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Rahm Emanuel’s Odd Idea Of “Chicago Values”

Posted by on Jul. 27, 2012 at 4:07 PM
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Rahm Emanuel’s Odd Idea Of “Chicago Values”


At a press event yesterday, Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel spoke out against Chick-fil-A over its President’s comments about same-sex marriage:

“Chick-fil-A’s values are not Chicago values. They’re not respectful of our residents, our neighbors and our family members. And if you’re gonna be part of the Chicago community, you should reflect Chicago values,” Emanuel said Wednesday.

“What the CEO has said as it relates to gay marriage and gay couples is not what I believe, but more importantly, it’s not what the people of Chicago believe. We just passed legislation as it relates to civil union and my goal and my hope … is that we now move on recognizing gay marriage. I do not believe that the CEO’s comments … reflects who we are as a city.”

The same day that story ran, the Chicago Sun-Times also reported that Emanuel was “welcoming” the assistance of Louis Farakhan and the Nation of Islam in combating the recent uptick in violence in the city:

 Ignoring Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan’s history of anti-Semitic remarks, Mayor Rahm Emanuel on Wednesday welcomed the army of men dispatched to the streets by Farrakhan to stop the violence in Chicago neighborhoods

(…)

For the last two Mondays, black men in dress suits and bow ties fanned out across violence-plagued Chicago neighborhoods — first Auburn-Gresham, then South Shore — to form a human wall of protection against any sudden outbreak of gunfire.

The army of men, know as the Fruit of Islam, were led by Farrakhan, who ordered the show of force in response to last month’s brutal murder of seven-year-old Heaven Sutton.

Emanuel’s decision to steer clear of Farrakhan’s history of anti-Semitic remarks is a far cry from the 1994 controversy that followed former Mayor Richard M. Daley’s private meeting with Farrkakhan.

During the meeting, Daley prodded Farrakhan to work out his differences with Jewish leaders in talks arranged by the Commission on Human Relations. Daley even hinted that if those conversations did not take place, the Nation of Islam would have trouble winning the city approval needed for its planned development along the 79th Street commercial strip.

Jewish leaders refused to engage in the dialogue. They were so concerned about the mayor’s private meeting with Farrakhan they demanded an audience of their own to clear the air. Daley used that meeting to deny ever suggesting the give-and-take.

“There’s been a rather longstanding pattern where Minister Farrakhan has talked about wanting dialogue. There have even been a couple of instances where members of the Jewish community have met with him,” Michael Kotzin, director of the Jewish Community Relations Council, said at the time.

“Invariably, he’s been unchanged after that. They have felt betrayed by things he said to them. Been there. Don’t want to be there again and be put in that kind of box. All that happens is that he gains from those kinds of meetings a kind of credibility, legitimacy and stature. That’s all that would come of it.”

Farakhan’s history of anti-semitism is so well-known that it barely needs to be repeated, and it’s interesting that Emanuel is willing to ignore all of that and yet considers a private business that employees thousands of people and provides a product that people want to be so anathema that he’s willing to endorse a plainly unconstitutional effort to ban them.

So let me get this straight. Under Emanuel’s version of “Chicago values” a private company headed by a man who did nothing but express his religious beliefs is unacceptable but an anti-semitic race hustler who heads an organization that has a long history of intimidating outsiders is totally acceptable. Something doesn’t compute there, Rahm.

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mehamil1
by on Jul. 27, 2012 at 4:24 PM
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Do you live in Chicago?

I do. 

This place is corrupt. That's all. Nothing more or less. Emanuel is a politician and the white male gays here are very organized and have a lot of money and a shit ton of power over the politicians. They cater to them. 

As for the Nation of Islam coming here, I will take anyone, and I mean anyone, if they have the ability to get people to stop killing one another. I'll take them. 

What they won't say in the media is the reason why this shit is happening here. There are no economic opportunties and people are too poor to move somewhere else. The resources are so scarce in that part of the city that the people are at each others throats. This is a fight for survival. Daley and his father did everything in their power to red line that area and impoverish all those people. They want them to kill each other. That's what they wanted. I don't know if Emanuel wants that as well. It wouldn't surprise me if he did. 

This place is a cess pool of corruption. The zoning laws make it so that no one can open a business without the say so of a lot of people. 

Ednarooni160
by Eds on Jul. 27, 2012 at 4:27 PM
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Quoting mehamil1:

Do you live in Chicago?

I do. 

This place is corrupt. That's all. Nothing more or less. Emanuel is a politician and the gays here are very organized and have a lot of money and a shit ton of power over the politicians. They cater to them. 

As for the Nation of Islam coming here, I will take anyone, and I mean anyone, if they have the ability to get people to stop killing one another. I'll take them. 

What they won't say in the media is the reason why this shit is happening here. There are no economic opportunties and people are too poor to move somewhere else. The resources are so scarce in that part of the city that the people are at each others throats. This is a fight for survival. Daley and his father did everything in their power to red line that area and impoverish all those people. They want them to kill each other. That's what they wanted. I don't know if Emanuel wants that as well. It wouldn't surprise me if he did. 

This place is a cess pool of corruption. The zoning laws make it so that no one can open a business without the say so of a lot of people. 

Would you accept the KKK if they came to help out?

blondekosmic15
by Blonde on Jul. 27, 2012 at 4:56 PM
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Quoting mehamil1:

Do you live in Chicago?

I reside near the windy city. My father was born & raised in Chicago. Corrupt, corrupt, corrupt!

I do. 

This place is corrupt. That's all. Nothing more or less. Emanuel is a politician and the gays here are very organized and have a lot of money and a shit ton of power over the politicians. They cater to them. 

Yes, they do cater to them. Dead fish Rahm Emanuel a puppet to their agenda....

As for the Nation of Islam coming here, I will take anyone, and I mean anyone, if they have the ability to get people to stop killing one another. I'll take them. 

Take anyone...how about kneeling down & asking God to help. I'm sure this has never occured to Rahm Emanuel. To fight evil & violence, a City needs God's assistance not some radical incompetent racist like Louis Farakhan. Megan, the devil is always the instigator of violence & hatred. He tempted Cain to kill Abel, the 1st murder. The Nation of Islam represents division & hatred. Hardly a wise choice to combat evil & murder. The absence of God opens the door wide to this violence & chaos.

What they won't say in the media is the reason why this shit is happening here. There are no economic opportunties and people are too poor to move somewhere else. The resources are so scarce in that part of the city that the people are at each others throats. This is a fight for survival. Daley and his father did everything in their power to red line that area and impoverish all those people. They want them to kill each other. That's what they wanted. I don't know if Emanuel wants that as well. It wouldn't surprise me if he did. 

hmm......Socialism and far left progressive policies in Chicago.

This place is a cess pool of corruption. The zoning laws make it so that no one can open a business without the say so of a lot of people. 

Control and the loss of indivual freedom to prosper. This type of corruption, big gov't policies entered the WH when Obama was elected in '08. The fruits of the corrupt Mayor Daley machine!

 

Ednarooni160
by Eds on Jul. 27, 2012 at 5:01 PM
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Quoting blondekosmic15:

 

Quoting mehamil1:

Do you live in Chicago?

I reside near the windy city. My father was born & raised in Chicago. Corrupt, corrupt, corrupt!

I do. 

This place is corrupt. That's all. Nothing more or less. Emanuel is a politician and the gays here are very organized and have a lot of money and a shit ton of power over the politicians. They cater to them. 

Yes, they do cater to them. Dead fish Rahm Emanuel a puppet to their agenda....

As for the Nation of Islam coming here, I will take anyone, and I mean anyone, if they have the ability to get people to stop killing one another. I'll take them. 

Take anyone...how about kneeling down & asking God to help. I'm sure this has never occured to Rahm Emanuel. To fight evil & violence, a City needs God's assistance not some radical incompetent racist like Louis Farakhan. Megan, the devil is always the instigator of violence & hatred. He tempted Cain to kill Abel, the 1st murder. The Nation of Islam represents division & hatred. Hardly a wise choice to combat evil & murder. The absence of God opens the door wide to this violence & chaos.

What they won't say in the media is the reason why this shit is happening here. There are no economic opportunties and people are too poor to move somewhere else. The resources are so scarce in that part of the city that the people are at each others throats. This is a fight for survival. Daley and his father did everything in their power to red line that area and impoverish all those people. They want them to kill each other. That's what they wanted. I don't know if Emanuel wants that as well. It wouldn't surprise me if he did. 

hmm......Socialism and far left progressive policies in Chicago.

This place is a cess pool of corruption. The zoning laws make it so that no one can open a business without the say so of a lot of people. 

Control and the loss of indivual freedom to prosper. This type of corruption, big gov't policies entered the WH when Obama was elected in '08. The fruits of the corrupt Mayor Daley machine!

 

AGREE.. What also worries me is how the youth is "susceptible" to these kinds of "influences" whether it be the KKK or a racist like Farrakan who professes to hate whites and the Jews.

mehamil1
by on Jul. 27, 2012 at 5:29 PM

The KKK would never come to help. That's appples and oranges. Try again. 

Quoting Ednarooni160:
Quoting mehamil1:

Do you live in Chicago?

I do. 

This place is corrupt. That's all. Nothing more or less. Emanuel is a politician and the gays here are very organized and have a lot of money and a shit ton of power over the politicians. They cater to them. 

As for the Nation of Islam coming here, I will take anyone, and I mean anyone, if they have the ability to get people to stop killing one another. I'll take them. 

What they won't say in the media is the reason why this shit is happening here. There are no economic opportunties and people are too poor to move somewhere else. The resources are so scarce in that part of the city that the people are at each others throats. This is a fight for survival. Daley and his father did everything in their power to red line that area and impoverish all those people. They want them to kill each other. That's what they wanted. I don't know if Emanuel wants that as well. It wouldn't surprise me if he did. 

This place is a cess pool of corruption. The zoning laws make it so that no one can open a business without the say so of a lot of people. 

Would you accept the KKK if they came to help out?


Ednarooni160
by Eds on Jul. 27, 2012 at 5:33 PM
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Quoting mehamil1:

The KKK would never come to help. That's appples and oranges. Try again. 

Quoting Ednarooni160:
Quoting mehamil1:

Do you live in Chicago?

I do. 

This place is corrupt. That's all. Nothing more or less. Emanuel is a politician and the gays here are very organized and have a lot of money and a shit ton of power over the politicians. They cater to them. 

As for the Nation of Islam coming here, I will take anyone, and I mean anyone, if they have the ability to get people to stop killing one another. I'll take them. 

What they won't say in the media is the reason why this shit is happening here. There are no economic opportunties and people are too poor to move somewhere else. The resources are so scarce in that part of the city that the people are at each others throats. This is a fight for survival. Daley and his father did everything in their power to red line that area and impoverish all those people. They want them to kill each other. That's what they wanted. I don't know if Emanuel wants that as well. It wouldn't surprise me if he did. 

This place is a cess pool of corruption. The zoning laws make it so that no one can open a business without the say so of a lot of people. 

Would you accept the KKK if they came to help out?


I have no idea if they would offer to help or not..but comparing Farrakan and the KKK is not like apples and oranges.. They  BOTH hold  racist beliefs..

GaleJ
by Member on Jul. 27, 2012 at 5:35 PM
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I too am a Chicagoan and as is usually the case with such issues there is more to these stories than it may seem.

Chick-fil-A, as does any business, needs zoning and licensing and while I may agree that there are legal issues the idea of a community not accepting a business is one that is constantly being debated and discussed here in Chicago and elsewhere; whether it is the nuns trying to keep the strip club from opening next to their convent or communities that do not want Walmart to open. We as a city have the right to discuss and debate this and decide in what manner we wish to deal with this. As to the idea of this company not sharing our values I think that here again we have the right to debate this. Chicago is a place that has consistently supported the LGBTQ community and while not everyone may support that our city welcomes diversity of all sorts among our citizens. Already the private, non-corporate, franchisee of the only Chick-fil-A currently open here in the city has asked to meet with Rahm to discuss this so the process of finding the right path continues and I am pleased that so many in our city are actively and thoughtfully considering this topic.

As to the Rev. Farrakhan and his followers, religious groups have traditionally pitched in to help in communities when there is a crisis and believe me we are facing a crisis of violence here in Chicago. While we may not individually support the beliefs and policies of such groups they are legitimately part of our communities, particularly the Nation of Islam here in Chicago that is headquartered on the South Side where so much of the extreme and senseless violence is happening. When your house is on fire you don't interview the guy that shows up with a hose. To compare the Nation of Islam with the KKK may have some validity in some people's minds but while the Nation of Islam may hold some hateful beliefs they do have a functional religious organization that includes a great deal more than just those particular views unlike the KKK.  

mehamil1
by on Jul. 27, 2012 at 5:39 PM

There is no socialism here in Chicago. Get that out of your mind right now. What made this happen is racism and capitalism run amok and a long long long history of corruption. Your father may have lived here but he doesn't now. And neither do you. I am in the thick of this monstrosity and have been for my entire life. So I think our perspectives are a tad different. 

God can only do so much if the people here are unwilling to stop the city government from royally fucking us over year after year. Or maybe this is God's answer in the form of sending the Nation of Islam here. Maybe they will have some kind of positive effect on that area. Hopefully they'll be able to end the real estate red lining and force the banks to give loans to people to start up businesses here and repair the crumbling schools and get grocery stores and farmers markets here. 

There are no economic opportunities in that area. The people are too poor to leave. It's designed that way. It's a ghetto by design. The old administration is on record saying "let them kill each other, send in some arms dealers, send in some drug dealers, kill the N******. That has been the modus operandi of the Chicago south side for over 100 years. Let them kill each other. Keep them there. Do not allow them to move to other areas" (And they aren't, black and Hispanic people are not shown houses and businesses in the "white" areas of this city, They are steered to very specific neighborhoods, I am not making this up, this is what real estate agencies were told to do by Daley's father and by Daley jr). 

If the Nation of Islam can organize all those people on the south side who have been disenfranchised for the last 100 years, I welcome it. If they can force the City of Chicago to be held accountable, I welcome it. If they can bring economic and educational opportunity to the south side, I welcome it. 

Quoting blondekosmic15:
Quoting mehamil1:

Do you live in Chicago?

I reside near the windy city. My father was born & raised in Chicago. Corrupt, corrupt, corrupt!

I do. 

This place is corrupt. That's all. Nothing more or less. Emanuel is a politician and the gays here are very organized and have a lot of money and a shit ton of power over the politicians. They cater to them. 

Yes, they do cater to them. Dead fish Rahm Emanuel a puppet to their agenda....

As for the Nation of Islam coming here, I will take anyone, and I mean anyone, if they have the ability to get people to stop killing one another. I'll take them. 

Take anyone...how about kneeling down & asking God to help. I'm sure this has never occured to Rahm Emanuel. To fight evil & violence, a City needs God's assistance not some radical incompetent racist like Louis Farakhan. Megan, the devil is always the instigator of violence & hatred. He tempted Cain to kill Abel, the 1st murder. The Nation of Islam represents division & hatred. Hardly a wise choice to combat evil & murder. The absence of God opens the door wide to this violence & chaos.

What they won't say in the media is the reason why this shit is happening here. There are no economic opportunties and people are too poor to move somewhere else. The resources are so scarce in that part of the city that the people are at each others throats. This is a fight for survival. Daley and his father did everything in their power to red line that area and impoverish all those people. They want them to kill each other. That's what they wanted. I don't know if Emanuel wants that as well. It wouldn't surprise me if he did. 

hmm......Socialism and far left progressive policies in Chicago.

This place is a cess pool of corruption. The zoning laws make it so that no one can open a business without the say so of a lot of people. 

Control and the loss of indivual freedom to prosper. This type of corruption, big gov't policies entered the WH when Obama was elected in '08. The fruits of the corrupt Mayor Daley machine!

 


mehamil1
by on Jul. 27, 2012 at 5:42 PM

Racism = The dominant race oppressing other races. In this country, the white race is the dominant race and oppresses other races. The Nation of Islam is a mainly black organization. By that definition, they are not a racist organization. The Nation of Islam does not have the power of the KKK. Not by a long shot. 

Prejudice is a feeling. Anyone can be prejudices. Discrimination is an action. Anyone can discriminate against anyone for any reason. In order to be racist, one has to be part of the dominant race. Black/hispanic/asian/etc are not part of the dominant race so they cannot oppress anyone. They do not have that kind of power. 

This is the sociological definition. Sociology as in the study of society. One of the sciences of the humanities. Not Sociology as in socialism. Do not confuse the two. 

Quoting Ednarooni160:
Quoting mehamil1:

The KKK would never come to help. That's appples and oranges. Try again. 

Quoting Ednarooni160:
Quoting mehamil1:

Do you live in Chicago?

I do. 

This place is corrupt. That's all. Nothing more or less. Emanuel is a politician and the gays here are very organized and have a lot of money and a shit ton of power over the politicians. They cater to them. 

As for the Nation of Islam coming here, I will take anyone, and I mean anyone, if they have the ability to get people to stop killing one another. I'll take them. 

What they won't say in the media is the reason why this shit is happening here. There are no economic opportunties and people are too poor to move somewhere else. The resources are so scarce in that part of the city that the people are at each others throats. This is a fight for survival. Daley and his father did everything in their power to red line that area and impoverish all those people. They want them to kill each other. That's what they wanted. I don't know if Emanuel wants that as well. It wouldn't surprise me if he did. 

This place is a cess pool of corruption. The zoning laws make it so that no one can open a business without the say so of a lot of people. 

Would you accept the KKK if they came to help out?

I have no idea if they would offer to help or not..but comparing Farrakan and the KKK is not like apples and oranges.. They  BOTH hold  racist beliefs..


Ednarooni160
by Eds on Jul. 27, 2012 at 5:43 PM


Quoting GaleJ:

To compare the Nation of Islam with the KKK may have some validity in some people's minds but while the Nation of Islam may hold some hateful beliefs they do have a functional religious organization that includes a great deal more than just those particular views unlike the KKK.

One group hates white people and jews..the other hates black people and jews..what's the difference and it's a lose lose for the Jewish people. (imo) 

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