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What's this? Obama longs for GOP rival like McCain

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WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama seems to think that the world of politics would be better if someone like John McCain were running for the White House.

The Democratic incumbent and his re-election advisers are waxing nostalgic about the Republican senator from Arizona who lost to Obama in the 2008 presidential race. They're embracing McCain as a reasonable voice on climate change and immigration, someone who took on extremism in his own party.

It's all a way of drawing a contrast with Obama's current GOP rival,Mitt Romney, and trying to convince crucial independent voters that the former Massachusetts governor is outside the mainstream.

But Obama's flattering memories of McCain conflict with their campaign clashes of 2008. Back then, Obama hammered his rival as "out of touch" with many of the problems facing people in the United States.

Today's platitudes also conceal the reality of Obama's current dynamic with McCain. The senator is one of the president's staunchest critics on everything from health care to foreign policy, and he's a vocal Romney supporter.

To hear Obama tell it now, the McCain who ran against him in 2008 was an example of a principled Republican who knew how to reach across the aisle. The implication from Obama is that those qualities simply don't apply to Romney.

"John McCain believed in climate change," Obama told supporters at a fundraiser in Minneapolis Friday. "John believed in campaign finance reform. He believed in immigration reform. I mean, there were some areas where you saw some overlap. In this election, the Republican Party has moved in a fundamentally different direction."

Obama's take on McCain has become a standard part of his fundraising appeal to donors. As the general election heats up, the Obama campaign is relishing more opportunities to try to turn its former foe into an asset.

When Romney didn't condemn his supporter Donald Trump for raising more questions this week about the president's citizenship, the Obama campaign dug up old video clips of McCain correcting supporters in the 2008 who said they were scared of Obama and one clip of a supporter who thought he was an "Arab."

"As the Republican nominee, John McCain stood up to the voices of extremism in his party," an Obama Internet video says. It then asks why Romney won't do the same.

The 90-second video ends with words on the screen that read: "McCain and Romney: Two Republican nominees, only one willing to lead."

Brian Rogers, a spokesman for McCain, said Friday that if McCain and Obama "share so many priorities and are in such agreement, why didn't the president or his staff ever reach out to Sen. McCain to work on them?"

Not surprisingly, veterans of the 2008 campaign are split down party lines over whether the 2012 Obama campaign's strategic embrace of its former rival makes sense.

"They're not announcing that they're embracing all of (McCain's) positions on issues," said Jennifer Psaki, a former Obama White House official who also worked on the president's 2008 campaign. "But they are highlighting the standards that John McCain held himself to that Mitt Romney has not."

Steve Schmidt, a senior strategist to McCain's 2008 campaign, said voters will see through the Obama team's attempts to use the former GOP nominee to paint the party's current standard-bearer as an extremist.

"It's very difficult to make the case that Mitt Romney is a right-wing nut, particularly because a lot of real right-wing nuts have spent a lot of time saying Romney's not one of them," Schmidt said.

Like Romney, McCain faced criticism from Democrats in 2008 who said the independent-minded senator had kowtowed to the conservative wing of the party in order to claim the GOP nomination.

The nearly four years since Obama and McCain's electoral face-off have been filled with interactions that the president probably won't be bringing up at campaign fundraisers or using in a campaign video.

In a meeting during the 2010 health care debate, McCain criticized how Democrats were constructing the legislation. Obama cut him off, saying "We're not campaigning anymore. The election is over."

McCain responded: "I'm reminded of that every day."

McCain has characterized Obama as often being too passive on foreign policy, and in recent days, said it was "embarrassing" that the United States wasn't doing more to stop the bloodshed in Syria.

The Obama and McCain conflicts aside, Schmidt said he's not surprised to see his former boss back in the electoral mix: "The last guy is never more popular than after there's a new guy."

http://news.yahoo.com/whats-obama-longs-gop-rival-mccain-131202218.html

by on Jun. 4, 2012 at 7:51 AM
Replies (11-20):
asfriend
by on Jun. 4, 2012 at 11:19 AM

My god, he was never going to go with Liberman, Liberman is a lifelong Democrat who had alreay lost as a VP on the Democratic ticket, Good grief.

Quoting NWP:

Maybe..but I know what they mean...this current crop of republicans has me missing McCain too. With the exception of his aggressive foreign policy ideas, he was a pretty good moderate. I may have even considered him if he had gone with his gut and chose Lieberman instead of Palin. However, he refused to address that there are problems with our health care system and that was my main problem with him.


asfriend
by on Jun. 4, 2012 at 11:22 AM


Quoting Citygirlk:

having MaCain on Obamas staff I think would be pretty cool. I didnt have any huge problems with him being elected as I do now with romney now. But my big thing was and I think it was for a lot of people was sarah palin. You dont just pick a vp for votes you pick someone who can do the job.

Having McCain on obama's staff?

WTF are you talking about?

jcrew6
by Jenney on Jun. 4, 2012 at 11:40 AM
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Obama's Track Record as Politician is at best noted as PRESENT.  Obama cannot run on his Presidential Record. He has No Professional record. His Educational Record is sealed.  Notice his campaigning does not brag about what he has done. Why is that?

NWP
by Guerilla Girl on Jun. 4, 2012 at 11:45 AM

I guess you have a selective memory.

McCain went against his gut...if he had followed his instincts, the election may have come out different. Palin tanked the election. This is not my opinion.

BTW, at the time, Lieberman was not a democrat. He was an independant. Not that it matters..but you should get your facts straight,

Conservative Ire Pushed McCain From Lieberman

Stephen Crowley/The New York Times

John McCain and Sara Palin at a rally in Washington, Pa.

Published: August 30, 2008

WASHINGTON — In the end, the choice of his running mate said more about Senator John McCain and his image of himself than it did about Sarah Palin, the little-known governor of Alaska whose selection has shaken up the presidential race.

For weeks, advisers close to the campaign said, Mr. McCain had wanted to name as his running mate his good friend Senator Joseph I. Lieberman of Connecticut, the Democrat turned independent. But by the end of last weekend, the outrage from Christian conservatives over the possibility that Mr. McCain would fill out the Republican ticket with Mr. Lieberman, a supporter of abortion rights, had become too intense to be ignored.

With time running out, and after a long meeting with his inner circle in Phoenix, Mr. McCain finally picked up the phone last Sunday and reached Ms. Palin at the Alaska State Fair. Although the campaign’s polling on Mr. McCain’s potential running mates was inconclusive on the selection of Ms. Palin — virtually no one had heard of her, a McCain adviser said — the governor, who opposes abortion, had glowing reviews from influential social conservatives.

read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/31/us/politics/31reconstruct.html

Quoting asfriend:

My god, he was never going to go with Liberman, Liberman is a lifelong Democrat who had alreay lost as a VP on the Democratic ticket, Good grief.

Quoting NWP:

Maybe..but I know what they mean...this current crop of republicans has me missing McCain too. With the exception of his aggressive foreign policy ideas, he was a pretty good moderate. I may have even considered him if he had gone with his gut and chose Lieberman instead of Palin. However, he refused to address that there are problems with our health care system and that was my main problem with him.




Citygirlk
by on Jun. 4, 2012 at 11:53 AM
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What the HELL are you talking about?? so are you saying that the killing of the master mind behind 9/11 which killed over 2000 american people should not be a victory.

Ok, so how about you explain what it should be.


Quoting imamomzilla:

 And yet, your side will claim Bin Laden's death a victory.


In THAT case the 'ends justify the means', right?


 


 


Quoting _Kissy_:

Yea, because blowing up $1 tents with billion dollar bombs isn't embarrassing


Quoting imamomzilla:


 I'll bet. Let's hope Romney doesn't "go rouge"!



Quote:



"McCain has characterized Obama as often being too passive on foreign policy, and in recent days, said it was "embarrassing" ....


 

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Citygirlk
by on Jun. 4, 2012 at 11:56 AM
Smart woman

Quoting sarebear31976:

I like McCain.  I didn't vote for him because of Sarah Palin

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NWP
by Guerilla Girl on Jun. 4, 2012 at 12:02 PM

They are just mad because their guy Bush Jr who got us in the mess in the first place couldn't do this...Instead of seeing it as a victory for America, they want to pout about the fact that Obama was the POTUS when we finally got him.

This response from the conservative right just cemented my opinion that many of them would rather see America fail than support a moderate agenda.

Quoting Citygirlk:

What the HELL are you talking about?? so are you saying that the killing of the master mind behind 9/11 which killed over 2000 american people should not be a victory.

Ok, so how about you explain what it should be.


Quoting imamomzilla:

 And yet, your side will claim Bin Laden's death a victory.


In THAT case the 'ends justify the means', right?


 




asfriend
by on Jun. 4, 2012 at 1:24 PM

Too bad your ignorance is not selective, maybe you could select not to have it sometime.

I specificaly wrote, "lifelong Democrat" so that no one from the dumgmasses crowd would do the "ha ha ha ha he was an indpendent, ha ha ha ha dance.  Yes he was pushed in to the general election as an Independent  by the radicals in his own party, but he is, was, and always will be a Democrat. Sometimes one just can't idiot proof something.

He was never going to select Leiberman, this was just an attempt to show how open minded and moderate he was. 

Quoting NWP:

I guess you have a selective memory.

McCain went against his gut...if he had followed his instincts, the election may have come out different. Palin tanked the election. This is not my opinion.

BTW, at the time, Lieberman was not a democrat. He was an independant. Not that it matters..but you should get your facts straight,

Conservative Ire Pushed McCain From Lieberman

Stephen Crowley/The New York Times

John McCain and Sara Palin at a rally in Washington, Pa.

Published: August 30, 2008

WASHINGTON — In the end, the choice of his running mate said more about Senator John McCain and his image of himself than it did about Sarah Palin, the little-known governor of Alaska whose selection has shaken up the presidential race.

For weeks, advisers close to the campaign said, Mr. McCain had wanted to name as his running mate his good friend Senator Joseph I. Lieberman of Connecticut, the Democrat turned independent. But by the end of last weekend, the outrage from Christian conservatives over the possibility that Mr. McCain would fill out the Republican ticket with Mr. Lieberman, a supporter of abortion rights, had become too intense to be ignored.

With time running out, and after a long meeting with his inner circle in Phoenix, Mr. McCain finally picked up the phone last Sunday and reached Ms. Palin at the Alaska State Fair. Although the campaign’s polling on Mr. McCain’s potential running mates was inconclusive on the selection of Ms. Palin — virtually no one had heard of her, a McCain adviser said — the governor, who opposes abortion, had glowing reviews from influential social conservatives.

read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/31/us/politics/31reconstruct.html

Quoting asfriend:

My god, he was never going to go with Liberman, Liberman is a lifelong Democrat who had alreay lost as a VP on the Democratic ticket, Good grief.

Quoting NWP:

Maybe..but I know what they mean...this current crop of republicans has me missing McCain too. With the exception of his aggressive foreign policy ideas, he was a pretty good moderate. I may have even considered him if he had gone with his gut and chose Lieberman instead of Palin. However, he refused to address that there are problems with our health care system and that was my main problem with him.

 



NWP
by Guerilla Girl on Jun. 4, 2012 at 1:41 PM

Nice try to CYA on your mistake;)

You may need to work a little harder on that satire. It is starting to get a bit one-note..like you have nothing intellectual to offer.

Quoting asfriend:

Too bad your ignorance is not selective, maybe you could select not to have it sometime.

I specificaly wrote, "lifelong Democrat" so that no one from the dumgmasses crowd would do the "ha ha ha ha he was an indpendent, ha ha ha ha dance.  Yes he was pushed in to the general election as an Independent  by the radicals in his own party, but he is, was, and always will be a Democrat. Sometimes one just can't idiot proof something.

He was never going to select Leiberman, this was just an attempt to show how open minded and moderate he was. 

Quoting NWP:

I guess you have a selective memory.

McCain went against his gut...if he had followed his instincts, the election may have come out different. Palin tanked the election. This is not my opinion.

BTW, at the time, Lieberman was not a democrat. He was an independant. Not that it matters..but you should get your facts straight,


Conservative Ire Pushed McCain From Lieberman

Stephen Crowley/The New York Times

John McCain and Sara Palin at a rally in Washington, Pa.

Published: August 30, 2008

WASHINGTON — In the end, the choice of his running mate said more about Senator John McCain and his image of himself than it did about Sarah Palin, the little-known governor of Alaska whose selection has shaken up the presidential race.


For weeks, advisers close to the campaign said, Mr. McCain had wanted to name as his running mate his good friend Senator Joseph I. Lieberman of Connecticut, the Democrat turned independent. But by the end of last weekend, the outrage from Christian conservatives over the possibility that Mr. McCain would fill out the Republican ticket with Mr. Lieberman, a supporter of abortion rights, had become too intense to be ignored.

With time running out, and after a long meeting with his inner circle in Phoenix, Mr. McCain finally picked up the phone last Sunday and reached Ms. Palin at the Alaska State Fair. Although the campaign’s polling on Mr. McCain’s potential running mates was inconclusive on the selection of Ms. Palin — virtually no one had heard of her, a McCain adviser said — the governor, who opposes abortion, had glowing reviews from influential social conservatives.

read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/31/us/politics/31reconstruct.html

Quoting asfriend:

My god, he was never going to go with Liberman, Liberman is a lifelong Democrat who had alreay lost as a VP on the Democratic ticket, Good grief.

Quoting NWP:

Maybe..but I know what they mean...this current crop of republicans has me missing McCain too. With the exception of his aggressive foreign policy ideas, he was a pretty good moderate. I may have even considered him if he had gone with his gut and chose Lieberman instead of Palin. However, he refused to address that there are problems with our health care system and that was my main problem with him.






asfriend
by on Jun. 4, 2012 at 1:44 PM

Typical Liberal:

There are really are no words for how stupid you are, and yet you are so out of it, you think your a genius.

 


 

Quoting NWP:

Nice try to CYA on your mistake;)

You may need to work a little harder on that satire. It is starting to get a bit one-note..like you have nothing intellectual to offer.

Quoting asfriend:

Too bad your ignorance is not selective, maybe you could select not to have it sometime.

I specificaly wrote, "lifelong Democrat" so that no one from the dumgmasses crowd would do the "ha ha ha ha he was an indpendent, ha ha ha ha dance.  Yes he was pushed in to the general election as an Independent  by the radicals in his own party, but he is, was, and always will be a Democrat. Sometimes one just can't idiot proof something.

He was never going to select Leiberman, this was just an attempt to show how open minded and moderate he was. 

Quoting NWP:

I guess you have a selective memory.

McCain went against his gut...if he had followed his instincts, the election may have come out different. Palin tanked the election. This is not my opinion.

BTW, at the time, Lieberman was not a democrat. He was an independant. Not that it matters..but you should get your facts straight,


Conservative Ire Pushed McCain From Lieberman

Stephen Crowley/The New York Times

John McCain and Sara Palin at a rally in Washington, Pa.

Published: August 30, 2008

WASHINGTON — In the end, the choice of his running mate said more about Senator John McCain and his image of himself than it did about Sarah Palin, the little-known governor of Alaska whose selection has shaken up the presidential race.


For weeks, advisers close to the campaign said, Mr. McCain had wanted to name as his running mate his good friend Senator Joseph I. Lieberman of Connecticut, the Democrat turned independent. But by the end of last weekend, the outrage from Christian conservatives over the possibility that Mr. McCain would fill out the Republican ticket with Mr. Lieberman, a supporter of abortion rights, had become too intense to be ignored.

With time running out, and after a long meeting with his inner circle in Phoenix, Mr. McCain finally picked up the phone last Sunday and reached Ms. Palin at the Alaska State Fair. Although the campaign’s polling on Mr. McCain’s potential running mates was inconclusive on the selection of Ms. Palin — virtually no one had heard of her, a McCain adviser said — the governor, who opposes abortion, had glowing reviews from influential social conservatives.

read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/31/us/politics/31reconstruct.html

Quoting asfriend:

My god, he was never going to go with Liberman, Liberman is a lifelong Democrat who had alreay lost as a VP on the Democratic ticket, Good grief.

Quoting NWP:

Maybe..but I know what they mean...this current crop of republicans has me missing McCain too. With the exception of his aggressive foreign policy ideas, he was a pretty good moderate. I may have even considered him if he had gone with his gut and chose Lieberman instead of Palin. However, he refused to address that there are problems with our health care system and that was my main problem with him.

 


 



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