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July 4th fireworks equal ‘pretend war’

Posted by on Jul. 4, 2012 at 2:56 PM
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Teacher: July 4th fireworks equal ‘pretend war’

By Kyle Olson
EAGnews.org

PORTLAND, Ore. – To some people, nothing is sacred. Not even Fourth of July fireworks.

Fireworks have been a staple of Independence Day celebrations since the earliest years of the republic. The tradition dates back to July 3, 1776, when John Adams wrote a letter to his wife, suggesting that that America’s birthday “ought to be solemnized with pomp and parade, with shows, games, sports, guns, bells, bonfires, and illuminations, from one end of this continent to the other, from this time forward forever more.”

But now the progressives are trying to revise that history, too.

Bill Bigelow of the radical teacher organization Rethinking Schools,wrote that we need to “rethink” the 4th of July. This “progressive” teacher has declared war on fireworks.

The Fourth of July “…provides cover for people to blow off fireworks that terrify young children and animals, and that turn the air thick with smoke and errant projectiles. Last year, the fire department here [Portland, OR] reported 172 fires sparked by toy missiles, defective firecrackers, and other items of explosive revelry.”

So Bigelow is concerned about public safety. Fair enough. But there’s more:

“Apart from the noise pollution, air pollution, and flying debris pollution, there is something profoundly inappropriate about blowing off fireworks at a time when the United States is waging war with real fireworks around the world. To cite just one example, the Bureau of Investigative Journalism in London found recently that U.S. drone strikes in Pakistan alone have killed more than 200 people, including at least 60 children. And, of course, the U.S. war in Afghanistan drags on and on. The pretend war of celebratory fireworks thus becomes part of a propaganda campaign that inures us—especially the children among us—to the real wars half a world away.”

Yes, to this ingenious teacher, fireworks promote war. In fact, he says fireworks are “pretend war!”

Is there any vestige of original Americana that Marxist educators won’t seek to erase from our culture?

The real problem is that too many Americans, particularly youngsters, have little idea what the Fourth of July commemorates. They light off fireworks because they think it’s fun, not because they have the first clue that they’re celebrating their nation’s independence.

That’s due to the influence of teachers like Bigelow. They would rather make students feel guilty about being Americans than encourage them to appreciate the great things about their nation.

If they manage to win their internal war on America by brainwashing too many young minds, we will all be sorry in the very near future.

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Raintree
by Silver Member on Jul. 5, 2012 at 1:16 PM

I've always been very iffy about fireworks= I don't really care one way or the other. Seen one, seen 'em all. They're noise and obnoxious- and when let off during the winter months, they kill a lot of traveling song birds.

And then I had a dog- a labrador retriever, to be exact- who had a very HUGE problem with two things: Thunder and fireworks. Because I live in a small town with a firework trailer starting somewhere around June 20- It was literal hell for me for over two weeks- sometimes three. One year I had just had a baby and we ended up kenneling her a good portion of that time. And while there she tore through her kennel and through an interior door during a thunder storm.

Hell. Hell from China.Hell from above for 9 long years- we tried everything.

Micah died back 2007 and it was probably a merciful relief for her at the time- it was in a way for me as well. She had cancer. But one more year of hysterical dog that you couldn't do anything to help and we both would have lost it. And of course, the neighbors didn't care.

Speaking of: I have neighbors now who have a lab who is afraid of storms and fireworks, and there they are, shooting them off right by her last night until 1 am. And when she pulls off the chain they keep her on at all times- during thunderstorms- guess whose house she comes to? Not her own. Mine. She barks at my door until I wake up and take her home. Idiots.


jcrew6
by Jenney on Jul. 5, 2012 at 3:24 PM
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A true M-80 contains much more than 50 milligrams. Which is, in fact, illegal. So a constant barrage of m80's?


Quoting mehamil1:

There are many veterans in my neighborhood and I can only imagine what they go through with the constant barrage of M80s going off for a full week. I hate it. 


Quoting timeforprogress:

I have perspective that might make people think differently about it.  I actually live within the Portland Metro area in a suburban neighborhood of Vancouver, WA where I bought a home this past December. 

You see the 4th of July fireworks celebration doesn't begin here at sunset on the 4th.  It begins at some point around the 30th of June.  It might have been dark. I am not quite sure the days are just running together, because you see I haven't really slept more than a few restless hours every night since they began. 

I am a war vet with PTSD, and for the most part I have really learned to keep my mental health in check.  However, there are so many fireworks flowing through the streets here that I caught my son playing with them without adult supervision.  I didn't buy him any fireworks. There are so many fireworks exploding in every direction around me that people are handing them out like candy.  I am not talking little things here like sparklers and whistlers.

These are full on mortar shells.  Its 12 and the fireworks are exploding again.  They quit maybe around 2 am this morning.  My heart is perpetually racing.  I am struggling to keep my sanity.  I still have to accomplish things.  My responsibilities don't disappear for the week.  So now I get to wrestle with exhaustion while constantly having to remind myself that I am in the suburbs and not a war zone. 

I am sure that everyone else is having a blast, but I am in hell. 



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jcrew6
by Jenney on Jul. 5, 2012 at 3:27 PM
You live somewhere where there is a constant barrage of Illegal fireworks in your neighborhood? Have you called the cops?


Quoting mehamil1:

Did you just post this nonsense to get me to talk to you? Ugh. 

M-80s can still be legally manufactured in the United States by those holding a federal explosives license. Federal and state officials sometimes distribute them to farmers to scare away wildlife encroaching on their crops.

source: M-80s: The Big, Illicit Bang," The Wall Street Journal, July 3–5, 2009, p. W12

You gotta kill someone or rape/molest a bunch of people to get life in any kind of prison. 


Quoting Carpy:

M-80's are a federal offense that can get you up to life in a federal prison.

Quoting mehamil1:

There are many veterans in my neighborhood and I can only imagine what they go through with the constant barrage of M80s going off for a full week. I hate it. 



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jcrew6
by Jenney on Jul. 5, 2012 at 3:32 PM
Had this conversation with my uncle, a Vietnam vet. Said it didn't bother him. But he can see where some would be impacted with PTSD. But, he said a car backfiring, jet flyover at a football game, rifles going off at a track and field event and even everyday noises could negatively impact someone with PTSD.
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mehamil1
by on Jul. 5, 2012 at 3:35 PM

Yes. It was a constant barrage. One or two would go off every hour or so for the past 3 days. Maybe one could go off a day leading up to the 4th. I haven't heard any today so I hope they ran out.

Keep in mind I live in Chicago. My zip code alone has over 50,000 people in it. My actual neighborhood, North Mayfair, Northwest side of this city, has 10,000 residents within the limits. Many of these people will go into Indiana or Ohio to buy fireworks from the factories or other places that sell them.They are illegal in IL but so many people set them off that it's very difficult for the police to manage all of them. It's worse on the southside of the city so the police tend to be concentrated down there before and on the 4th.

Just because something is illegal doesn't mean people will not do it. We all know this.

I have no idea what is in the M-80s that my neighbors are blowing up. I've never examined one. I dislike all kinds of fireworks. The sound and smell of them are repugnant. All I know is that when they are blown up, the house shakes, the windows rattle, my dog goes nuts, car alarms for off, and my dad drinks himself into oblivion so that he's not reminded of Vietnam.

Quoting jcrew6:

A true M-80 contains much more than 50 milligrams. Which is, in fact, illegal. So a constant barrage of m80's?
Quoting mehamil1:

There are many veterans in my neighborhood and I can only imagine what they go through with the constant barrage of M80s going off for a full week. I hate it. 


DixieL
by Bronze Member on Jul. 5, 2012 at 3:52 PM

It never fails Everytime you think you have heard everything, something else happens

timeforprogress
by Bronze Member on Jul. 5, 2012 at 3:56 PM

It was well after 2am.  Oh and there is still the occasional blast now.  My heart feels like it is going to explode, and I am still so incredibly exhausted.  My head hurts and my body is shaking.   I am sick to my stomach, and desperately just want to feel normal.

My survival instincts kick in every time I hear one.   If it were just an occasional thing, then it would be bearable.  Its just that I have been in a state of hyper vigilance now for several days.  I am just super glad that I don't have any little children to care for.  My son is 11 and thankfully he is old enough to understand that this is an incredibly challenging time for me. 

Hopefully by tomorrow I can get the shaking to stop, but then depression usually kicks in.  Took me over a month last year to get out of my funk.  This year was by far the worst, so lord knows when I will feel right again. 

Quoting JakeandEmmasMom:

 Big hugs, TFP.  I never thought about how it would affect vets with PTSD.

I'm in Vancouver too, and it really seemed worse this year.  I'm not sure when they stopped in our neighborhood.  We went to bed around 11:30 and our neighbors were still going strong.  What I don't get is the people who light them off in the middle of the day.  I mean, really?  How cool is a firework at 3:00 in the afternoon?! 

 

Quoting timeforprogress:

I have perspective that might make people think differently about it.  I actually live within the Portland Metro area in a suburban neighborhood of Vancouver, WA where I bought a home this past December. 

You see the 4th of July fireworks celebration doesn't begin here at sunset on the 4th.  It begins at some point around the 30th of June.  It might have been dark. I am not quite sure the days are just running together, because you see I haven't really slept more than a few restless hours every night since they began. 

I am a war vet with PTSD, and for the most part I have really learned to keep my mental health in check.  However, there are so many fireworks flowing through the streets here that I caught my son playing with them without adult supervision.  I didn't buy him any fireworks. There are so many fireworks exploding in every direction around me that people are handing them out like candy.  I am not talking little things here like sparklers and whistlers.

These are full on mortar shells.  Its 12 and the fireworks are exploding again.  They quit maybe around 2 am this morning.  My heart is perpetually racing.  I am struggling to keep my sanity.  I still have to accomplish things.  My responsibilities don't disappear for the week.  So now I get to wrestle with exhaustion while constantly having to remind myself that I am in the suburbs and not a war zone. 

I am sure that everyone else is having a blast, but I am in hell. 

 


timeforprogress
by Bronze Member on Jul. 5, 2012 at 3:59 PM

Before I moved up here to Washington, I used to be able to handle them pretty well.  They came at a predictable time from a predictable direction, and they were more distant.  Now they explode at any moment from as close as the street in front of my home. 

Quoting Mommy_of_Riley:

I'm sorry.

I spent most of my night holding my hubby's hands watching tv shows on Netflix with the volume up.

Luckily fireworks are illegal here except for professionals so we only had to deal with hearing 1 show last night and 1 tonight...

He even dared and went outside to sit (we live by a lake). He did good. It gets better each year. He says if he can see the colors and know where the "boom" is coming from its better for him.


Quoting timeforprogress:

I am torn between my desire not to ruin everyones time, and my need to just sleep.  I am supposed to volunteer tomorrow at a summer program for teens, but I just don't think I can keep going at this rate when I haven't slept since fireworks went on sale.  I am just so very very very exhausted. 

Quoting Mommy_of_Riley:

I think only small fireworks should be sold to the common person.



Anything larger than a bottle rocket should only be sold to professionals.



But that's just me.



I have a Special Needs son who can't handle loud noises and a Husband who jumps and tremors EVERYTIME he hears a loud noise...



Fun Times



timeforprogress
by Bronze Member on Jul. 5, 2012 at 4:11 PM

It isn't that other things don't bother me, but cars aren't backfiring and jets aren't doing flybys, and rifles aren't going off over and over and over and over again right outside my home and everywhere I go in the area for days. 

It literally sounds like being in the middle of a heavy artillery battle.  For someone who had several close calls with mortars and rockets it is beyond bothersome.  It is downright insanity.

By the evening of the fourth it even begins to smell like a war zone. 

This is just thirty seconds from right outside my door. 


Quoting jcrew6:

Had this conversation with my uncle, a Vietnam vet. Said it didn't bother him. But he can see where some would be impacted with PTSD. But, he said a car backfiring, jet flyover at a football game, rifles going off at a track and field event and even everyday noises could negatively impact someone with PTSD.


Carpy
by Platinum Member on Jul. 5, 2012 at 4:25 PM
Which of us has been raised her entire life with the fireworks industry being family business? I do believe it is me. M-80's are a federal offense. Not even farmers have easy "legal" access to them. They are a quarter stick of dynamite. Ask your local ATF what happens if you get caught in illegal possession of them. Be sure to ask about if you cross state lines with them as well. And please refrain from trying to make out like i do not know what i am talking about when it is obviously you that do not. I understand that some of the less bright will believe you, and that makes you feel important and all, but it just serves no other purpose.

Quoting mehamil1:

Did you just post this nonsense to get me to talk to you? Ugh. 

M-80s can still be legally manufactured in the United States by those holding a federal explosives license. Federal and state officials sometimes distribute them to farmers to scare away wildlife encroaching on their crops.

source: M-80s: The Big, Illicit Bang," The Wall Street Journal, July 3–5, 2009, p. W12

You gotta kill someone or rape/molest a bunch of people to get life in any kind of prison. 


Quoting Carpy:

M-80's are a federal offense that can get you up to life in a federal prison.

Quoting mehamil1:

There are many veterans in my neighborhood and I can only imagine what they go through with the constant barrage of M80s going off for a full week. I hate it. 


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