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Oh you feel persecuted as an American Christian?

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by on May. 4, 2012 at 2:03 PM
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by on May. 5, 2012 at 5:55 PM

 Are you embarrassed that you couldn't even copy the meme correctly? LOL

Oh you feel like persecuted as an American Christian?

Quoting sweet-a-kins:

Not a damn thing wrong with it

The bigots should be embarrassed by their attitudes


Quoting erika9009:

He is pro gay marriage which is fine.  It's just his attitude about it.

He said,

"It's going to happen, whether you like it or not."

I misquoted it earlier in my post.  I have since corrected it.


Quoting lga1965:

 He is pro-gay marriage, right? Exactly what did he say that inspires you to say he was "ramming gay marriage down your throat" ? Wow. Isn't there another way to say that?


Quoting erika9009:


I used it because that is how I felt when I heard Gavin Newsom's speech back when the gay marriage debate started up.


It maybe over used now, but I still feel that way.


Quoting lga1965:


 Why do people use that "ramming it down our throats" comment? Its really old and passe and overused and really kind of icky and pornographic. Christians use that all the time.....its disgusting.


SO, if you want gays to stay out of your church, it sounds like you don't approve of people being born gay and lesbian then,right?  I thought God made all of us on earth in his image---think about it.And God wouldn't hate any of his children. We are all God's children,right?


 


 

 

 




 "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so". ~Ronald Reagan

Sisteract
by Socialist Hippie on May. 5, 2012 at 7:29 PM
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They wouldn't be ramming it down anyone's throat if those who it does not even  affect would simply, quietly accept and move.

The Mormon Church basically funded Prop 8 in CA- most of the donations coming out of the state of UT- Why the citizens of CA fell for that malarkey, I'll never know. Led to the trough by citizens of another state and a Church.

Respect, move on,  and perhaps those truly affected would not have to fight so hard for their rights.

All those persecuted American Christians who will freely get into their cars and drive to the service of their choice in the next 24 hours.

rccmom
by Gold Member on May. 5, 2012 at 7:29 PM
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I do not understand why we do not allow marriage for straight or homosexual couples. It does not make sense to me, and I have always felt it is prejudicial. Churches always have the right to not allow a couple to marry within their church. I think though that the way marriage is defined and practiced today, it is a legal contract, and there is no reason to not allow gays the same legal contracts. I honestly don't even understand why there is an argument about it.

Friday
by Platinum Member on May. 5, 2012 at 7:35 PM
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Quoting Sisteract:

They wouldn't be ramming it down anyone's throat if those who it does not even  affect would simply, quietly accept and move.

The Mormon Church basically funded Prop 8 in CA- most of the donations coming out of the state of UT- Why the citizens of CA fell for that malarkey, I'll never know. Led to the trough by citizens of another state and a Church.

Respect, move on,  and perhaps those truly affected would not have to fight so hard for their rights.

All those persecuted American Christians who will freely get into their cars and drive to the service of their choice in the next 24 hours.

Prop 8 ticked me off. They spread so much BS about it. Can you imagine the people that money could have helped instead of using it on a campaign to restrict some peoples rights.

I look forward to being an old woman, sitting in my porch swing with my vaporizer listening to 80's rock and laughing about how ridiculous this whole thing was. Marriage equality proponents will have our Loving v Virginia, just a matter of time.


H.R.H. Friday of MaryJane

imagirlgeek
by Bronze Member on May. 5, 2012 at 8:38 PM

I think it's about the money.  After Clinton passed DOMA, the GOA produced a report showing all the statutes that tie benefits to marriage.  Then in 2004, they updated it and the number had grown.  It's well over a thousand statutes.  I posted some of the categories and links to the reports on page 5 if you are interested in seeing them.

It is frustrating that the government has any say at all, imo.   

Quoting rccmom:

I do not understand why we do not allow marriage for straight or homosexual couples. It does not make sense to me, and I have always felt it is prejudicial. Churches always have the right to not allow a couple to marry within their church. I think though that the way marriage is defined and practiced today, it is a legal contract, and there is no reason to not allow gays the same legal contracts. I honestly don't even understand why there is an argument about it.


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You don't have to be judgmental and be like "Oh, he's using his freedom the wrong way!  I want him to use his freedom the way I use my freedom!"  You can't do that. You have to be tolerant.  People say "Oh no, you can't be tolerant. What if they do something you don't like?" Tolerance does not mean endorsement.  -- Ron Paul
rccmom
by Gold Member on May. 5, 2012 at 8:57 PM

Excellent point, and that I would believe. There would be a lot of money involved in gay marriage were to be recognized. 

Quoting imagirlgeek:

I think it's about the money.  After Clinton passed DOMA, the GOA produced a report showing all the statutes that tie benefits to marriage.  Then in 2004, they updated it and the number had grown.  It's well over a thousand statutes.  I posted some of the categories and links to the reports on page 5 if you are interested in seeing them.

It is frustrating that the government has any say at all, imo.   

Quoting rccmom:

I do not understand why we do not allow marriage for straight or homosexual couples. It does not make sense to me, and I have always felt it is prejudicial. Churches always have the right to not allow a couple to marry within their church. I think though that the way marriage is defined and practiced today, it is a legal contract, and there is no reason to not allow gays the same legal contracts. I honestly don't even understand why there is an argument about it.



bluespagan
by on May. 6, 2012 at 7:05 AM
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In this nation, Christianity's reach is too far.  Plain and simple, if the only grounds for your arguement against a piece of legislation, such as gay marriage, is that it goes against your religion and your God then that needs to be ignored.  Christianity and religion in general has no place in legislating what people in this nation can or cannot do.

matreshka
by Gold Member on May. 6, 2012 at 8:01 AM

I live where gay marriage is legal and have never seen any pda from same sex couples. I mostly see it from teenage heteros.

Quoting 4kidz916:

You have a good point there, I never thought of it that way.

Quoting bluerooffarm:

 I absolutely agree with the ramming it down the throats stuff, but I think that if they get treated fairly, that will minimize the "rammers."  Once they can marry and be beneficiaries, all that stuff, I think you'll see less of the in your face stuff to get attention, IMO.

Quoting 4kidz916:

I'm not opposed to gays being treated like everyone else, I'm all for that and I have nothing against their lifestyle...to each their own.   But I do agree with the ramming it down everyone's throat comment.  I remember seeing a gay couple passionatly kissing on a news story and then they turned to the camera and said something like did you see that, you'd better get used to it and you'd better like it.  Well, I don't care for that kind of public display from gay or straight couples so I don't want either ramming that display down my throat.  KWIM?

Quoting bluerooffarm:

 My standard line when I saw PDA in the hallway was to say, "That is not how your teacher (Mrs. Gdula) taught you CPR, I'm going to have to revoke your card."  I had to say it once to a gay couple.  One of them was absolutely elated that I had treated them like everyone else.  I'd like to see them just treated like everyone else.

Quoting erika9009:

I think the problem came about with the gay activists "ramming" gay marriage down everyone's throat.  That sure irked me.

I remember Gavin Newsom (mayor of San Fransico at the time) said "It's coming whether you like it or not."  He said it in such a cocky, "screw your beliefs" way that it just bugged me.

Then, a friend of mine's 8th grade daughter and her friend got detention.  Why? They were kissing their bf at a school dance.  Yet, when these same two report two GIRLS kissing in the bathrooms during school they were told to "be more tolerate!!!!!"  Worse yet, one of the kissing girls parents tried to sue my friend because of the embarrassment.  

So, you break a rule and your straight, you get detention.  You break a rule and your gay/lesbian, it's ok and the straight people need to be tolerant.  


This "ram it down your throat" mentality the activist have is really giving gay/lesbians a bad rap.

 


 



matreshka
by Gold Member on May. 6, 2012 at 8:04 AM
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I couldn't agree with this more. I am sick of people using their religion (and I'd say 100% of the time its Christianity) as their guiding principle of how this nation of many different people, faiths, and ideas should be run.

The minute something they disagree with happens they claim persecution!

Quoting bluespagan:

In this nation, Christianity's reach is too far.  Plain and simple, if the only grounds for your arguement against a piece of legislation, such as gay marriage, is that it goes against your religion and your God then that needs to be ignored.  Christianity and religion in general has no place in legislating what people in this nation can or cannot do.


matreshka
by Gold Member on May. 6, 2012 at 8:05 AM

It ticked me off too, how about spending that money for after school youth programs to keep them off the streets and out of gangs?  Prop * made same sex marriage look to be more harmful to our society than gang violence.

Quoting Friday:


Quoting Sisteract:

They wouldn't be ramming it down anyone's throat if those who it does not even  affect would simply, quietly accept and move.

The Mormon Church basically funded Prop 8 in CA- most of the donations coming out of the state of UT- Why the citizens of CA fell for that malarkey, I'll never know. Led to the trough by citizens of another state and a Church.

Respect, move on,  and perhaps those truly affected would not have to fight so hard for their rights.

All those persecuted American Christians who will freely get into their cars and drive to the service of their choice in the next 24 hours.

Prop 8 ticked me off. They spread so much BS about it. Can you imagine the people that money could have helped instead of using it on a campaign to restrict some peoples rights.

I look forward to being an old woman, sitting in my porch swing with my vaporizer listening to 80's rock and laughing about how ridiculous this whole thing was. Marriage equality proponents will have our Loving v Virginia, just a matter of time.


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