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Obama's 'Gutsy Call' on Gay Marriage Was a Cheap, Meaningless Campaign Ploy - Do you agree?

Posted by on May. 15, 2012 at 5:48 PM
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Obama's 'Gutsy Call' on Gay Marriage Was a Cheap, Meaningless Campaign Ploy

Posted by Lori Ziganto on May 15, 2012

Last week, President Obama conveniently "evolved" enough to come out for gay marriage, after a trial balloon was floated by Vice President Biden. President Obama was quick to cash in on his "evolution," immediately sending out a campaign mailer that said he was "asked a direct question and gave a direct answer." In reality, the only question he answered was if he was willing to use people as a fundraising scheme and the answer was a resounding "aww, hell yes."

President Obama does have a "laser-like focus" on one job -- his own.

 

 

President Obama continued to try to use gay people for some sweet, sweet campaign cash by calling himself "historic" and tweeting out a photo with a quote that was all about him. As usual. His website put up a section of allegedly "inspirational" stories that were actually all comments stroking President Obama's own severely inflated ego.

I wonder how gay people feel about being totally used for someone else’s end? It’s not about gay marriage, it’s all about The One ™. Even Uterine Forensic Expert Andrew Sullivan admitted as much in his swoon-filled "article" at The Daily Beast.

There was, of course, cold politics behind it. One in six of Obama’s fundraising bundlers is gay, and he needs their money. Wall Street has not backed him financially this year the way it did in 2008. A few Jewish donors have held back over Israel. And when Obama announced recently that he would not issue an executive order barring antigay discrimination for federal contractors, the gay donors all but threatened to leave him high and dry.

The President then doubled-down on the self-congratulatory hubris by co-opting gay pride for himself. No, really. It's no longer "gay pride," it's "Obama pride." Unbelievable. Except, of course, it's not; it's predictable. President Obama has never found a thing that he couldn't somehow make all about himself. 

His "evolution" was about nothing other than his own re-election. Using gay people, stirring up division, all is no big whoop to Obama as long as it allows him to cash in and further his own personal goals. His announcement changes nothing; he cannot unilaterally make laws. While pesky bitter clingers are railed at and called "barbarians" and "bigots" and "homophones" (funny how the oh-so-smart, enlightened people can't even figure out the proper false insults to hurl), at least they see through President Obama's super transparent move.

Nothing has changed except that gay people are being used and strung along for someone else's purposes. They are still unemployed. They are still paying higher health insurance premiums and are unable to "keep their plan, if they like their plan." Contrary to the apparent belief of President Obama, gay people aren't pets to be patted on the head and then told to shut up. They don't exist in some magical land separate from us all. They are part of America and are living in the same horrible economy that the rest of us are.

That is what will affect this election. It's "the economy, stupid." It's not meaningless rhetoric spouted only to stroke President Obama. Contrary to his opinion, the world does not, in fact, revolve around him.

What do you think? Do you agree?

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Jambo4
by Gold Member on May. 15, 2012 at 5:56 PM
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I know the polls reflect that sentiment.

Ednarooni160
by Eds on May. 15, 2012 at 5:56 PM
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And when Obama announced recently that he would not issue an executive order barring antigay discrimination for federal contractors, the gay donors all but threatened to leave him high and dry.

President Obama continued to try to use gay people for some sweet, sweet campaign cash by calling himself "historic"

I think Obama is the most historic "BLOW HARD" there is.  Yes, I agree.  Visions of his typical white grandmother, Trayvon could be his son, comes to mind.. He will USE anything and anyone to get votes.

lga1965
by on May. 15, 2012 at 6:52 PM
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 no. I bet he knew that he would LOSE votes .....and he is losing votes.

cbk_mom3
by on May. 15, 2012 at 10:46 PM
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Of course it was a cheap, desperate ploy. He's pandering to those he thinks will be his big contributors and voters. It'll end up doing him more harm than good.

joey125
by Silver Member on May. 15, 2012 at 10:52 PM

No I do not agree

Ginacoolidge
by on May. 16, 2012 at 2:34 AM
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Here's what happened:  A few weeks before the NC election, the result was becoming clear: Voters in NC would add an amendment to their constitution defining marriage only as a man and a woman.  When the White House saw this was coming, they knew it would present a huge problem leading up to the Democratic convention (in Charlotte, early September).  But how to handle such a problem?

  1. The President already had decided to announce support for same-sex marriage, or risk losing more of his already-shaky base (and funding!).
  2. He couldn't wait until the convention - too much turmoil, too many protests, and if the Pres announced support for same-sex marriage in July or August, it would look like he caved to gay pressure.
  3. So, the best way is to get the issue out of the way as quickly as possible - voters would have more time to forget it. 
  4. But he couldn't do it before the NC election - after the vote (with the outcome not really in doubt) it would look like he strongly campaigned against the amendment, and voters passed it anyway - He'd look like a weak loser with no influence.
  5. So, he waited until the day AFTER the NC election.  This contrasts him with NC voters, which pleases the liberal base.  It got the issue resolved as quickly as possible.  Besides, North Carolina's electoral votes were already a lost cause. 
  6. They sent Biden out on Sunday to support same-sex, then followed up on Monday with Secretary of Ed. Arne Duncan.  Biden didn't "slip up"

I don't think it was a cheap, meaningless campaign ploy.  The Obama team got screwed because they picked NC to host the convention, not knowing that voters would soundly reject same-sex marriage just four months before that convention.  They were trying to make the best of a bad situation.  And it's still a bad situation.  Some problems don't have solutions.  

Meadowchik
by Gold Member on May. 16, 2012 at 5:34 AM
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Quoting Ginacoolidge:

Here's what happened:  A few weeks before the NC election, the result was becoming clear: Voters in NC would add an amendment to their constitution defining marriage only as a man and a woman.  When the White House saw this was coming, they knew it would present a huge problem leading up to the Democratic convention (in Charlotte, early September).  But how to handle such a problem?

  1. The President already had decided to announce support for same-sex marriage, or risk losing more of his already-shaky base (and funding!).
  2. He couldn't wait until the convention - too much turmoil, too many protests, and if the Pres announced support for same-sex marriage in July or August, it would look like he caved to gay pressure.
  3. So, the best way is to get the issue out of the way as quickly as possible - voters would have more time to forget it. 
  4. But he couldn't do it before the NC election - after the vote (with the outcome not really in doubt) it would look like he strongly campaigned against the amendment, and voters passed it anyway - He'd look like a weak loser with no influence.
  5. So, he waited until the day AFTER the NC election.  This contrasts him with NC voters, which pleases the liberal base.  It got the issue resolved as quickly as possible.  Besides, North Carolina's electoral votes were already a lost cause. 
  6. They sent Biden out on Sunday to support same-sex, then followed up on Monday with Secretary of Ed. Arne Duncan.  Biden didn't "slip up"

I don't think it was a cheap, meaningless campaign ploy.  The Obama team got screwed because they picked NC to host the convention, not knowing that voters would soundly reject same-sex marriage just four months before that convention.  They were trying to make the best of a bad situation.  And it's still a bad situation.  Some problems don't have solutions.  

This makes a great deal of sense.

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Carpy
by Platinum Member on May. 16, 2012 at 5:55 AM

I agree

sweet-a-kins
by Ruby Member on May. 16, 2012 at 6:31 AM
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Yup

Sometimes politicians have to just say something that is bothering them...even though they know it will hurt them

Like when McCain defended Obama to that nutty old birth lunatic at one or his rallies...



Quoting lga1965:

 no. I bet he knew that he would LOSE votes .....and he is losing votes.

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4kidz916
by Gold Member on May. 16, 2012 at 8:05 AM
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I fully agree with it especially since it came the day after the controversial NC amendment vote and NC is a big swing state.  

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