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Mitt Romney speaks to Fox News

Presumptive Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney on Tuesday said the notion that he wanted to cut government jobs like teachers and firefighters was "completely absurd."

During an interview with Romney on Fox News, co-host Brian Kilmeade noted that the Obama campaign had been hammering the GOP hopeful for saying that it was time to "cut back on government," citing the president's call to hire "more firemen, more policeman, more teachers."

"That's a very strange accusation," Romney insisted. "Of course, teachers and firemen and policemen are hired at the local level and also by states. The federal government doesn't pay for teachers, firefighters or policemen."

 

"So obviously that's completely absurd," he added. "He's got a new idea, though, and that is to have another stimulus and to have the federal government send money to try and bail out cities and states. It didn't work the first time. It certainly wouldn't work the second time."

At a campaign stop in Iowa on Friday, Romney had blasted Obama for pushing Congress to fund more teachers, firefighters and police.

"He wants to add more to government," the former Massachusetts governor charged. "He wants another stimulus. He wants to hire more government workers. He says we need more firemen, more policeman, more teachers."

"Did he not get the message of Wisconsin? The American people did! It's time for us to cut back on government!"

Former New Hampshire Gov. John Sununu (R), who is the chairman of Romney's national steering committee, on Monday defended the candidate's "wisdom" that state and local government needed to "cut back" on teachers, firefighters and police.

"There are municipalities, there are states where there is flight of population," Sununu told MSNBC host Chris Jansing. "And as the population goes down, you need fewer teachers."

 

"If there's movement to the suburbs, those teachers and policeman are needed somewhere," Jansing pointed out.

"If there's fewer kids in the classroom, the taxpayers really do want to hear that there will be fewer teachers," Sununu insisted. "Absolutely."

Watch this video from Fox News' Fox & Friends via Think Progress, broadcast June 11, 2012.

by on Jun. 12, 2012 at 2:55 PM
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Meadowchik
by Gold Member on Jun. 13, 2012 at 1:57 AM


Quoting sarebear31976:


WASHINGTON--(BUSINESS WIRE)--http://finance.yahoo.com/news/romney-opposes-fire-fighter-public-185300887.html

Fire fighters today are jumping into the Republican nomination process with a new ad highlightingMitt Romney’s opposition to critical public safety programs.

The ad, produced by the International Association of Fire Fighters, points out that Romney opposes the Staffing for Adequate Fire and Emergency Response [SAFER] program, which has saved thousands of fire fighter and paramedic jobs and ensured that public safety remains strong in Illinois and across the country.

“It is important for Illinois voters to know Romney’s poor record on public safety,” International Association of Fire Fighters General President Harold Schaitberger said.

Romney also opposes FIRE Act grants, which provide critical funding to communities for life saving equipment and apparatus. As governor of Massachusetts, Romney repeatedly attempted to cut local aid to communities, jeopardizing public safety and safe staffing. He also attempted to strip away the collective bargaining rights of fire fighters in the state.

“The SAFER program has proven to be invaluable to fire departments facing layoffs during the current economic downturn. On the eve of the Illinois primary, we must let voters know that if Mitt Romney has his way, he will eliminate a successful public safety program that makes communities safer by keeping fire fighters on the frontlines,” Schaitberger said.

The SAFER program has put more than 5,000 fire fighters back to work across the country, giving a much-needed boost to public safety in countless struggling communities. In Illinois, the Federal Emergency Management Agency [FEMA] provided fire departments $10.2 million in grants to hire or retain fire fighters last year.

Smells like a union doing, sadly, what some unions do: lies and distortions.  I bet that Romney opposed those grants and that program because he already had fire safety legislation underway:

DFS Press Releases

 

Photo of Governor Mitt Romney standing at a podium.

Romney Signs Into Law
Landmark Fire Safety Legislation

On August 17, 2004, Governor Mitt Romney signed into law the most comprehensive fire safety legislation since the Coconut Grove fire in 1942, keeping his promise to take action to prevent tragedies like the 2003 Station nightclub fire in Rhode Island.

"I am proud to sign the most far-reaching overhaul of the state's fire safety laws in over sixty years," said Romney. "There's an old saying that those who don't learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them. In Massachusetts, we learned tremendously important lessons from the tragedy of The Station Nightclub fire."

The Station nightclub fire occurred on February 20, 2003 in West Warwick, Rhode Island. With 100 dead and almost 200 injured, it was one of the deadliest fires in the United States since the 1977 Southgate, Kentucky Beverly Hills Supper Club fire that claimed 165 lives. The worst nightclub fire was November 28, 1942 in Boston, Massachusetts at the Coconut Grove, where 492 died after paper decorations caught fire.

On April 3, 2003, Governor Mitt Romney directed the Secretary of Public Safety to create the Task Force on Fire & Building Safety, and charged the group with making recommendations to improve the safety of public assembly buildings. Last September, Romney praised the work of a 32-member panel, which developed a complete report with recommendations that were implemented in this piece of legislation.

"Massachusetts is a safer state because of their extraordinary dedication and unceasing efforts. I'm honored to stand here today with members of the Fire Safety Task Force, legislators, and relatives of the victims from the Station Nightclub tragedy." added Romney.

"Let there be no misunderstanding here, this was a long struggle that turned into a battle and this time the good guys won," said James Gahan, who lost his son at The Station nightclub and member of the taskforce.

State Fire Marshal Stephen D. Coan said, "Today we pay lasting tribute to those who lost their lives in West Warwick by the enactment of these sweeping changes to fire safety in Massachusetts. While sprinklers are the cornerstone of this legislation, it goes much further and creates a safety net for the public."

Holyoke Fire Chief David A. LaFond, President, Fire Chiefs' Association of Massachusetts, said, "The Massachusetts fire services pledges to take the tools and resources in this law and do everything in our power to turn the tide of history to prevent a similar tragedy from occurring our watch."

Thomas G. Gatzunis, Commissioner of Public Safety, said "This legislation is a result of the cooperative efforts of fire and building officials. Together we are working to make Massachusetts a safer place for all who live and visit here."

Highlights of H. 4550, An Act Relative to Fire Safety in the Commonwealth:

  • Mandates sprinklers in nightclubs with an occupancy of 100 persons or more.
  • Appropriates $10 million for municipalities to assist in providing firefighter safety equipment and as well as help with certain personnel and overtime expenditures incurred by departments.
  • Establishes an accelerated tax depreciation deduction for automatic sprinkler systems required to be installed as a retrofit in existing nightclubs, discotheques, dance halls, and bars.
  • Establishes specific criminal penalties for certain dangerous conditions in a public assembly building including: blocked ingress or egress; failure to maintain or shutting off fire protection systems; storing flammables or explosives or use of fireworks or pyrotechnics without a permit and exceeding occupancy limits. The first infraction will result in a fine of not more than $5,000 and/or by imprisonment of not more than 2 1/2 years. Subsequent infractions will result in a fine of not more than $25,000 and/or by imprisonment of up to five years.
  • Creates a specific statutory crime for those individuals who violate provisions of the state building or fire codes when a violation results in significant injury or death. Violations will result in a fine of not more than $25,000 and/or imprisonment of up to five years.
  • Restores the Student Awareness of Fire Education or SAFE Program , which helps educate children about fire safety awareness.

 

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Mass.Gov® is a registered service mark of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.

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sarebear31976
by on Jun. 13, 2012 at 8:23 AM

except that my article is from march of this year and yours is from 2004.  Firefighters and other public safety people are having a hard time seeing this as a good thing.  Safer grants are important, especially in areas that have recently passed a property tax cap like ours.  Those grants are what are keeping fire stations open and firefighters employed.  Not having the money to maintain equipment and train people costs lives.  

Quoting Meadowchik:


Quoting sarebear31976:


WASHINGTON--(BUSINESS WIRE)--http://finance.yahoo.com/news/romney-opposes-fire-fighter-public-185300887.html

Fire fighters today are jumping into the Republican nomination process with a new ad highlightingMitt Romney’s opposition to critical public safety programs.

The ad, produced by the International Association of Fire Fighters, points out that Romney opposes the Staffing for Adequate Fire and Emergency Response [SAFER] program, which has saved thousands of fire fighter and paramedic jobs and ensured that public safety remains strong in Illinois and across the country.

“It is important for Illinois voters to know Romney’s poor record on public safety,” International Association of Fire Fighters General President Harold Schaitberger said.

Romney also opposes FIRE Act grants, which provide critical funding to communities for life saving equipment and apparatus. As governor of Massachusetts, Romney repeatedly attempted to cut local aid to communities, jeopardizing public safety and safe staffing. He also attempted to strip away the collective bargaining rights of fire fighters in the state.

“The SAFER program has proven to be invaluable to fire departments facing layoffs during the current economic downturn. On the eve of the Illinois primary, we must let voters know that if Mitt Romney has his way, he will eliminate a successful public safety program that makes communities safer by keeping fire fighters on the frontlines,” Schaitberger said.

The SAFER program has put more than 5,000 fire fighters back to work across the country, giving a much-needed boost to public safety in countless struggling communities. In Illinois, the Federal Emergency Management Agency [FEMA] provided fire departments $10.2 million in grants to hire or retain fire fighters last year.

Smells like a union doing, sadly, what some unions do: lies and distortions.  I bet that Romney opposed those grants and that program because he already had fire safety legislation underway:

DFS Press Releases


Photo of Governor Mitt Romney standing at a podium.

Romney Signs Into Law
Landmark Fire Safety Legislation

On August 17, 2004, Governor Mitt Romney signed into law the most comprehensive fire safety legislation since the Coconut Grove fire in 1942, keeping his promise to take action to prevent tragedies like the 2003 Station nightclub fire in Rhode Island.

"I am proud to sign the most far-reaching overhaul of the state's fire safety laws in over sixty years," said Romney. "There's an old saying that those who don't learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them. In Massachusetts, we learned tremendously important lessons from the tragedy of The Station Nightclub fire."

The Station nightclub fire occurred on February 20, 2003 in West Warwick, Rhode Island. With 100 dead and almost 200 injured, it was one of the deadliest fires in the United States since the 1977 Southgate, Kentucky Beverly Hills Supper Club fire that claimed 165 lives. The worst nightclub fire was November 28, 1942 in Boston, Massachusetts at the Coconut Grove, where 492 died after paper decorations caught fire.

On April 3, 2003, Governor Mitt Romney directed the Secretary of Public Safety to create the Task Force on Fire & Building Safety, and charged the group with making recommendations to improve the safety of public assembly buildings. Last September, Romney praised the work of a 32-member panel, which developed a complete report with recommendations that were implemented in this piece of legislation.

"Massachusetts is a safer state because of their extraordinary dedication and unceasing efforts. I'm honored to stand here today with members of the Fire Safety Task Force, legislators, and relatives of the victims from the Station Nightclub tragedy." added Romney.

"Let there be no misunderstanding here, this was a long struggle that turned into a battle and this time the good guys won," said James Gahan, who lost his son at The Station nightclub and member of the taskforce.

State Fire Marshal Stephen D. Coan said, "Today we pay lasting tribute to those who lost their lives in West Warwick by the enactment of these sweeping changes to fire safety in Massachusetts. While sprinklers are the cornerstone of this legislation, it goes much further and creates a safety net for the public."

Holyoke Fire Chief David A. LaFond, President, Fire Chiefs' Association of Massachusetts, said, "The Massachusetts fire services pledges to take the tools and resources in this law and do everything in our power to turn the tide of history to prevent a similar tragedy from occurring our watch."

Thomas G. Gatzunis, Commissioner of Public Safety, said "This legislation is a result of the cooperative efforts of fire and building officials. Together we are working to make Massachusetts a safer place for all who live and visit here."

Highlights of H. 4550, An Act Relative to Fire Safety in the Commonwealth:

  • Mandates sprinklers in nightclubs with an occupancy of 100 persons or more.
  • Appropriates $10 million for municipalities to assist in providing firefighter safety equipment and as well as help with certain personnel and overtime expenditures incurred by departments.
  • Establishes an accelerated tax depreciation deduction for automatic sprinkler systems required to be installed as a retrofit in existing nightclubs, discotheques, dance halls, and bars.
  • Establishes specific criminal penalties for certain dangerous conditions in a public assembly building including: blocked ingress or egress; failure to maintain or shutting off fire protection systems; storing flammables or explosives or use of fireworks or pyrotechnics without a permit and exceeding occupancy limits. The first infraction will result in a fine of not more than $5,000 and/or by imprisonment of not more than 2 1/2 years. Subsequent infractions will result in a fine of not more than $25,000 and/or by imprisonment of up to five years.
  • Creates a specific statutory crime for those individuals who violate provisions of the state building or fire codes when a violation results in significant injury or death. Violations will result in a fine of not more than $25,000 and/or imprisonment of up to five years.
  • Restores the Student Awareness of Fire Education or SAFE Program , which helps educate children about fire safety awareness.


Complementary Content

© 2012 Commonwealth of Massachusetts.
Mass.Gov® is a registered service mark of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.

http://www.mass.gov/eopss/agencies/dfs/dfs2/news-events/fire-safety-legislation.html


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matreshka
by Gold Member on Jun. 13, 2012 at 9:12 AM

When he goes off message as fed to him by Bush II's top advisers he shows his true colors, then has to make an apology to Fox News.

Quoting MizSandy:

  Willard speaks the truth then says I didn't mean what you heard me say.

The Young Turks - Obama 2012 


Meadowchik
by Gold Member on Jun. 13, 2012 at 9:15 AM

 Um, didn't you notice that your article was attacking Romney for his positions as Governor, right?  I just provided a refute for their claims. In fact, his work as Governor confirms his position and the fact that the bulk of firefighter hires are NOT done federally and therefore NOT a federal issue.  So Romney's actions before as Governor stand as a direct refutation against criticisms against him TODAY.  :)

It should be noted that the better the economy is allowed to grow, the more states and local governnments will be able to fund their employees.

Quoting sarebear31976:

except that my article is from march of this year and yours is from 2004.  Firefighters and other public safety people are having a hard time seeing this as a good thing.  Safer grants are important, especially in areas that have recently passed a property tax cap like ours.  Those grants are what are keeping fire stations open and firefighters employed.  Not having the money to maintain equipment and train people costs lives.  

Quoting Meadowchik:


Quoting sarebear31976:

 

WASHINGTON--(BUSINESS WIRE)--http://finance.yahoo.com/news/romney-opposes-fire-fighter-public-185300887.html

Fire fighters today are jumping into the Republican nomination process with a new ad highlightingMitt Romney’s opposition to critical public safety programs.

The ad, produced by the International Association of Fire Fighters, points out that Romney opposes the Staffing for Adequate Fire and Emergency Response [SAFER] program, which has saved thousands of fire fighter and paramedic jobs and ensured that public safety remains strong in Illinois and across the country.

“It is important for Illinois voters to know Romney’s poor record on public safety,” International Association of Fire Fighters General President Harold Schaitberger said.

Romney also opposes FIRE Act grants, which provide critical funding to communities for life saving equipment and apparatus. As governor of Massachusetts, Romney repeatedly attempted to cut local aid to communities, jeopardizing public safety and safe staffing. He also attempted to strip away the collective bargaining rights of fire fighters in the state.

“The SAFER program has proven to be invaluable to fire departments facing layoffs during the current economic downturn. On the eve of the Illinois primary, we must let voters know that if Mitt Romney has his way, he will eliminate a successful public safety program that makes communities safer by keeping fire fighters on the frontlines,” Schaitberger said.

The SAFER program has put more than 5,000 fire fighters back to work across the country, giving a much-needed boost to public safety in countless struggling communities. In Illinois, the Federal Emergency Management Agency [FEMA] provided fire departments $10.2 million in grants to hire or retain fire fighters last year.

Smells like a union doing, sadly, what some unions do: lies and distortions.  I bet that Romney opposed those grants and that program because he already had fire safety legislation underway:

DFS Press Releases

 

Photo of Governor Mitt Romney standing at a podium.

Romney Signs Into Law
Landmark Fire Safety Legislation

On August 17, 2004, Governor Mitt Romney signed into law the most comprehensive fire safety legislation since the Coconut Grove fire in 1942, keeping his promise to take action to prevent tragedies like the 2003 Station nightclub fire in Rhode Island.

"I am proud to sign the most far-reaching overhaul of the state's fire safety laws in over sixty years," said Romney. "There's an old saying that those who don't learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them. In Massachusetts, we learned tremendously important lessons from the tragedy of The Station Nightclub fire."

The Station nightclub fire occurred on February 20, 2003 in West Warwick, Rhode Island. With 100 dead and almost 200 injured, it was one of the deadliest fires in the United States since the 1977 Southgate, Kentucky Beverly Hills Supper Club fire that claimed 165 lives. The worst nightclub fire was November 28, 1942 in Boston, Massachusetts at the Coconut Grove, where 492 died after paper decorations caught fire.

On April 3, 2003, Governor Mitt Romney directed the Secretary of Public Safety to create the Task Force on Fire & Building Safety, and charged the group with making recommendations to improve the safety of public assembly buildings. Last September, Romney praised the work of a 32-member panel, which developed a complete report with recommendations that were implemented in this piece of legislation.

"Massachusetts is a safer state because of their extraordinary dedication and unceasing efforts. I'm honored to stand here today with members of the Fire Safety Task Force, legislators, and relatives of the victims from the Station Nightclub tragedy." added Romney.

"Let there be no misunderstanding here, this was a long struggle that turned into a battle and this time the good guys won," said James Gahan, who lost his son at The Station nightclub and member of the taskforce.

State Fire Marshal Stephen D. Coan said, "Today we pay lasting tribute to those who lost their lives in West Warwick by the enactment of these sweeping changes to fire safety in Massachusetts. While sprinklers are the cornerstone of this legislation, it goes much further and creates a safety net for the public."

Holyoke Fire Chief David A. LaFond, President, Fire Chiefs' Association of Massachusetts, said, "The Massachusetts fire services pledges to take the tools and resources in this law and do everything in our power to turn the tide of history to prevent a similar tragedy from occurring our watch."

Thomas G. Gatzunis, Commissioner of Public Safety, said "This legislation is a result of the cooperative efforts of fire and building officials. Together we are working to make Massachusetts a safer place for all who live and visit here."

Highlights of H. 4550, An Act Relative to Fire Safety in the Commonwealth:

  • Mandates sprinklers in nightclubs with an occupancy of 100 persons or more.
  • Appropriates $10 million for municipalities to assist in providing firefighter safety equipment and as well as help with certain personnel and overtime expenditures incurred by departments.
  • Establishes an accelerated tax depreciation deduction for automatic sprinkler systems required to be installed as a retrofit in existing nightclubs, discotheques, dance halls, and bars.
  • Establishes specific criminal penalties for certain dangerous conditions in a public assembly building including: blocked ingress or egress; failure to maintain or shutting off fire protection systems; storing flammables or explosives or use of fireworks or pyrotechnics without a permit and exceeding occupancy limits. The first infraction will result in a fine of not more than $5,000 and/or by imprisonment of not more than 2 1/2 years. Subsequent infractions will result in a fine of not more than $25,000 and/or by imprisonment of up to five years.
  • Creates a specific statutory crime for those individuals who violate provisions of the state building or fire codes when a violation results in significant injury or death. Violations will result in a fine of not more than $25,000 and/or imprisonment of up to five years.
  • Restores the Student Awareness of Fire Education or SAFE Program , which helps educate children about fire safety awareness.

 

Complementary Content

© 2012 Commonwealth of Massachusetts.
Mass.Gov® is a registered service mark of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.

http://www.mass.gov/eopss/agencies/dfs/dfs2/news-events/fire-safety-legislation.html


 

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Meadowchik
by Gold Member on Jun. 13, 2012 at 9:24 AM

 Please, Romney did not say he wants to cut teachers and firefighters.  Obama is trying to draw false conclusions to pin a false opinion on Romney, and that is dishonest.

Quoting matreshka:

When he goes off message as fed to him by Bush II's top advisers he shows his true colors, then has to make an apology to Fox News.

The most pressing social issue today is the economy

Visit Mitt Romney for President, CafeMom Group

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