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Pro-Lifer Romney Says Killing Embryos Is Okay

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Pro-Lifer Romney Says Killing Embryos Is Okay

July 2, 2012
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For the purpose of clarification, an embryo is defined as: An organism in its early stages of development, especially before it has reached a distinctively recognizable form.

Flip-flopping Romney is going to have some explaining to do, again, after his recent statements to CNSNews.com about destroying unused embryos from in vitro fertilization (IVF) where he stated, “I would, I would not outlaw it… I would allow, I would allow private laboratories and private institutions–as we currently do, and as the president does as well–to use these so-called surplus or embryos to be discarded.” Discarded is “killed”.

In February 2005, William B. Hurlbut, a dedicated pro-lifer and physician and professor at Stanford University Medical Center Neuroscience Institute met with Romney for several hours. Dr. Hurlbut adamantly stated on a pro-life lifeslitenews.com , “He [Mitt Romney] declared himself pro-life and has repeatedly done so since that time.”

Not true. If it is true that Romney is pro-life and he has repeatedly affirmed that since 2005 [Romney himself states that he has been pro-life since November 2004], how can Romney rationalize the condoning of killing embryos less than two months ago? It is also an interesting fact that on May 16th Romney held a $50,000-a-plate fundraiser at the residence of Phil Frost, who is the executive of Teva Pharmaceuticals that makes the Morning After Contraceptive Pill.
Mitt Romney has said that he supports the reversal of Roe versus Wade and told Mike Huckabee at Fox on October 10th, 2011 that he would support the Amendment To The Massachusetts Constitution That Would Have Established Life At Conception.

Romney recently had twin grandsons and four other grandchildren all conceived through in vitro fertilization and carried to term in the womb of an unknown surrogate. In a Fox News Sunday interview with Chris Wallace in February 2005, Romney stated. “If you’re creating new life, simply to destroy it, you’ve gone across a bright red ethical boundary.”

It is standard procedure for surplus embryos to be created during the IVF procedure, yet Romney states that if that life is being created, “simply to destroy it”, which is the reality whether they are “disposed” of, harvested for stem cells, or used in research, then that “bright red ethical boundary” has been crossed, has it not? What about women who undergo an early term abortion and want to donate the embryo for stem cell research? How is it that they have crossed a line, but IVF clinics have not?

It is even more of a paradox that Bain Capital invested in Stericycle, a disposal company that helps in the disposal of aborted fetuses and despite Bain Officials adamant statements that Mitt was not involved with the investment company during that time, Mother Jones uncovered documents filed by Bain and Stericycle with the Securities and Exchange Commission that lists Romney as an active participant in the investment of $75 million into that company. I wonder what other embryo-disposing skeleton is in Romney’s closet. That would help to explain his divided loyalties and inability to nail a stand on issues related to pro-life.

by on Jul. 3, 2012 at 12:42 PM
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shimamab
by on Jul. 3, 2012 at 2:49 PM
We were fortunate to not have to face that choice. But I agree that donation is a far better option than disposal.

Quoting bluespagan:

 Well I know that the market for human eggs can be very lucrative.  I have considered selling mine. 


It is just too bad that there are parents out there who don't use all of the embryos and "discard" them when there are people out there who have used all of them and still haven't conceived for whatever reason.


Quoting shimamab:

Good question. When I was going through IVF, I didn't have any embryos left...so not sure on what can be done. Cord blood can be donated, but it's kind of a complicated, expensive process according to the bank where we had my son's stored.


Quoting bluespagan:


 Can these embryos be donated to those who are having fertility issues? 



This is why Romney does not have my vote.  If he is ok with this then what is wrong with a woman deciding to do this on her own?


 

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jcrew6
by Jenney on Jul. 3, 2012 at 2:50 PM

Ummm did you read the article you posted and the video?

“I would love the Supreme Court to say, ‘Let’s send this back to the states,’” he said. “Rather than having a federal mandate through Roe v. Wade, let the states again consider this issue state by state.”


He belives in STATES RIGHTS!


Quoting bluespagan:

 According to this article http://www.lifenews.com/2012/04/17/mitt-romney-repeats-call-for-overturning-roe-v-wade/ he would call to overturn Roe V Wade.

So either he is lying or just bending the truth a little to not look so bad.

 

Quoting jcrew6:

Romney supports the Hyde Amendment

"On the accusation of being 'multiple-choice', I have to respond. I have my own beliefs, and those beliefs are very dear to me. One of them is that I do not impose my beliefs on other people. Many, many years ago, I had a dear, close family relative that was very close to me who passed away from an illegal abortion. It is since that time my mother and my family have been committed to the belief that we can believe as we want, but we will not force our beliefs on others on that matter.-Mitt Romney

 "As Governor, Mitt Romney would protect the current pro-choice status quo in Massachusetts. No law would change. The choice to have an abortion is a deeply personal one. Women should be free to choose based on their own beliefs, not the government's." Mitt Romney


 


jcrew6
by Jenney on Jul. 3, 2012 at 2:52 PM
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They are damning him if he does... damning him if he doesn't.  When in REALITY he is advocating STATES RIGHTS! 

Quoting motherslove82:

So he because he isn't going to change the laws to reflect his religious beliefs he is "flip-flopping". He may think it is wrong, but does not think there should be a law against it. so let me get this straight, it is wrong for him to force his religious beliefs into law, but if he doesn't he is flip-flopping?


motherslove82
by Bronze Member on Jul. 3, 2012 at 2:56 PM
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Exactly. I keep hearing "well in Mass, he did this", "he had this policy in Mass, why does he not feel that it is right for the nation"... Because Mass Is a state that wanted and has benefitted from certain policies. That does not mean that it should be forced on a nation that does not want it. It also does not mean that something that worked in one state would work for a nation on as a whole. I like that Romney understands that.

Quoting jcrew6:

They are damning him if he does... damning him if he doesn't.  When in REALITY he is advocating STATES RIGHTS! 


Quoting motherslove82:

So he because he isn't going to change the laws to reflect his religious beliefs he is "flip-flopping". He may think it is wrong, but does not think there should be a law against it. so let me get this straight, it is wrong for him to force his religious beliefs into law, but if he doesn't he is flip-flopping?


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jcrew6
by Jenney on Jul. 3, 2012 at 2:58 PM

good

Quoting motherslove82:

Exactly. I keep hearing "well in Mass, he did this", "he had this policy in Mass, why does he not feel that it is right for the nation"... Because Mass Is a state that wanted and has benefitted from certain policies. That does not mean that it should be forced on a nation that does not want it. It also does not mean that something that worked in one state would work for a nation on as a whole. I like that Romney understands that.

Quoting jcrew6:

They are damning him if he does... damning him if he doesn't.  When in REALITY he is advocating STATES RIGHTS! 


Quoting motherslove82:

So he because he isn't going to change the laws to reflect his religious beliefs he is "flip-flopping". He may think it is wrong, but does not think there should be a law against it. so let me get this straight, it is wrong for him to force his religious beliefs into law, but if he doesn't he is flip-flopping?



_Kissy_
by on Jul. 3, 2012 at 3:05 PM

And how many states actually have the constituents best interest at heart? If they did the Government wouldn't be taking over.

blondekosmic15
by Blonde on Jul. 3, 2012 at 3:14 PM
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Senator John McCain initially supported embryonic stem cell research and he is prolife. McCain's heart was changed concerning this research when several prominent right to life advocates met with him about this sensitive issue. He acknowledged adult stem cell is acceptable but understood the immoral practice of embryonic research.

Barack Obama supports abortion on demand. Rec's millions of $$$ from the PP's of America and likeminded abortion organizations. Mitt Romney is prolife and hopefully will experience a change of heart as McCain did. To compare Obama & Romney on the issue of respect for the sanctity of human life is nite & day....

matreshka
by Gold Member on Jul. 3, 2012 at 3:34 PM

I like this idea :)

Quoting bluespagan:

 Can these embryos be donated to those who are having fertility issues? 

This is why Romney does not have my vote.  If he is ok with this then what is wrong with a woman deciding to do this on her own?


matreshka
by Gold Member on Jul. 3, 2012 at 3:36 PM

Once again, Romney will be whatever he thinks the electorate wants him to be.  He is like a robot candidate, being fed talking points, but when called on them has no real response. Having his own perspective and thought process *does not compute* for him.

bluespagan
by on Jul. 3, 2012 at 5:15 PM
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 OK he believes in states rights and in some states women go to PRISON for either miscarrying or delivering stillborn babies.

 

That means that certain states will take away a womans right to choose.  So, he is not supporting anti-choice directly but indirectly, he knows what he is doing and it is underhanded.  Another reason I won't vote for him.

Quoting jcrew6:

Ummm did you read the article you posted and the video?

“I would love the Supreme Court to say, ‘Let’s send this back to the states,’” he said. “Rather than having a federal mandate through Roe v. Wade, let the states again consider this issue state by state.”

 

He belives in STATES RIGHTS!


Quoting bluespagan:

 According to this article http://www.lifenews.com/2012/04/17/mitt-romney-repeats-call-for-overturning-roe-v-wade/ he would call to overturn Roe V Wade.

So either he is lying or just bending the truth a little to not look so bad.

 

Quoting jcrew6:

Romney supports the Hyde Amendment

"On the accusation of being 'multiple-choice', I have to respond. I have my own beliefs, and those beliefs are very dear to me. One of them is that I do not impose my beliefs on other people. Many, many years ago, I had a dear, close family relative that was very close to me who passed away from an illegal abortion. It is since that time my mother and my family have been committed to the belief that we can believe as we want, but we will not force our beliefs on others on that matter.-Mitt Romney

 "As Governor, Mitt Romney would protect the current pro-choice status quo in Massachusetts. No law would change. The choice to have an abortion is a deeply personal one. Women should be free to choose based on their own beliefs, not the government's." Mitt Romney

 

 

 

 

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