Join the Meeting Place for Moms!
Talk to other moms, share advice, and have fun!

(minimum 6 characters)

News & Politics News & Politics

This Alone Should Be Enough to Disqualify Obama for Re-Election

Posted by   + Show Post

A quick glance at the Federal Debt Clock shows the following...

A number growing really fast but as of 6 AM Pacific Time on Tuesday it's at $15,588,614,000,000 and getting bigger really fast.

Our current administration has added a third of that total in three years. That number was $8.67 trillion in January of 2007 when Nancy Pelosi became Speaker of the House, Harry Reid took over the Senate, and Barack Obama became a Senator. http://www.redstate.com/california_y...peaker-pelosi/

Of the House, the Senate, and the Presidency, Democrats have controlled two of those three if not all three every year since 2007, and in those five years we have seen the total debt for a nation that is more than 230 years old almost double.

And what's scary, is that our current president doesn't even talk about it. The debt will reach 16 trillion before election day and would reach more than 20 trillion before the end of a second Obama term...And Obama and his party won't even pass a budget. That level of fiscal incompetence all by itself is reason enough to send the Democrats packing.

by on Mar. 27, 2012 at 9:27 AM
Replies (11-20):
rccmom
by Gold Member on Mar. 27, 2012 at 10:04 AM
8 moms liked this

You cannot do much to reduce the budget when you are working with children, disguised as adults. Sorry, did not mean to insult the children of this country.

To blame the entire budget on just the President is taking a very simplistic view. If you want to undestand why we are where we are, you need to look at our govt history, and our govt culture. I do not see any plan the Repubs have that will be viable at truly cutting the deficit either.

Oh, but the Repubs will cut enough regulation to make sure their business cronies continue to make money while laying waste to any protection the middle class may enjoy. Now there's a plan for ya! Yea for corporations, the true backbone of this country!! Silly me thought it was the middle class.  

imamomzilla
Report
It's been a while!
Today at 3:01 PM
by on Mar. 27, 2012 at 10:09 AM
1 mom liked this

 Is this supposed to be funny? Some of us adults are just as passionate about the fragile state of the economy and our government as you are about what's important to YOU.

Please stop trying to make a capital offence out of every word I type and insinuating things that are not there. Thank you in advance and good day to you.

Quoting denise3680:

 

Mamawto4
by Bronze Member on Mar. 27, 2012 at 10:12 AM
4 moms liked this


Quoting jejstover:

As long as Congress and the White House are occupied by the status quo (from both the Democrat and Republican Parties) it's not likely that we will see real change in the way business is done (money is allocated and debt is acquired).

It's waaaay past time for some fiscal common sense and cutting through all the empty campaign promises and political pandering (on both sides of the isle) --- we need some serious spending cuts  (as proposed by Ron Paul and Libertarians running for office) to save our country from financial ruin.

Jan

I think the populace as a whole is an even bigger problem.  I have brought up the fact that every area of gov't needs to be either cut or reduced and have gotten a lot of pushback even here.  People want cuts, but not to anything they see as important.  Too many think their project should be expanded while everything else is cut.  If we could get past this attitude, I think we could put enough pressure on Congress to at least begin to take the steps necessary to turn things around.

I agree that Ron Paul has the best fiscal policy.  It is becoming more and more evident that Romney will be the Republican nominee.  And, right now I know it is just rumors that Paul and Romney are working out some sort of delegate deal.  But personally, I think it's a good idea (the delegate deal).  Paul can trade his delegates, and perhaps more than just a few voters, for a stronger say in fiscal responsibility under a Romney Presidency.

Meadowchik
by Gold Member on Mar. 27, 2012 at 10:23 AM
3 moms liked this

A good start would be to pass a budget to begin with.  Republicans cut spending in 2011.  Obama hasn't passed a budget in 3 years.  Maybe others need to be replaced too, but so does Obama.

Quoting rccmom:

You cannot do much to reduce the budget when you are working with children, disguised as adults. Sorry, did not mean to insult the children of this country.

To blame the entire budget on just the President is taking a very simplistic view. If you want to undestand why we are where we are, you need to look at our govt history, and our govt culture. I do not see any plan the Repubs have that will be viable at truly cutting the deficit either.

Oh, but the Repubs will cut enough regulation to make sure their business cronies continue to make money while laying waste to any protection the middle class may enjoy. Now there's a plan for ya! Yea for corporations, the true backbone of this country!! Silly me thought it was the middle class.  


rccmom
by Gold Member on Mar. 27, 2012 at 10:52 AM
1 mom liked this

Absolutely true. And while Obama has not done the best job possible, I do believe the Republicans believe they gain by not allowing him to pass a budget. Of course the Dems were idiots for not passing a budget in the first place before the Repubs got to take their elected seats. They, the Dems, should have at least passed a budget at that time, but they listened to the Repubs saying how unfair that would be to not allow them to come into the offices they were elected to.

Anyway, I don't see any Republican or Democratic plan working. They need to CUT spending and RAISE taxes, or at least close the tax loopholes. According to Norquist's (sp?) binding contract that so many Repubs signed, any loophole closing much be revenue neutral. That is insanity. So, Repubs will not allow any loophole closed be allowed to increase the amount of money the govt gets. They call it "increasing taxes" when it is simply closing a loophole that never should have existed.

And they need to look beyond just cutting social programs, and environmental programs. I get the feeling that all the Repubs want to do is cut regulation allowing businesses to run rough shod over the environment, and cut help for the poor. All the Dems want to do is raise taxes on the rich, and keep the social programs. Though Obama has signaled his willingness to cut the business tax, if they cut the loopholes. I haven't heard any takers on the Repubs side even though they are all for a lower business tax.

In the end, since I believe neither party's plan will work, I believe the Dems will cause the least overall harm. The best solution though would be for them to uh oh, here's that dirty word, compromise, and do their jobs! 

 

Quoting Meadowchik:

A good start would be to pass a budget to begin with.  Republicans cut spending in 2011.  Obama hasn't passed a budget in 3 years.  Maybe others need to be replaced too, but so does Obama.

Quoting rccmom:

You cannot do much to reduce the budget when you are working with children, disguised as adults. Sorry, did not mean to insult the children of this country.

To blame the entire budget on just the President is taking a very simplistic view. If you want to undestand why we are where we are, you need to look at our govt history, and our govt culture. I do not see any plan the Repubs have that will be viable at truly cutting the deficit either.

Oh, but the Repubs will cut enough regulation to make sure their business cronies continue to make money while laying waste to any protection the middle class may enjoy. Now there's a plan for ya! Yea for corporations, the true backbone of this country!! Silly me thought it was the middle class.  

 


sugarsmom2
by Member on Mar. 28, 2012 at 5:28 PM
1 mom liked this

neither will the republicans make a deal . get real it is not all the democrats fault . this is a joint venture . we have to agree to sign the bill and things that help . come on . stop pointing fingers at the other side . it is a loss anyway you point .

Sisteract
by Socialist Hippie on Mar. 28, 2012 at 6:18 PM


Quoting sweet-a-kins:

What happen with that republican congress that was going to cut spending?

The Golden Congress of 2010- Sure thang

Doesn't Congress legislate and initiate spending bills?

Sisteract
by Socialist Hippie on Mar. 28, 2012 at 6:21 PM


Quoting rccmom:

Absolutely true. And while Obama has not done the best job possible, I do believe the Republicans believe they gain by not allowing him to pass a budget. Of course the Dems were idiots for not passing a budget in the first place before the Repubs got to take their elected seats. They, the Dems, should have at least passed a budget at that time, but they listened to the Repubs saying how unfair that would be to not allow them to come into the offices they were elected to.

Anyway, I don't see any Republican or Democratic plan working. They need to CUT spending and RAISE taxes, or at least close the tax loopholes. According to Norquist's (sp?) binding contract that so many Repubs signed, any loophole closing much be revenue neutral. That is insanity. So, Repubs will not allow any loophole closed be allowed to increase the amount of money the govt gets. They call it "increasing taxes" when it is simply closing a loophole that never should have existed.

And they need to look beyond just cutting social programs, and environmental programs. I get the feeling that all the Repubs want to do is cut regulation allowing businesses to run rough shod over the environment, and cut help for the poor. All the Dems want to do is raise taxes on the rich, and keep the social programs. Though Obama has signaled his willingness to cut the business tax, if they cut the loopholes. I haven't heard any takers on the Repubs side even though they are all for a lower business tax.

In the end, since I believe neither party's plan will work, I believe the Dems will cause the least overall harm. The best solution though would be for them to uh oh, here's that dirty word, compromise, and do their jobs! 


I AGREE !!!!!!! clapping

sweet-a-kins
by Ruby Member on Mar. 28, 2012 at 6:52 PM
Stop talking facts

They don't belong Here


Quoting Sisteract:


Quoting sweet-a-kins:

What happen with that republican congress that was going to cut spending?

The Golden Congress of 2010- Sure thang

Doesn't Congress legislate and initiate spending bills?

Posted on CafeMom Mobile
Carpy
by Platinum Member on Mar. 28, 2012 at 6:58 PM
1 mom liked this

You mean the republican House?  They have to contend with a democrat senate.

Quoting sweet-a-kins:

What happen with that republican congress that was going to cut spending?


Add your quick reply below:
You must be a member to reply to this post.
Join the Meeting Place for Moms!
Talk to other moms, share advice, and have fun!

(minimum 6 characters)