, San Bernardino County, California, District Attorney Michael Ramos told reporters at a news conference.

Merritt, 57, was arrested Wednesday without incident in Chatsworth, California, Detective Chris Fisher said.

Arrest in McStay Family Murders
Charles “Chase” Merritt, a “business associate” of Joseph McStay on Nov. 6, 2014. He was booked at the West Valley Detention Center. Joseph McStay, his wife Summer and their two children were found dead in shallow graves a year ago after mysteriously disappearing from their house in 2010. ( Photo courtesy: San Bernardino Sheriff’s Dept. via CNN )
Police say they believe the family died of “blunt force trauma” inside their home north of San Diego, but they declined to discuss specifics of the deaths or a motive.

Merritt, who was a business partner of Joseph McStay’s, was scheduled to be arraigned Friday afternoon, Ramos said.

In an earlier interview with CNN, Merritt said he received a phone call from Joseph McStay the night they disappeared, but didn’t answer it because he was busy and tired.

“There are hundreds of scenarios,” he told CNN at the time. “I have gone over all of them in my head. Of course I regret not picking up the phone.”

On Friday, McStay’s brother, Michael McStay, choked back tears in thanking investigators for their work on the case.

“You have no idea what this means,” he said.

Police who searched their home days after the family disappeared found eggs on the kitchen counter and bowls of popcorn in the living room, along with the family’s two dogs. There were no signs of a struggle.

Despite finding the family’s SUV in San Ysidro, California — where it had been towed from the Mexican border — and video surveillance that showed a family matching the description of the McStays crossing the border, authorities had no clue what happened to them until the discovery of their bodies on November 11, 2013.

A motorcyclist passing through the area found the remains in two shallow graves not far from Interstate 15 in San Bernardino County, more than 100 miles from the family’s home north of San Diego.

Authorities identified the remains using dental records. At the time, San Bernardino County Sheriff John McMahon said the killings appeared to be “extremely orchestrated” and carried out by more than one person.

But after reviewing 4,500 pages of investigative records, executing 60 search warrants and conducting 200 interviews, investigators zeroed in on Merritt, concluding he had acted alone in killing the family in their own home, San Bernardino authorities said.

He declined to say what specifically led them to that conclusion.

Fisher did, however, say there was no evidence the family had traveled to Mexico after their disappearance, calling the border video “unrelated” to the case.

“We don’t think it’s them,” he said.

Ramos said he has not yet decided whether he will seek the death penalty in what he called a “cold and callous murder of an entire family.”

Joseph McStay’s mother credited investigators for their strength and determination to solve the case.

“I need justice from the law and the courts and to get to talk to the judge,” she said. “And most of all, justice upstairs for my lovely family.”


I heard this story on one of those shows. I cant remember the name of it. But i am glad that they found the familys killer and got justice like they wanted for them.

Posted by Anonymous on Nov. 8, 2014 at 7:31 AM
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Anonymous
by Anonymous 2 on Nov. 8, 2014 at 7:33 AM
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Fry the bastard!!
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by Anonymous 1 - Original Poster on Nov. 8, 2014 at 7:43 AM
I gotta say the same.

The boys dads side of the family thought the wife just took them and was crossing the boarder to mexico, but they were never seen again. Cause they left everything at their homes etc. I remeber the show was called disappear. Now ibknow it was the wife and it was someone else.


Quoting Anonymous 2: Fry the bastard!!
lucille.bluth
by Platinum Member on Nov. 8, 2014 at 7:47 AM
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I remeber when they disappeared. I was surprised when they found their bodies, I never thought that would happen. I hoped they really had gone to Mexico. I'm curious to find out the details of how they figured out it was this guy.
Liddy07
by Thesaurus.Rex on Nov. 8, 2014 at 8:12 AM
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I remember this story. The events were such a mystery. It was haunting! I hope the family finds answers, peace and justice!

MeAndTommyLee
by Angie on Nov. 8, 2014 at 8:17 AM
I'm pretty amazed they solved this case. Now I need to go back and watch the episode because the alleged killer made several statements.
Anonymous
by Anonymous 1 - Original Poster on Nov. 8, 2014 at 9:11 AM
I was hoping to that they were in mexico. And surpise tgat theg solved it. It took them five years to solve it.

Quoting lucille.bluth: I remeber when they disappeared. I was surprised when they found their bodies, I never thought that would happen. I hoped they really had gone to Mexico. I'm curious to find out the details of how they figured out it was this guy.
Anonymous
by Anonymous 3 on Nov. 13, 2014 at 9:59 PM


Quoting lucille.bluth: I remeber when they disappeared. I was surprised when they found their bodies, I never thought that would happen. I hoped they really had gone to Mexico. I'm curious to find out the details of how they figured out it was this guy.

I'd like to see the details too.

The DA seems sure they have the guilty man, but I won't decide before seeing the evidence, unlike some posters here.


I have followed this case and hope justice will be done for those two beautiful boys and their parents.


I think Joey's brother Michael McStay's behavior is way off and I wonder why.

I agree with the following expert on deception who says he is hiding something.

Hopefully the truth will come out.





The McStay Murders


Many people wonder what I think of the recent developments in the case of the McStay family murders. We have video footage of Chase Merritt speaking to CNN as well as other footage of family members, etc.

When I watch Chase Merritt speak, from the interviews I’ve seen on CNN last night, I can say that I do not see anything that sets me off as “hot” regarding deception.  He actually says a couple of things that lean towards honesty in these videos. He says and does things that are more consistent with honesty than deception, though I have chosen to remain neutral on him.  I remain neutral when I don’t believe I have strong enough behavioral evidence to be conclusive from what I have seen.  With that, if people have interviews of Chase Merritt that they believe reveal hot spots, please post links to them below with time markers and I will look at them.

I want to clarify that I saw Chase in the interview on CNN in Buried Secrets: Who Murdered the McStay Family.  I missed the first 15 minutes of the show, but saw the rest of it. I tried to find links to the show in full this morning, but was unable to. I wanted to watch the first 15 minutes I missed.

There is a person in this case, however, that deeply troubles me in this investigation, and it is Michael McStay, the brother Joseph McStay, who was murdered along with his family.  He has pinged me in every single interview he has done to date.

Michael McStay concerns me on multiple levels.

Chase Merritt was the one who pointed out that the family seemed to be missing, and it was Michael who just wrote it off and ignored it.  Merritt kept asking the family to stop by, to take a look and to take it seriously, and it took Michael 9 days to get to his brother’s house. Michael said he just believed his brother and family were on vacation, and yet the dogs were left outside with no food or water?  How does that make sense?

I am troubled by how Michael behaves in the interview with Tim Miller from Equusearch when they first searched the house.  He shows no concern whatsoever when strangers seem to know something is very off. Michael McStay laughs and jokes as if all is well–very odd.  Michael says very boldly, “The detectives told me this is not a crime scene and I can do whatever I want to.”  His statement there is so full of arrogance and lack of concern for his brother that it is staggering. If you found food rotting on the counters and it appeared your family left quickly, wouldn’t you want to treat everything as a crime scene to preserve evidence?  Why didn’t Michael?

How could have been sure it wasn’t a crime scene?  It defies logic.

In the video inside the McStay house with Tim Miller, someone off film says to Michael, “They didn’t get abducted or forcibly removed from the house…” and Michael responds “No, well no,  …no, somebody could have said hey man, just like happened before Chase said ‘oh my shop got broken into, I can’t finish your jobs, I’ve got thousands of dollars to get out”…it could have been, ‘hey Joe, I’m coming over, I’m almost there, I’m almost there’, he got five calls…uh, ‘hey, I’m here, I’ll meet you at the bank or whatever’. My brother was going to give him money again, who knows, it could have been that….I…that’s….a possibility, too.  But I can tell you one thing, they got pulled away from the house by somebody that was comfortable to them.”

I find it odd that Michael immediately points the finger towards Chase so early on. If he was suspicious of Chase, why didn’t he wonder why his brother and his family were gone for 9 days? Why didn’t he respond to Chase’s earlier phone calls the day after Chase was suspicious something went wrong? Chase had to call Michael’s mom to get Michael to come out. These seem inconsistent to me. In that entire video, Micheal’s demeanor and behavior is off.

When the bodies of the McStay family were found in November 2013, we see Michael again acting odd. You can read my post here.  He is crying tears, but shows every indication his crying is fake.  And worse, he says at the end of his speech which is riddled with oddities and extreme discomfort, “I know everyone in America loves the McStays, and we’re going to find this individual…or individuals…I know the sheriffs, the FBI, ….everybody wants to bring this to justice, and if its the last thing I do, I just…..I just wanna know, you know… when its over (laugh).”  He then buries his face!! He comes back up to the microphone and says, “That’s all” as he gives an expression of contempt.

Really? 

What is making him laugh?  It’s not nervous laughter in the slightest.  He finds something funny and he wants to hide it in nearly every interview we see of him. It doesn’t add up at all. Is he hiding a huge whopper?  It sure makes you think.  Add to this, he went into his brothers house multiple times because the police didn’t make it a crime scene, and he freely admits he took his brother’s computer, too.  Why was his brother’s computer of interest to him, if it wasn’t of interest to the police? And he asked that if anyone found any secure digital cards from his sister-in-laws camera lying around the house to give them directly to him.  I found that very odd.

In that post above when the McStay’s bodies were found, I also mention that I happened upon a statement by Michael McStay reported by People Magazine in 2010 where Michael was quoted as saying, “My fear is that I’m looking for two adult shallow graves and … my two nephews’ crosses.”

WHAT??  What the hell is going on?  He seems to have predicted how we’d find his relatives to a tee — three years before they were found. How does this happen?  This is no coincidence.

And last, after hearing that Chase Merritt has been arrest, Michael McStay’s behavior clearly jumps out at me again.  Look at this video below at the six minute time marker.




Watch as Michael walks to the microphone–he has to hide his face!! Why?

Because his emotions are flat out inappropriate. He is holding back laughter again. He starts out by saying, “I said I wasn’t going to cry (smiling the whole time) but um, they did a great job.”

Michael is TRYING TO ACT sad, but he cannot pull it off.  There are no scientific markers of sadness whatsoever.  Instead, he keeps trying to shake off his happiness and shows lots of signs of discomfort doing so.  I have no doubt that Michael is faking his emotions here, and why in the world would he have to fake his emotions unless he feels differently?

People are pointing the motive of jealousy with Merritt. The one I have to wonder about who might have been jealous is Michael.

While I am open to continue exploring this case through behavioral evidence and interviews, I cannot get Michael McStay out of my mind. He is haunting, to say the least.  He is hiding something and it doesn’t make me feel good on any level.






Anonymous
by Anonymous 4 on Nov. 13, 2014 at 10:02 PM

Ummm never heard of them . . .

Anonymous
by Anonymous 3 on Nov. 13, 2014 at 10:10 PM

A family in CA murdered and buried in the desert.

The police thought they had left voluntarily until their bodies turned up.


Quoting Anonymous 4:

Ummm never heard of them . . .

Joseph McStay; his wife, Summer; and their two children, Gianni and Joseph Jr., disappeared from their home in suburban San Diego on February 4, 2010.
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Anonymous
by Anonymous 4 on Nov. 13, 2014 at 10:12 PM

OK  I still never heard about it.  I live 3,000 miles away from CA.

Quoting Anonymous 3:

A family in CA murdered and buried in the desert.

The police thought they had left voluntarily until their bodies turned up.


Quoting Anonymous 4:

Ummm never heard of them . . .


Joseph McStay; his wife, Summer; and their two children, Gianni and Joseph Jr., disappeared from their home in suburban San Diego on February 4, 2010.
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