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Responses From Obama Supporters When Asked Why the Gov’t Should Pay for Contraception

Posted by on Aug. 9, 2012 at 2:55 PM
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Revealingpolitics Obama Fluke

From revealingpolitics.com comes these outrageous responses from Obama supporters outside the joint President Obama-Sandra Fluke campaign event in Denver on Wednesday.

The interviewees were all dead-set on the government not having any place in the bedroom. But following that up with why then should the government pay for the contraception used in the bedroom, they seemed to falter.

“The government has no place in our bedroom?” interviewer Caleb Bonham asked one woman.

“No,” she asserted.

“So you’re in support of contraception, government-funded contraception — why do you believe the government should pay for what goes on inside your bedroom?”

The woman paused before answering, “That’s a very good question.”

And then there was the interviewee who declared she was “like, all for abortion, all for birth control.”

“So, you don’t think the government should be involved in what goes on inside the bedroom, correct?” Bonham repeated.

“Oh exactly, oh not even close, no,” she replied.

“So then why do you expect the government to pay for what goes on inside the bedroom?”

Another pause. “Because…”

The woman in the next clip at least had an answer to that, stating, “if we had that more readily available then we wouldn’t have people out here starving, wouldn’t have–”

“So contraception solves hunger?” Bonham asked.

“Well I believe it has a big part in it, I really do,” she said.

Watch the video below:





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Citygirlk
by Shelby- on Aug. 10, 2012 at 12:12 AM
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Excuse me but not everyone thinks this way, so your posting this is just showing your ingnorance.
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jcrew6
by Jenney on Aug. 10, 2012 at 12:17 AM
Yes. That sarcasm was used with the extremists at tea party rallies. However, So many dems didn't care for it, then. I wonder what they think of your comment. Lol



Quoting AdellesMom:

Everyone knows that a few Obama supporters represent all Obama supporters.



*Sarcasm*

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jcrew6
by Jenney on Aug. 10, 2012 at 12:23 AM
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That education has been around for years. Accessible. And free.

Yet, here we are. Decades of entitlement spending to rid the nation of poverty. But poverty is at record levels. All when Obama loosened welfare guidelines.
Progress.


Quoting PamR:



Quote:

For BC to be effective, it require some level of... Here comes that word again... RESPONSABILITY! Your assumption is false in that someone who is so irresponsible as to pop out kids they can't afford will be responsible enough to take or effectively use BC. Also, BC doesn't come with a monthly pay check like kids do.


FAIL!

Yes - it does require responsibility.  And if you give people the education they need, provide the bc at an affordable cost and make it accessible, they are far more likely to use it and use it correctly.  And since "you don't do anything" with the children in our country who are starving and homeless because they have irresponsible parents, I would think this would be the better option in your eyes. There are many people who are trying their best to be good parents and provide, but still need help.  They are trying to be responsible. 




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Ednarooni160
by Eds on Aug. 10, 2012 at 12:32 AM


Quoting Citygirlk:

Excuse me but not everyone thinks this way, so your posting this is just showing your ingnorance.

We don't always post what everyone agrees with now do we..

im23vaughn
by Bronze Member on Aug. 10, 2012 at 12:53 AM
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ITA with those who say I pay enough in premiums to cover my birth control ( if I needed it). People spend thousands of dollars every year on medical insurance just to have the insurance company deny their procedure when they need one & kick them off when they become too expensive.

I keep hearing BC cost about $40 a month. Well hell I think the average American pays around $500 - 1000 a month of health insurance. The least the insurance company could do is pay for their BC seeing that most people don't go to the hospital at all. Most of them only go to their doctor once a year.

joey125
by Silver Member on Aug. 10, 2012 at 1:02 AM
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Why on earth is there so much focus on free birth control pills, what the heck is the  problem.  There is more to what is included in the ACA such as yearly physicals, no co payment, I just had one with a cardiogram, blood work etc no co payment,  Women will have more access to health care screenings without a co payment as well.  Again it is  part of the package when you buy health care, it is not free  and the government is not paying for it, people will buy insurance through a private insurance company there will be different plans to choose from according to what you may need and what you can afford.  Those making under the poverty level will receive medicaid  BC will in my opinion save the tax payer money in the long run less unwanted pregnancies, less welfare we all should be happy 

AdellesMom
by on Aug. 10, 2012 at 1:40 AM
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LOL!

There's no "A" in "responsibility."


Quoting ExecutiveChick:

For BC to be effective, it require some level of... Here comes that word again... RESPONSABILITY! Your assumption is false in that someone who is so irresponsible as to pop out kids they can't afford will be responsible enough to take or effectively use BC. Also, BC doesn't come with a monthly pay check like kids do.

FAIL!


Quoting PamR:

This is ridiculous.  Using this logic, why should insurance cover anything?  Do we want the government in our doctor's office with us, the hospital, etc.? 

While someone is hitting rock bottom, they may pop out a few babies who need food, shelter and medical care.  Who pays for that?  Is it more cost effective to provide birth control or to provide for poor children? 


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joyfree
by Member on Aug. 10, 2012 at 2:01 AM
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Of course, if you live in Mississippi and don't have transportation, it might be a BIT difficult to get to the ONE Planned Parenthood Clinic in Hattiesburg...sarcasmI don't remember it being "free" either. They use a sliding scale.

Quoting broncfan:

 "And if you give people the education they need, provide the bc at an affordable cost and make it accessible, they are far more likely to use it and use it correctly."

Every person in this country, legal or illegal can get that education, and bc is now and has for decades been available at no cost through planned parenthood.  The lack of educational opportunity is not an issue, the lack of the NEED to get this offered education is the issue. As long as there is just enough to keep one from starving some are happy to just get by in order NOT to have to do the work a day for a day's pay. I know this, I probably have 10 or 15 people a month come in to "interview" so they can stay on unemployment, they tell me up front they are not interested in a job, they just need that signature that says they have applied. I will not sign for those people, no way am I going to help them work the system. As long as we hand it out and expect nothing in return, many are going to do nothing and keep their hands out there for more. They are going to vote for the person that will promise them more for nothing in return and that leaves a smaller and smaller group of us that are paying for the ones with the hands out.  Most everyone I know is sick of it, if it takes "tough love" then that is what it needs to be, the worse the economy gets the more people that are paying for all of this are making up their minds that we need a REAL CHANGE this election.


joyfree
by Member on Aug. 10, 2012 at 2:20 AM
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It's all about the money and the bottom line for the money grubbers. For YEARS, my company insurance did not cover contraception, yet covered abortions. How crazy is that? It wasn't until the ob/gyn docs raised hell about women having to pay for their pills, etc., while Viagara was covered that they finally started covering the cost...

This crap about female medical costs didn't come up until the ACA was passed either. Remember the old jerk Senator or Congressman who groaned about having to help pay for someone to have a baby and how that would make HIS insurance higher even though it didn't directly benefit him? They just don't want to "pay" for women to have healthy children and to be healthy themselves. It reminds me of the people who vote against all the school levys because their children are grown. As long as this "I got mine, to hell with you" attitude prevails, we will have this supposed class warfare. People seem to forget or are ignorant of the fact that many of the people on the "dole" are mentally or physically handicapped and are incapable of holding even the most menial jobs which pay zilch anyway.


Quoting joey125:

Why on earth is there so much focus on free birth control pills, what the heck is the  problem.  There is more to what is included in the ACA such as yearly physicals, no co payment, I just had one with a cardiogram, blood work etc no co payment,  Women will have more access to health care screenings without a co payment as well.  Again it is  part of the package when you buy health care, it is not free  and the government is not paying for it, people will buy insurance through a private insurance company there will be different plans to choose from according to what you may need and what you can afford.  Those making under the poverty level will receive medicaid  BC will in my opinion save the tax payer money in the long run less unwanted pregnancies, less welfare we all should be happy 


joyfree
by Member on Aug. 10, 2012 at 2:22 AM
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sidesplittinglaughter

Quoting AdellesMom:

LOL!

There's no "A" in "responsibility."


Quoting ExecutiveChick:

For BC to be effective, it require some level of... Here comes that word again... RESPONSABILITY! Your assumption is false in that someone who is so irresponsible as to pop out kids they can't afford will be responsible enough to take or effectively use BC. Also, BC doesn't come with a monthly pay check like kids do.

FAIL!


Quoting PamR:

This is ridiculous.  Using this logic, why should insurance cover anything?  Do we want the government in our doctor's office with us, the hospital, etc.? 

While someone is hitting rock bottom, they may pop out a few babies who need food, shelter and medical care.  Who pays for that?  Is it more cost effective to provide birth control or to provide for poor children? 



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