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Arizona Abortion Bill: Legislators Pass Three Bills, Including One That Redefines When Life Begins

Posted: 04/10/2012 4:37 pm Updated: 04/10/2012 5:58 pm

Arizona Abortion Bill

Arizona lawmakers gave final passage to three anti-abortion bills Tuesday afternoon, including one that declares pregnancies in the state begin two weeks before conception.

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The Republican-controlled House of Representatives passed a bill to prohibit abortions after the 18th week of pregnancy; a bill to protect doctors from being sued if they withhold health information about a pregnancy that could cause a woman to seek an abortion; and a bill to mandate that how school curriculums address the topic of unwanted pregnancies.

The 18th week bill includes a new definition for when pregnancy begins. All of the bills passed the Senate and now head to Gov. Jan Brewer (R) for her signature or veto. Passage of the late-term abortion bill would give Arizona the earliest definition of late-term abortion in the country; most states use 20 weeks as a definition.

A sentence in the bill defines gestational age as "calculated from the first day of the last menstrual period of the pregnant woman," which would move the beginning of a pregnancy up two weeks prior to conception.

Elizabeth Nash, states issues manager for Guttmacher Institute, a reproductive health research organization in Washington, said the definition corresponds with how doctors typically determine gestational age. She said since the exact date of conception cannot be pinpointed, doctors use the day of the woman's last menstrual period to gauge the duration of a pregnancy. The method does not provide an exact date.

"It will have some impact, from what we understand there are abortions provided at that point in Arizona," Nash said. "It will reduce access."

Nash said nationally, 1.5 percent of abortions in the U.S. occur after the 21st week and 3.8 percent occur between the 16th and 20th weeks. She said the bill would violate U.S. Supreme Court rulings on abortion by mandating a cutoff date that is before viability and not having enough provisions for late-term abortions needed to protect a woman's health.

State Rep. Kimberly Yee (R-Phoenix), the bill's sponsor, was not immediately available for comment. Her assistant said that Yee, a former aide to former California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (R), was voting on the House floor.

State Rep. Matt Heinz (D-Tucson), a physician, said he did not want the state to set the gestational age since science could not provide a precise one. "I imagine it will be a legal dispute. How can a judge determine gestational age?" Heinz said. "If medical science can only determine gestational age to within 10-14 days, how can a superior court judge do it?"

The other two bills passed by the House include the state's "wrongful birth, wrongful life" bill that prohibits lawsuits against doctors who do not provide information about a fetus' health if that information could lead to an abortion. In addition, parents cannot sue on the child's behalf after birth.

The third bill requires that schools teach students that adoption and birth are the most acceptable outcomes for an unwanted pregnancy.

All three bills are now headed to Brewer's desk for her review. The governor has not announced a position on the bills, which is her practice, but her spokesman indicated that Brewer has a long commitment to pro-life issues.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/10/az-abortion-bills-arizona-gestational-age_n_1415715.html

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matreshka
by Gold Member on Apr. 12, 2012 at 1:08 PM

Wow, that makes no sense whatsoever. What is going on in AZ????

butlerro1013
by Bronze Member on Apr. 12, 2012 at 1:14 PM
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AZ has gone crazy.  This is complete and utter BS.

mommygiggles317
by Silver Member on Apr. 12, 2012 at 3:40 PM
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Quoting matreshka:

Wow, that makes no sense whatsoever. What is going on in AZ????

I think that Arizona is being used as a testing ground for certain policies.

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jaxTheMomm
by Gold Member on Apr. 12, 2012 at 3:49 PM
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As someone said about this on another forum, this is why doctors need to make medical decisions and not politicians, as they only know enough to be dangerous.

pj2becca21
by Bronze Member on Apr. 12, 2012 at 3:54 PM
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Now i love AZ more. first the green card bill, now this YEAH. 

pj2becca21
by Bronze Member on Apr. 12, 2012 at 3:56 PM

No the people of Arizona have brains and are free thinkers 

Quoting mommygiggles317:


Quoting matreshka:

Wow, that makes no sense whatsoever. What is going on in AZ????

I think that Arizona is being used as a testing ground for certain policies.


godotherightthi
by on Apr. 12, 2012 at 4:01 PM

Umm, that's a medical definition...the 40 weeks of gestation is caluclated from the first day of your last menstration.  So it is still 20 weeks.

mommygiggles317
by Silver Member on Apr. 12, 2012 at 4:03 PM
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Quoting pj2becca21:

No the people of Arizona have brains and are free thinkers 

Quoting mommygiggles317:


Quoting matreshka:

Wow, that makes no sense whatsoever. What is going on in AZ????

I think that Arizona is being used as a testing ground for certain policies.


Let's see... the white washing of American History (no ethnic studies for public school students and they are trying this on the college/university level as well); asinine "laws" that defy a woman's right to privacy; now the Great State of Arizona has legislated that conception begins two weeks BEFORE conception... yeah that's showing how much brains and free thinking goes on in Arizona... sounds kind of like indoctrination to me...

love you signExercising Knowledge, Wisdom and Understanding...

pj2becca21
by Bronze Member on Apr. 12, 2012 at 4:14 PM
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Quoting mommygiggles317:


Quoting pj2becca21:

No the people of Arizona have brains and are free thinkers 

Quoting mommygiggles317:


Quoting matreshka:

Wow, that makes no sense whatsoever. What is going on in AZ????

I think that Arizona is being used as a testing ground for certain policies.


Let's see... the white washing of American History (no ethnic studies for public school students and they are trying this on the college/university level as well); asinine "laws" that defy a woman's right to privacy; now the Great State of Arizona has legislated that conception begins two weeks BEFORE conception... yeah that's showing how much brains and free thinking goes on in Arizona... sounds kind of like indoctrination to me...


mommygiggles317
by Silver Member on Apr. 12, 2012 at 4:17 PM
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Quoting pj2becca21:

Quoting mommygiggles317:


Quoting pj2becca21:

No the people of Arizona have brains and are free thinkers 

Quoting mommygiggles317:


Quoting matreshka:

Wow, that makes no sense whatsoever. What is going on in AZ????

I think that Arizona is being used as a testing ground for certain policies.


Let's see... the white washing of American History (no ethnic studies for public school students and they are trying this on the college/university level as well); asinine "laws" that defy a woman's right to privacy; now the Great State of Arizona has legislated that conception begins two weeks BEFORE conception... yeah that's showing how much brains and free thinking goes on in Arizona... sounds kind of like indoctrination to me...


So now you resort to pictures when you have nothing relevant to say... I like you, you're funny...

love you signExercising Knowledge, Wisdom and Understanding...

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