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Many women saying they considered the C.D.C. recommendation insulting, severe and impractical.CreditHiroko Masuike/The New York Times

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention defended arecommendation that sexually active women refrain from drinking alcohol if they are not using birth control after it spurred a strong backlash, with many women saying they considered the suggestion insulting, severe and impractical.

Anne Schuchat, principal deputy director of the C.D.C., said in an interview Friday, “We weren’t as clear as we had hoped to be.”

The C.D.C. report released on Tuesday focused on the possibility that children may develop fetal alcohol spectrum disorders, estimating that 3.3 million women between the ages of 15 and 44 who drink alcohol while not using birth control risked exposing their infants to the disorders.

The report suggested that women who intend to get pregnant or could get pregnant should not drink alcohol, as about half of all pregnancies in the United States are unplanned and most women do not know they are pregnant until four to six weeks into the pregnancy.

But the idea that fertile women who are not using contraception should indefinitely not drink alcohol was not well received by many women. Dr. Schuchat, however, said the C.D.C.’s intention was to explain the risk of drinking before a woman knows she is pregnant and to show that the harmful effects of alcohol on a developing baby were “completely preventable” — not to prescribe a lifestyle or suggest women “plan their entire lives around a hypothetical baby.”

“We’re really all about empowering women to make good choices and to give them the best information we can so they can decide what they want to do themselves,” Dr. Schuchat said. “Alcohol in that period can be particularly risky, so we wanted to make sure people are aware of that. What they do with that information is, of course, up to them.”

Much of the response to the recommendation, however, was negative. Jezebel, a website devoted to women’s issues, called it an “unrealistic warning.” The Washington Post said it was “incredibly condescending.” And Slate called it “swath-yourself-in-bubble-wrap thinking.”

“Its underlying message was unmistakable: Women should consider themselves first a vessel for human life and make decisions about their health and behavior based on that possibility,” Rebecca Ruiz wrote at Mashable.

Some organizations, however, like the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, applauded the recommendation.

Drinking during pregnancy has long been linked to the disorders, which can stunt children’s growth and cause lifelong disabilities. In October, a report by the American Academy of Pediatrics said that “no amount of alcohol should be considered safe to drink during any trimester of pregnancy.”

The C.D.C. report said that, although 90 percent of women stop drinking alcohol once they know they are pregnant, three in four women who intend to get pregnant do not stop drinking when they stop using birth control. That would suggest people think less about the effects of alcohol in the early parts of the first trimester — when they may be unaware of the pregnancy — a time during which developing children are already at risk, according to the C.D.C.

“I absolutely respect women, and want them to be empowered to make the choices that are important to them,” Dr. Schuchat said. “Some of the coverage that portrayed the C.D.C. as only thinking about women as incubating babies was a big misunderstanding of our attitude.”

Posted by Anonymous on Feb. 6, 2016 at 3:19 PM
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by Anonymous 2 on Feb. 6, 2016 at 3:24 PM
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Oh my goodness, enough with this pseudo-feminist drivel. When it comes to pregnancy, there are undeniable biological differences between a man and a woman. A man cannot cause his unborn fetus to have FAS but a woman can.

And the CDC doesn't say that woman can't drink and have sex. They're just saying to use birth control.
by Anonymous 1 - Original Poster on Feb. 7, 2016 at 11:38 AM


by Anonymous 1 - Original Poster on Feb. 7, 2016 at 11:39 AM

Not content to stop at forbidding exhausted, stressed-out pregnant women from having an occasional glass of wine, the big brains at our Centers for Disease Control have issued a hip infographic where they now blame non-pregnant women who consume alcohol for their own rapes, unwanted babies, and the spread of STDs.

By no means do I intend to condone women throwing ’em back each night throughout their pregnancies, but has it occurred to anyone that perhaps women who give birth to children with fetal alcohol syndrome aren’t being honest about exactly how much alcohol they had while pregnant?

Anyhoo.  That’s not my point, so don’t go off on a tangent leaving hate comments about how there is no such thing as a safe amount of alcohol in pregnancy; ain’t nobody got time for that.  Today I want to talk about a host of encounters that a fertile woman should avoid if she’s pregnant, planning on becoming pregnant, or in danger of being pregnant and just not smart enough to realize it that were all somehow left off of the CDC’s “rules for women” infographic.

First and foremost, pregnant and fertile women must avoid taking advice from the CDC.

The CDC is cool with pregnant women getting vaccinated for any disease in existence except for two:  rubella and chickenpox/shingles.  That’s it.  Everything else is good to go if you want it. And when it comes to the Tdap and flu vaccines?  Forget about it.  They come just shy of telling doctors to hold women down and give them against their will.  Never mind the 4,250% increase in miscarriage reported to VAERS after flu vaccination.  Ignore the fact that fetal deaths from flu-infected mothers were “not significantly reduced” by flu vaccination so taking the jab for your “unborn baby’s safety” is just a bunch of bull.  Pay no attention to the absurdity of injecting tetanus toxoid into pregnant women on the regular when it is known that neonatal tetanus infection causes microcephaly.

But what if we treated American women as well as we treat, oh, let’s say… cats?  What does the World Small Animal Veterinarian Association say about vaccinating fertile female cats?  “Vaccination should occur before and not during pregnancy unless essential.”  Not only that, but if the cat has already been vaccinated, it shouldn’t even receive additional vaccines before pregnancy.  Because why?  Because you shouldn’t over-vaccinate your cat; all veterinarians know that.

Pregnant and fertile women should never take advice from pharmaceutical companies.

When has a pharmaceutical company said their drug was unsafe, ever, in the history of time?  Why do we think that companies that have been ordered to pay $10.4 BILLION in civil and criminal fines in just the last five years have our safety at heart?  Painkillers, antidepressants, antibiotics, blood pressure drugs, and seizure drugs…  all safe for mother and child–just ask the companies who make them.

Pregnant and fertile women should probably not listen to their doctors.

The average doctor is only going to know what they learned in medical school and whatever they’re taught during mandatory continuing education courses.  Surely it isn’t a conflict that medical schools accept major cash donations and gifts from drug companies that may or may not have an impact on curriculum and positions taught to young doctor minds in school.  What about the CME credits subsidized by drug companies in exotic locations and warm sandy beaches?  Are our doctors learning anything from their patients’ experiences or only the propaganda left behind by sexy college cheerleaders-turned-drug reps?

Pregnant and fertile women should steer clear of all hospitals.

Hospitals accidentally kill up to 440,000 people each year!  Why in the world would a woman ever set foot in one?  Do you know how many deaths are on record after going to the chiropractor– for all time, in the history of research?  26.  I’m not drawing any conclusions but you do the math.

Pregnant women should have their babies somewhere else.

With our rank of 167 out of 224 countries for infant mortality, women might consider birthing in one of the 57 countries with better survival rates than ours, such as Cuba or South Korea.

Pregnant and fertile women should not trust any other governmental agencies including but not limited to the FDA, EPA and USDA.

The FDA tightly regulates the consumption of genetically engineered food through actions like their voluntary consultation program that no one has to comply with, and they put the determination of whether or not GMOs are safe to eat squarely on the shoulders of…  the companies selling them to you.

Maybe the FDA doesn’t warn fertile women not to eat GMOs because eating genetically engineered food slathered in pesticide is almost as good as being on birth control when it comes to causing infertility.

Let’s see what the USDA says about GMO safety concerns, because we all know there are at least concerns, right?  Oh, they say a whole bunch of nothing under their safety considerations and conspicuously absent is any wording about tumors, organ failure, gastrointestinal illness, and infertility.

Surely the EPA cares about pregnant women eating GMOs since their agency is the one that has Monsanto corn registered as a pesticide?  Anyone? Bueller?

Pregnant and fertile women should avoid eating in any restaurant that’s taken a non-GMO stance against Monsanto.

Do you want to get poisoned by an unusual, untraceable strain of sickening e. coli?  Then dine at a company that’s taken a giant public stance against Monsanto and test your luck.  The CDC just concluded the mysterious Chipotle e. coli investigation this week and guess what the smoking gun was?  They have no idea.  A major operating component of the largest health department in America with– let’s admit it– unlimited resources, has absolutely no idea what caused 55 people in 11 states to get sick from eating at restaurants at the top of Monsanto’s hit list, but you can bet it wasn’t sabotage.

Hope this helps, ladies!

by Ruby Member on Feb. 7, 2016 at 11:40 AM
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Over 50% of pregnancies are unplanned. Why is bad advice?

by on Feb. 7, 2016 at 11:41 AM

I'm not on birth control and I drink occasionally. I'm also not worried about getting pregnant since I'm not willing to continue a pregnancy at this point of my life anyways. 

by Anonymous 3 on Feb. 7, 2016 at 11:45 AM

This happened because too many women become sluts when they drink and continue to drink through their unplanned pregnancies.  Apparently if the CDC actually had to say this.

by Platinum Member on Feb. 7, 2016 at 12:00 PM

I'm not going I birth control.

Fuck the CDC
by on Feb. 7, 2016 at 12:02 PM
Untwist your panties, girls. It's ADVICE. Don't like it? Don't take it. They're not talking about making it a law.
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