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Bush Apologizes To Iraqi Prime Minister Over Quran 'Target Practice'

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an old story, but I don't remember reading it.

BAGHDAD — President Bush has apologized to Iraq's prime minister for an American sniper's shooting of a Quran, and the Iraqi government called on U.S. military commanders to educate their soldiers to respect local religious beliefs.

Bush's spokeswoman said Tuesday that the president apologized during a videoconference Monday with Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, who told the president that the shooting of Islam's holy book had disappointed and angered both the Iraqi people and their leaders.

"He apologized for that in the sense that he said that we take it very seriously," White House press secretary Dana Perino said. "We are concerned about the reaction. We wanted them to know that the president knew that this was wrong."

It was the highest level in a string of statements by U.S. officials trying to soothe anger over the shooting incident, particularly among Sunni Arabs who have become key allies in the fight against insurgents.

The U.S. military said Sunday that it had disciplined the sniper and removed him from Iraq after he was found to have used Islam's holy book for target practice May 9 in a predominantly Sunni area west of Baghdad. The book was found two days later by Iraqis on a firing range in Radwaniyah with 14 bullet holes in it and graffiti written on its pages, tribal leaders said.

Similar perceived insults against Islam in Europe and elsewhere have sparked violent protests, and American officials appeared eager to contain the outrage.

Al-Maliki, a Shiite, told Bush of the "disappointment and anger of the people and government of Iraq over the soldier's disgraceful action," according to a statement from his office.

Al-Maliki's office said Bush told the prime minister that the sniper would face trial, but Perino did not say whether Bush made such a promise. Military officials have not spoken of any further action against the soldier, who has not been identified.

Al-Maliki's office said the Iraqi Cabinet called on Tuesday for the "severest" punishment against the sniper and warned of "grave consequences" if similarly offensive actions were committed in the future.


It also called on commanders of U.S.-led foreign troops in Iraq to educate their soldiers on the need to respect the religious beliefs of Iraqis.

On Tuesday, Khalaf al-Elyan, a senior Sunni Arab lawmaker, said the sniper must stand trial, preferably in Baghdad.

"It is a dangerous case. We had been silent and accepted the killing of our sons, the destruction of our homes and the theft of our money, but we do not accept insults to the holy Quran," he said at a news conference.

Bush's statement of regret came after similar moves by U.S. military leaders.

Maj. Gen. Jeffery Hammond, the commander of U.S. forces in Baghdad, met with tribal leaders in Radwaniyah on Sunday to apologize while another American officer kissed a copy of the Quran before presenting it to the chiefs.

On Monday, the No. 2 U.S. commander in Iraq, Lt. Gen. Lloyd J. Austin III, paid visits to al-Maliki as well as Iraqi Vice President Tariq al-Hashemi and parliament speaker Mahmoud al-Mashhadani, both of whom are Sunni Arabs.

Al-Hashemi, the top Sunni Arab in the government, told Austin that "the feelings of bitterness and anger cannot be eased unless there is a deterrent punishment and real guarantees" such an incident won't be repeated, according to a statement from his office.

Al-Hashemi expressed his appreciation for the visit but asked for a written apology from the U.S. military.

The vice president's Iraqi Islamic Party also issued a tough statement saying an apology alone was not enough and the U.S. military should impose the "severest punishment" on the soldier.

Austin underlined in all three meetings that the soldier had been removed from Iraq, the military said. "He assured them that the matter was serious and that we hold our soldiers accountable for their actions," the statement said.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/20/bush-apologizes-to-iraqi_n_102643.html

by on Jul. 4, 2012 at 11:12 AM
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blondekosmic15
by Blonde on Jul. 4, 2012 at 1:20 PM
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I have read several accounts of military families who have lost loved ones in the Iraq war and listened to interviews which portray the truth about Bush's deep respect for our soldiers and their love for America & freedom. They said Pres Bush was very compassionate, they admired him tremendously for the love and concern he expressed to them. To claim Bush hates our troops is an act of desperation by some on the left fringe of society to paint a false picture of who Bush really is~

blondekosmic15
by Blonde on Jul. 4, 2012 at 1:23 PM

 

Quoting cbk_mom3:

Yeah, well, considering the source, the OP, what can you expect? wink mini

Quoting blondekosmic15:

 

Quoting cbk_mom3:

clapping    hugs

When you think you have heard it all than this absurdity comes forward! When someone claims Bush hates America, the troops and Jesus Christ, they are far off the deep end!!!

Quoting blondekosmic15:

This is the biggest load of crap I've seen in a long time. Not surprised coming from you Kissy. Reveals the fringe you embrace!

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Ace Wonkette Operative “chascates” dug up this timely old article proving that George W. Bush also hates America and freedom and liberty and the troops and Jesus:


 


 

blondekosmic15
by Blonde on Jul. 4, 2012 at 1:32 PM
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Quoting shimamab:

Am I way off base or was the whole proving Bush hates America tongue-in-cheek because of Obama's detractors accusing him of that? Pretty sure the point was to say NEITHER of them hate America just because they apologize when something goes wrong....

I have never accused Obama of hate. I have consistently stated I believe he is a progressive liberal socialist. His policies, advisors and associates reveal this. He's weak and naive concerning America's enemies. He is inexperienced and politically groomed by the corrupt Mayor Daley machine from the windy city. Corruption, progressive politics and Illinois' economy rapidly deteriorating is common knowledge in this state and thru out America. I live a couple of hrs from Chicago~

shimamab
by on Jul. 4, 2012 at 1:36 PM
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I wasn't speaking of anyone specifically. But there has been plenty made of Obama's apologies being anti-American. So my take on the OP was that the author was trying to draw a parallel and say that apologizing isn't anti-American, not that Bush actually hates America. KWIM? 

Quoting blondekosmic15:

 

Quoting shimamab:

Am I way off base or was the whole proving Bush hates America tongue-in-cheek because of Obama's detractors accusing him of that? Pretty sure the point was to say NEITHER of them hate America just because they apologize when something goes wrong....

I have never accused Obama of hate. I have consistently stated I believe he is a progressive liberal socialist. His policies, advisors and associates reveal this. He's weak and naive concerning America's enemies. He is inexperienced and politically groomed by the corrupt Mayor Daley machine from the windy city. Corruption, progressive politics and Illinois' economy rapidly deteriorating is common knowledge in this state and thru out America. I live a couple of hrs from Chicago~


Friday
by Platinum Member on Jul. 4, 2012 at 1:52 PM


Quoting blondekosmic15:

This is the biggest load of crap I've seen in a long time. Not surprised coming from you Kissy. Reveals the fringe you embrace!

quote>

Ace Wonkette Operative “chascates” dug up this timely old article proving that George W. Bush also hates America and freedom and liberty and the troops and Jesus:

That went straight over your head. Obama was accused of hating America and other nice BS when he apologized for our troops buring the Quran. Why does Obama apologizing for our troops misconduct mean he hates America but when Dubya did the exact same thing it's not the same?

IOKIYAR

 


Thank God......it's Friday!!!

Friday
by Platinum Member on Jul. 4, 2012 at 1:56 PM
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Gingrich Silent On Bush Apology For 2008 Quran Desecration: ‘I Wasn’t A Presidential Candidate’ Then

Protests have been raging in Afghanistan since news surfaced that U.S. troops burned copies of the Quran at Bagram Air Force Base. Last week, President Obama apologized to Afghans and the Afghan government saying the act was “inadvertent.”

But the Republican presidential candidates — who are averse to saying sorry for anything — pounced on the president. Rick Santorum admitted the Quran burning was a “mistake” but said Obama’s apology “shows weakness.” And Newt Gingrich said Obama “surrendered.” “There seems to be nothing that radical Islamists can do to get Barack Obama’s attention in a negative way,” Gingrich said, “and he is consistently apologizing to people who do not deserve the apology of the president of the United States, period.”

When CNN’s Wolf Blitzer asked Gingrich yesterday if that standard also applies to President Bush (Bush issued an apology to Iraq for a similar incident there in 2008), the former House Speaker didn’t have an answer. “I wasn’t a presidential candidate at that point,” was all he could come up with. Blitzer tried one more time:

BLITZER: So I just want to be precise. I can — I totally understand where you’re coming from as far as President Obama is concerned, apologizing now. But with hindsight, was it wrong for President Bush to apologize back in 2008?

GINGRICH: Look, I think we should always have respect for various religious documents. But I would also ask you, Wolf, why was it OK for the U.S. Army to burn bibles? I mean I don’t understand this one-sided nature that is always apologizing for Islam while it is dissing Christianity. And it was the U.S. Army policy to burn bibles in 2009. It wasn’t the Obama administration.

And I am just — I personally am — one of the reasons that I’m running for president is that I’m tired of the elite view in this country, you can do anything you want to to Judaism and Christianity, but you have to apologize for Islam as often as necessary and you can never stand up and just say that’s baloney.


So Gingrich says that Obama surrendered the nation to Afghanistan by apologizing for Quran desecration, yet Bush gets off the hook. The former speaker’s hypocrisy shouldn’t be all that surprising though, as it’s been the hallmark of his presidential campaign.

 


Thank God......it's Friday!!!

Friday
by Platinum Member on Jul. 4, 2012 at 1:57 PM
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Rick Santorum: Obama's Apology For Quran Burning 'Shows Weakness'

Posted: 02/26/12 10:53 AM ET  |  Updated: 02/26/12 12:40 PM ET

Republican presidential contender Rick Santorum accused President Barack Obama of "weakness" on Sunday for apologizing to the Islamic world over the U.S. military's recent burning of Qurans in Afghanistan.

The destruction of copies of the Muslim holy book has outraged much of the international Islamic community, and Obama apologized for what the American government has described as the inadvertent disposal of Qurans in a fire. Santorum's latest rhetorical attack on the president follows his recent questioning of Obama's religion, in which Santorum claimed Obama subscribes to a "phony theology."

During a Sunday appearance on ABC News, Santorum said that Obama should not have apologized for the holy book destruction because the U.S. military had only accidentally burned Qurans. Santorum then added that Obama's apology, rather than the actual burning of Qurans, was hurting both the image of America abroad and the U.S. military mission in Afghanistan.

"There was nothing deliberately done wrong here. This was something that happened as a mistake. Killing Americans in uniform is not a mistake ... when that is occurring, you should not be apologizing for something that was -- an unfortunate -- say it’s unfortunate, say that this is something that should have been done," Santorum said. "To apologize for something that was not an intentional act is something that the president of the United States, in my opinion, should not have done."

"But if it was a mistake, isn’t apologizing the right, important thing to do?" asked ABC News host George Stephanopoulos.

"It suggests that there is somehow blame, this is somehow that we did something wrong in the sense of doing a deliberate act wrong," Santorum replied. "I think it shows that we are -- that I think it shows weakness."

Appearing on NBC's "Meet The Press," Santorum again criticized Obama's apology, saying that the Afghanistan government and President Hamid Karzai should apologize to the United States for "attacking and killing our men and women in uniform."

Santorum was heavily criticized last week for challenging Obama's religous faith, with many observers suggesting that his comment played to conspiracy theoriesamong the Republican base that maintain Obama is secretly Muslim. Santorum's latest Islam-oriented criticism of the president comes as polls show a close racebetween Santorum and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney in the upcoming primary battle in Michigan.

 


Thank God......it's Friday!!!

VeronicaTex
by on Jul. 4, 2012 at 2:25 PM

Apologizing for something that was very, very wrong will always be the right thing to do.

Also making the wrongdoers receive consequences should always be a follow up!!!!

Veronica-Former Military

VeronicaTex
by on Jul. 4, 2012 at 2:37 PM
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What I do see, for the most part, is the sensibility of the responders to hail Former President Bush for apologizing to Iraqi Prime Minister over Quran "Target Practice".

I am so relieved that we had a President such as President Bush at the time to lead our nation. We should never forget what a blessing he was.

As for viciously,  disrespectfully making a book dear to others,  a source of hate: It was for sure the wrongdoers weren't going to step up and take the blame for such an act.

I can't believe such stupidity on an American solder's part.

Don't people realize this is playing with fire?

It takes a strong man to stand up and apologize for what some insensitive American did.

Veronica


VeronicaTex
by on Jul. 4, 2012 at 2:45 PM

Much more than one person needs to read this paragraph very carefully.

Sincerely,

Veronica

Quoting blondekosmic15:

 

If you truly understood the events unfolding as we speak, you would be aware of the devastation and chaos on the horizon. Read the book of Revelation { Apocalypse } if you sincerely care about the truth and reality or you can continue to live in your secular world of denial and complacency. Be attentive to the experts who paint a very different picture than you do. To claim former Pres Bush hates America, freedom and Jesus reveals your willingness to be deceived and how naive you are. By the way, postcards nor any form of exchange will not be available. Freedom will cease when our enemies succeed in world domination. Do you really believe your captors will allow you to go about your business as you do today!? Many innocent ppl. will lose their lives~

 


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