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SECOND AMENDMENT--YOUR RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS

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Ron Paul is the most conservative supporter of gun rights believing there should be NO legislation whatsoever restricting gun ownership.

Mitt Romney has voted for gun restriction legislation on several occasions, but has since changed his mind and now advocates for unhampered gun ownership.

Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum fall somewhat in between, believing that a few pieces of legislation are necessary for public safety.

Barack Obama believes in increased gun control.  He stops short of asking for a complete ban but believes citizens should not be allowed to ever carry a gun.

The UN believes in total gun control.  No citizen should ever at any time for any reason own a firearm of any kind.


What is your beliefs about gun control, totally banned, totally allowed without restriction, or somewhere in between?

Also, There is a UN treaty (The UN Small Arms Treaty) before the Senate.  Any treaty must be ratified by 2/3 vote in the senate before becoming law.  So far, this treaty does not have the support needed to become law.  Do you believe it should become law?  Do you believe the US should be under international law that is held above our own Constitution?

by on Feb. 19, 2012 at 12:35 PM
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bookmommy
by on Feb. 20, 2012 at 8:19 PM

Besides the fact that he started the UN's current witchhunt on guns and gun ownership? He isn't stupid enough to SAY no one should own guns, but of course "important" people have protection in the form of armed escorts..and regular people? Well, they just should sit back and accept right by right taken away like good little citizens.

Sad really.But,people have their opinions, I have mine. I won't bother trying to change anyone's mind cause it's a futile effort. I will say if we let people take away rights guaranteed to us it is a slippery slope. As Pastor Martin Niemoller said:

First they came for the communists
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.

Quoting sarebear31976:

When I said "need" I think about the uses that average people have for guns.  Like hunting, or home protection.  A 50 caliber SNIPER rifle is not something needed for either of those activities.  If the average responsible gun owner is legally allowed to own these, then so is everyone else.  Since there is not a legitimate use for these outside of law enforcement or military then why should the average gun owner own this type of gun?  And I can't recall President Obama ever stating that "no one can own firearms".  If you have a link to that statement I would love to read it.

Quoting bookmommy:

Problem with that is..you think no one "needs" that type of gun..and that is the slippery slope. Who gets to decide what we "need" to own? If it was up to Obama, not one would own any firearms..

Quoting sarebear31976:

 I am fully aware that I am going to get hammered for this but, I don't think there should ever be unrestricted gun availability.  I believe that a person has a right to own a gun (we do) but it's not their right to own every gun.  I have seen a 50 cal sniper rifle at a gun show for about $1200.  What on earth would an average citizen need that kind of gun for?  What reason is there for someone to have an automatic assault rifle if they are not in the military or police professions?  Why would they need a gun that shoots through bricks?  Even if everyone was a responsible gun owner there is not a need for that kind of firepower.  And everyone is not a responsible gun owner.  




ekralevich
by on Feb. 20, 2012 at 8:22 PM

I KNOW, it's so kool. Shooting watermelons is awesome.  I don't expect everyone to understand why I want one for fun.  Most men understand what I'm saying.  It's like bombing stuff for fun.  My DH blew up a dryer once and it was awesome.  We care very safe people when we do it.  I was military for 8 years and I knew I would have guns after basic training.   I love them.  We have 7 now and are expanding to 20+ at some point.  Next purchase is a interchangeable barrel gun for my 7 year old DS.  He says he is ready to hunt.  Guess we will find out.  We all have hunter safety courses and have owned guns for a long time.  Our ammunition is in a lock box so the kids can't get into them.  All guns in locked gun cases.

Quoting sarebear31976:

You like to just have a 50 caliber sniper rifle for fun?  That is not a fun gun.  It blows apart whatever it shoots.  

Quoting ekralevich:

I like to shoot a 50 cal and that's why I want to own one.  I'm not planning on going out a leveling a place.  I know I can't use it for home defence. that's what the shot gun is for.  If I shoot I aim to kill.

Quoting sarebear31976:

 I am fully aware that I am going to get hammered for this but, I don't think there should ever be unrestricted gun availability.  I believe that a person has a right to own a gun (we do) but it's not their right to own every gun.  I have seen a 50 cal sniper rifle at a gun show for about $1200.  What on earth would an average citizen need that kind of gun for?  What reason is there for someone to have an automatic assault rifle if they are not in the military or police professions?  Why would they need a gun that shoots through bricks?  Even if everyone was a responsible gun owner there is not a need for that kind of firepower.  And everyone is not a responsible gun owner.  




ekralevich
by on Feb. 20, 2012 at 8:25 PM

I'm still confused as to why I shouldn't be able to own one?  There are more "BAD" guns on the black market.  It's not hard to get them illegally if a "bad" person wants one. 

Quoting sarebear31976:

When I said "need" I think about the uses that average people have for guns.  Like hunting, or home protection.  A 50 caliber SNIPER rifle is not something needed for either of those activities.  If the average responsible gun owner is legally allowed to own these, then so is everyone else.  Since there is not a legitimate use for these outside of law enforcement or military then why should the average gun owner own this type of gun?  And I can't recall President Obama ever stating that "no one can own firearms".  If you have a link to that statement I would love to read it.

Quoting bookmommy:

Problem with that is..you think no one "needs" that type of gun..and that is the slippery slope. Who gets to decide what we "need" to own? If it was up to Obama, not one would own any firearms..

Quoting sarebear31976:

 I am fully aware that I am going to get hammered for this but, I don't think there should ever be unrestricted gun availability.  I believe that a person has a right to own a gun (we do) but it's not their right to own every gun.  I have seen a 50 cal sniper rifle at a gun show for about $1200.  What on earth would an average citizen need that kind of gun for?  What reason is there for someone to have an automatic assault rifle if they are not in the military or police professions?  Why would they need a gun that shoots through bricks?  Even if everyone was a responsible gun owner there is not a need for that kind of firepower.  And everyone is not a responsible gun owner.  




sarebear31976
by on Feb. 20, 2012 at 8:26 PM

I wish everyone was responsible with their guns like this.  We have one and it is locked up also, but we have taught our kids about it because we want them to be responsible with guns too.  My husband takes my son shooting at a range nearby.  I still think huge caliber sniper rifles should be reserved for military and law enforcement though. :)

Quoting ekralevich:

I KNOW, it's so kool. Shooting watermelons is awesome.  I don't expect everyone to understand why I want one for fun.  Most men understand what I'm saying.  It's like bombing stuff for fun.  My DH blew up a dryer once and it was awesome.  We care very safe people when we do it.  I was military for 8 years and I knew I would have guns after basic training.   I love them.  We have 7 now and are expanding to 20+ at some point.  Next purchase is a interchangeable barrel gun for my 7 year old DS.  He says he is ready to hunt.  Guess we will find out.  We all have hunter safety courses and have owned guns for a long time.  Our ammunition is in a lock box so the kids can't get into them.  All guns in locked gun cases.

Quoting sarebear31976:

You like to just have a 50 caliber sniper rifle for fun?  That is not a fun gun.  It blows apart whatever it shoots.  

Quoting ekralevich:

I like to shoot a 50 cal and that's why I want to own one.  I'm not planning on going out a leveling a place.  I know I can't use it for home defence. that's what the shot gun is for.  If I shoot I aim to kill.

Quoting sarebear31976:

 I am fully aware that I am going to get hammered for this but, I don't think there should ever be unrestricted gun availability.  I believe that a person has a right to own a gun (we do) but it's not their right to own every gun.  I have seen a 50 cal sniper rifle at a gun show for about $1200.  What on earth would an average citizen need that kind of gun for?  What reason is there for someone to have an automatic assault rifle if they are not in the military or police professions?  Why would they need a gun that shoots through bricks?  Even if everyone was a responsible gun owner there is not a need for that kind of firepower.  And everyone is not a responsible gun owner.  





Sarah




Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind."

-Dr. Seuss

DropZoneMom
by New Member on Feb. 20, 2012 at 8:30 PM
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1.   The 2nd amendment guarantees the right to bear arms as part of a "WELL-REGULATED MILITIA."   Funny how groups like the NRA conveniently leave that part out.

2.  BULLSHIP about Obama wanting to ban personal gun ownership.   Check your facts before posting.

Kate_Momof3
by Platinum Member on Feb. 20, 2012 at 8:30 PM

 I have an inner ear disorder that makes noises like gunfire and explosives painful for me to hear (even with ear plugs). It sucks because if I didn't have it, I would love to do stuff like this. I would be the most laidback, mellow person if I blew up a dryer or two every now and then. lol

Good for you for being such a responsible gun owner!

Quoting ekralevich:

I KNOW, it's so kool. Shooting watermelons is awesome.  I don't expect everyone to understand why I want one for fun.  Most men understand what I'm saying.  It's like bombing stuff for fun.  My DH blew up a dryer once and it was awesome.  We care very safe people when we do it.  I was military for 8 years and I knew I would have guns after basic training.   I love them.  We have 7 now and are expanding to 20+ at some point.  Next purchase is a interchangeable barrel gun for my 7 year old DS.  He says he is ready to hunt.  Guess we will find out.  We all have hunter safety courses and have owned guns for a long time.  Our ammunition is in a lock box so the kids can't get into them.  All guns in locked gun cases.

Quoting sarebear31976:

You like to just have a 50 caliber sniper rifle for fun?  That is not a fun gun.  It blows apart whatever it shoots.  

Quoting ekralevich:

I like to shoot a 50 cal and that's why I want to own one.  I'm not planning on going out a leveling a place.  I know I can't use it for home defence. that's what the shot gun is for.  If I shoot I aim to kill.

Quoting sarebear31976:

 I am fully aware that I am going to get hammered for this but, I don't think there should ever be unrestricted gun availability.  I believe that a person has a right to own a gun (we do) but it's not their right to own every gun.  I have seen a 50 cal sniper rifle at a gun show for about $1200.  What on earth would an average citizen need that kind of gun for?  What reason is there for someone to have an automatic assault rifle if they are not in the military or police professions?  Why would they need a gun that shoots through bricks?  Even if everyone was a responsible gun owner there is not a need for that kind of firepower.  And everyone is not a responsible gun owner.  

 


 

 

Carpy
by Platinum Member on Feb. 20, 2012 at 8:37 PM

My dog Tykie would conceal well, but he wouldn't be much value as a means of defending myself.

Quoting TruthSeeker.:

 

Quoting Kate_Momof3:

 I'm all for the right to bear arms. Rock out with your bad self if you feel the need to carry. If you've done the legwork and you've got all your necessary paperwork in order. Carry 50 guns around all day long for all I care.

Here's my take on it: when I get to the point in my life when I feel the need for protection, I will purchase a well-trained dog. And I will name her Kermit.

 You can't always take a dog with you and it really doesn't conceal well in a pocket:)


ekralevich
by on Feb. 20, 2012 at 8:40 PM
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That part makes no since in the fact that it also says " the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed"  If it was really for just militia it would not have said the right of the people.  It was meant to say that we can come together as a well regulated militia if needed because we can own guns to arm and defend ourselves.  JMO on it.

Quoting DropZoneMom:

1.   The 2nd amendment guarantees the right to bear arms as part of a "WELL-REGULATED MILITIA."   Funny how groups like the NRA conveniently leave that part out.

2.  BULLSHIP about Obama wanting to ban personal gun ownership.   Check your facts before posting.


yourspecialkid
by on Feb. 20, 2012 at 8:44 PM

 I believe in little to no regulation.

When the Constitution was written being a part of the militia was a common thing.  The FF intended for citizens to have the power to overthrow the govt if the need arose.

Regulations only work on honest people...honest people aren't the ones committing crimes.

 

Carpy
by Platinum Member on Feb. 20, 2012 at 8:47 PM

Kermit the dog would be shot by a thug with a gun.

Quoting Kate_Momof3:

 That may be true, but did you get my Kermit the dog joke? C'mon, I know you know that I know that you think that's hilarious.

Quoting Carpy:

I may have been born at night, but it wasn't last night.

Quoting Kate_Momof3:

 The Beatles were being ironic.

Quoting Carpy:

Happiness is a warm gun, Bang bang shoot shoot,  When I hald you in my arms and i feel my finger on your trigger, I know, nobody can do me no harm.

Quoting ExecutiveChick:

I'll just snuggle my gun, it will never have fleas. Okay, I'm kidding :) We have attack cats as a first line of defense.

Quoting imagirlgeek:

I get why you'd prefer a dog too.  I can't snuggle a gun. :-)  Well...I guess I could, but that would be weird. lol

Quoting Kate_Momof3:

I get what you're saying. Like I said, have no problem with having a gun. Personally, I'd prefer a well-trained dog named Kermit.


 


 


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