Paul Ryan Slams Obama For Not Saving Auto Plant That Closed Under Bush
Paul Ryan Slams Obama For Not Saving Auto Plant That Closed Under Bush
Paul Ryan slammed President Obama on Thursday for failing to rescue an auto factory in his Wisconsin district — one that closed in 2008, under President George W. Bush.
The latest attack highlights the complicated politics of the auto rescue for Ryan, who was one of only a handful of Republicans to vote in favor of the 2008 bailout that President Bush signed as a stopgap measure to prevent the industry from going under.
“I remember President Obama visiting it when he was first running, saying he’ll keep that plant open,” Ryan said in Ohio Thursday, describing the shuttered GM factory in Janesville, Wis. “One more broken promise.”
Ryan blamed rising gas prices under Obama for the closing. He echoed the complaint in an interview with a local ABC affiliate, suggesting it showed that Obama’s auto rescue was a sham.
“It didn’t help Janesville,” he said. “They shut our plant down. It didn’t help Kenosha. I represent there; they shut down the Chrysler plant.”
The Detroit News noted that Obama said during a visit in early 2008 that government help and some restructuring could keep the plant open. But after the financial crisis and a collapse in demand for the SUVs the factory produced, it shut down in December 2008 in the waning days of Bush’s second term. It’s still owned by GM, but has been closed ever since.
That factory’s demise, as well as other subsequent closings, were a major economic blow to the region even as the broader national industry bounced back. Wisconsin’s federal lawmakersand the local auto workers pushed the administration in 2009 to divert funds and work with Chrysler and GM to save the area’s plants.
Both Ryan and Romney have unconventional positions on the auto bailout, although they reached them from different directions. In 2008, Ryan supported the Bush loans that Romney famously opposed in an editorial titled “Let Detroit Go Bankrupt.”
“What I voted for was to prevent a worse bailout,” Ryan told ABC9, claiming that he was afraid the president would use TARP money to go through with the plan if Congress didn’t direct funding itself. It was a view that few of his fellow Republicans in districts that didn’t include auto plants shared at the time — 150 Republicans voted against the bill, while 32 Republicans, mostly in similar auto-dependent districts, voted in favor of it.
Obama used the time bought by the bill to craft his own 2009 rescue plan, which industry leaders have hailed as the start of their successful turnaround. The president has since made their return to profitability a central theme of his re-election campaign.
But if Ryan’s newest take seems to be that the rescue failed, Romney has offered vague hints that he’d have acted similarly to rescue car companies from liquidation if necessary. He has also attacked Obama for not going far enough in aiding car dealerships.
Word.
Quoting GardenerArtist:
Paul Ryan voted for the GM bailout. pot meet kettle.
You are failing to realize that Obama was a senator in ILLINOIS not WISCONSIN. Have you looked into what the WISCONSIN politicians did for that company? Why are you blaming him for something he had no authority to even control! He was an ILLINOIS senator and the company was owned and operated in WISCONSIN. What are you failing to understand about that???? What was his job as a senator for the state of ILLINOIS for the people of WISCONSIN? I'm not comprehending this part. The company was in WISCONSIN. That means, and it's really simple, that this was an issue for the publically elected leaders in WISCONSIN to do something about. Why harp on Obama for something he had no authority to even do a damn thing about?!!?!?!?!!?
And yes, he bailed out the banks because he's a fucking puppet. Just like the rest of them. And don't think Romney wouldn't do the same exact thing. The rich and powerful tell politicians what to do. Screw the rest of us.
Quoting 29again:Take a chill pill, PLEASE!! Seriously, if I am that angry, I ignore the post for a while until I can calm down and say something rational that will most likely not offend everyone reading it. Maturity is good for something!
Again, how is the bank situation different from the auto situation? Did that plant closing not affect Obama's constituents? No, O did not have jurisdiction, but he could have done his job as a senator, is all. I know, though, that that is a whole lot to ask of someone running for president.... Just a question, no need for a thousand F-bombs thrown my way....
Quoting mehamil1:You are talking like a crazy person.
IL and Wis are neighbors. As far as I know, IL lawmakers do NOT have jurisdiction in Wisconsin. So why the FUCK would Obama have anything to do with what goes on in Wisconsin outside of a natural disaster and Wisconsin needed help and IL sent in aid?
Seriously, why the fuck are you people grasping at straws? All this stuff you all spout about "states rights" is just bullshit isn't it? You are so pissed off at Obama for God only knows what that you'll pull this shit out of your stupid fucking asses!
Yes, this was heated. I just had a huge fight with my mother. I apologize.
Quoting 29again:IL is how close to WI?? And if it is not that important to save these manufacturing jobs, why was it so all-fired important to save the banking jobs? Obama sure got on board for saving Wall Street in '08, didn't he? How is that different?
As I said, it obviously was not that important, it didn't matter that people in HIS constituency would be losing jobs when that plant closed. Or was he only the senator for Chicago?
Quoting matreshka:
Obama was not a senator from wi. Why didn't a senator from wi do something?
Quoting 29again:Quoting momof31995:
But then again I guess it was taken out of context or Bush's faultAbsolutely it was! Obama is a dem, he does not make mistakes....
(Don't worry, I didn't get the memo on that either.)
At any rate, if it closed in late '08, then Obama was still a senator, and could have done something... if he really wanted to, that is. Guess he didn't really care about a little auto plant in the middle of WI.
The Detroit Press noted that Obama said during a visit in early 2008 that
government help and some restructuring could keep the plant open. But
after the financial crisis and a collapse in demand for the SUVs the
factory produced, it shut down in December 2008 in the waning days of
Bush’s second term. It’s still owned by GM, but has been closed ever
since. Hmmm. December was after the election, when Obama was President-Elect, and helping to make policy, if I recall correctly.......
That factory’s demise, as well as other subsequent
closings, were a major economic blow to the region even as the broader
national industry bounced back. Wisconsin’s federal lawmakersand the local auto workers pushed the administration in 2009 to divert funds and work with Chrysler and GM to save the area’s plants. And this would be when Obama WAS president, and he did absolutely NOTHING.
Both Ryan and Romney have unconventional positions on the auto bailout, although they reached them from different directions. In 2008, Ryan supported the Bush loans that Romney famously opposed in an editorial titled “Let Detroit Go Bankrupt.”
“What I voted for was to prevent a worse bailout,” Ryan told ABC9, claiming that he was afraid the president would use TARP money to go through with the plan if Congress didn’t direct funding itself. It was a view that few of his fellow Republicans in districts that didn’t include auto plants shared at the time — 150 Republicans voted against the bill, while 32 Republicans, mostly in similar auto-dependent districts, voted in favor of it.
Quoting mehamil1:You are failing to realize that Obama was a senator in ILLINOIS not WISCONSIN. Have you looked into what the WISCONSIN politicians did for that company? Why are you blaming him for something he had no authority to even control! He was an ILLINOIS senator and the company was owned and operated in WISCONSIN. What are you failing to understand about that???? What was his job as a senator for the state of ILLINOIS for the people of WISCONSIN? I'm not comprehending this part. The company was in WISCONSIN. That means, and it's really simple, that this was an issue for the publically elected leaders in WISCONSIN to do something about. Why harp on Obama for something he had no authority to even do a damn thing about?!!?!?!?!!?
And yes, he bailed out the banks because he's a fucking puppet. Just like the rest of them. And don't think Romney wouldn't do the same exact thing. The rich and powerful tell politicians what to do. Screw the rest of us.
Quoting 29again:Take a chill pill, PLEASE!! Seriously, if I am that angry, I ignore the post for a while until I can calm down and say something rational that will most likely not offend everyone reading it. Maturity is good for something!
Again, how is the bank situation different from the auto situation? Did that plant closing not affect Obama's constituents? No, O did not have jurisdiction, but he could have done his job as a senator, is all. I know, though, that that is a whole lot to ask of someone running for president.... Just a question, no need for a thousand F-bombs thrown my way....
Quoting mehamil1:You are talking like a crazy person.
IL and Wis are neighbors. As far as I know, IL lawmakers do NOT have jurisdiction in Wisconsin. So why the FUCK would Obama have anything to do with what goes on in Wisconsin outside of a natural disaster and Wisconsin needed help and IL sent in aid?
Seriously, why the fuck are you people grasping at straws? All this stuff you all spout about "states rights" is just bullshit isn't it? You are so pissed off at Obama for God only knows what that you'll pull this shit out of your stupid fucking asses!
Yes, this was heated. I just had a huge fight with my mother. I apologize.
Quoting 29again:
No his dumb-ass didn't know. Oh wait, that must mean YOU think there are 57 states as well.
Quoting sweet-a-kins:
Yes he did
Quoting momof31995:
OBAMA DID NOT KNOW HOW MANY STATES THERE WERE AND YOU VOTED FOR HIS DUMBASS!
Let's not forget that Nancy and her cronies were already preparing for Barry's arrival. In fact, he was signing bills for his own administration when he was still a Senator. So a big part of the end of Bush's term that they keep hollering about wasn't Bush at all, it was them. They started in with spending money then & blaming it on Bush. Blaming, sound familiar? His motto could be, "I didn't say it was your fault, I said I was going to blame it on you."
Quoting 29again:The Detroit Press noted that Obama said during a visit in early 2008 that government help and some restructuring could keep the plant open. But after the financial crisis and a collapse in demand for the SUVs the factory produced, it shut down in December 2008 in the waning days of Bush’s second term. It’s still owned by GM, but has been closed ever since. Hmmm. December was after the election, when Obama was President-Elect, and helping to make policy, if I recall correctly.......
That factory’s demise, as well as other subsequent closings, were a major economic blow to the region even as the broader national industry bounced back. Wisconsin’s federal lawmakersand the local auto workers pushed the administration in 2009 to divert funds and work with Chrysler and GM to save the area’s plants. And this would be when Obama WAS president, and he did absolutely NOTHING.
Both Ryan and Romney have unconventional positions on the auto bailout, although they reached them from different directions. In 2008, Ryan supported the Bush loans that Romney famously opposed in an editorial titled “Let Detroit Go Bankrupt.”
“What I voted for was to prevent a worse bailout,” Ryan told ABC9, claiming that he was afraid the president would use TARP money to go through with the plan if Congress didn’t direct funding itself. It was a view that few of his fellow Republicans in districts that didn’t include auto plants shared at the time — 150 Republicans voted against the bill, while 32 Republicans, mostly in similar auto-dependent districts, voted in favor of it.
Quoting mehamil1:You are failing to realize that Obama was a senator in ILLINOIS not WISCONSIN. Have you looked into what the WISCONSIN politicians did for that company? Why are you blaming him for something he had no authority to even control! He was an ILLINOIS senator and the company was owned and operated in WISCONSIN. What are you failing to understand about that???? What was his job as a senator for the state of ILLINOIS for the people of WISCONSIN? I'm not comprehending this part. The company was in WISCONSIN. That means, and it's really simple, that this was an issue for the publically elected leaders in WISCONSIN to do something about. Why harp on Obama for something he had no authority to even do a damn thing about?!!?!?!?!!?
And yes, he bailed out the banks because he's a fucking puppet. Just like the rest of them. And don't think Romney wouldn't do the same exact thing. The rich and powerful tell politicians what to do. Screw the rest of us.
Quoting 29again:Take a chill pill, PLEASE!! Seriously, if I am that angry, I ignore the post for a while until I can calm down and say something rational that will most likely not offend everyone reading it. Maturity is good for something!
Again, how is the bank situation different from the auto situation? Did that plant closing not affect Obama's constituents? No, O did not have jurisdiction, but he could have done his job as a senator, is all. I know, though, that that is a whole lot to ask of someone running for president.... Just a question, no need for a thousand F-bombs thrown my way....
Quoting mehamil1:You are talking like a crazy person.
IL and Wis are neighbors. As far as I know, IL lawmakers do NOT have jurisdiction in Wisconsin. So why the FUCK would Obama have anything to do with what goes on in Wisconsin outside of a natural disaster and Wisconsin needed help and IL sent in aid?
Seriously, why the fuck are you people grasping at straws? All this stuff you all spout about "states rights" is just bullshit isn't it? You are so pissed off at Obama for God only knows what that you'll pull this shit out of your stupid fucking asses!
Yes, this was heated. I just had a huge fight with my mother. I apologize.
Quoting 29again:
A slip of the tongue from a highly educated man
Quoting Xlandria:No his dumb-ass didn't know. Oh wait, that must mean YOU think there are 57 states as well.
Quoting sweet-a-kins:
Yes he did
Quoting momof31995:
OBAMA DID NOT KNOW HOW MANY STATES THERE WERE AND YOU VOTED FOR HIS DUMBASS!
His term started January 2009
Quoting Xlandria:Let's not forget that Nancy and her cronies were already preparing for Barry's arrival. In fact, he was signing bills for his own administration when he was still a Senator. So a big part of the end of Bush's term that they keep hollering about wasn't Bush at all, it was them. They started in with spending money then & blaming it on Bush. Blaming, sound familiar? His motto could be, "I didn't say it was your fault, I said I was going to blame it on you."
Quoting 29again:The Detroit Press noted that Obama said during a visit in early 2008 that
government help and some restructuring could keep the plant open. But
after the financial crisis and a collapse in demand for the SUVs the
factory produced, it shut down in December 2008 in the waning days of
Bush’s second term. It’s still owned by GM, but has been closed ever
since. Hmmm. December was after the election, when Obama was President-Elect, and helping to make policy, if I recall correctly.......That factory’s demise, as well as other subsequent
closings, were a major economic blow to the region even as the broader
national industry bounced back. Wisconsin’s federal lawmakersand the local auto workers pushed the administration in 2009 to divert funds and work with Chrysler and GM to save the area’s plants. And this would be when Obama WAS president, and he did absolutely NOTHING.Both
Ryan and Romney have unconventional positions on the auto bailout,
although they reached them from different directions. In 2008, Ryan
supported the Bush loans that Romney famously opposed in an editorial
titled “Let Detroit Go Bankrupt.”“What
I voted for was to prevent a worse bailout,” Ryan told ABC9, claiming
that he was afraid the president would use TARP money to go through with
the plan if Congress didn’t direct funding itself. It was a view that
few of his fellow Republicans in districts that didn’t include auto
plants shared at the time — 150 Republicans voted against the bill,
while 32 Republicans, mostly in similar auto-dependent districts, voted in favor of it.Quoting mehamil1:You are failing to realize that Obama was a senator in ILLINOIS not WISCONSIN. Have you looked into what the WISCONSIN politicians did for that company? Why are you blaming him for something he had no authority to even control! He was an ILLINOIS senator and the company was owned and operated in WISCONSIN. What are you failing to understand about that???? What was his job as a senator for the state of ILLINOIS for the people of WISCONSIN? I'm not comprehending this part. The company was in WISCONSIN. That means, and it's really simple, that this was an issue for the publically elected leaders in WISCONSIN to do something about. Why harp on Obama for something he had no authority to even do a damn thing about?!!?!?!?!!?
And yes, he bailed out the banks because he's a fucking puppet. Just like the rest of them. And don't think Romney wouldn't do the same exact thing. The rich and powerful tell politicians what to do. Screw the rest of us.
Quoting 29again:Take a chill pill, PLEASE!! Seriously, if I am that angry, I ignore the post for a while until I can calm down and say something rational that will most likely not offend everyone reading it. Maturity is good for something!
Again, how is the bank situation different from the auto situation? Did that plant closing not affect Obama's constituents? No, O did not have jurisdiction, but he could have done his job as a senator, is all. I know, though, that that is a whole lot to ask of someone running for president.... Just a question, no need for a thousand F-bombs thrown my way....
Quoting mehamil1:You are talking like a crazy person.
IL and Wis are neighbors. As far as I know, IL lawmakers do NOT have jurisdiction in Wisconsin. So why the FUCK would Obama have anything to do with what goes on in Wisconsin outside of a natural disaster and Wisconsin needed help and IL sent in aid?
Seriously, why the fuck are you people grasping at straws? All this stuff you all spout about "states rights" is just bullshit isn't it? You are so pissed off at Obama for God only knows what that you'll pull this shit out of your stupid fucking asses!
Yes, this was heated. I just had a huge fight with my mother. I apologize.
Quoting 29again:
Quoting 29again:The Detroit Press noted that Obama said during a visit in early 2008 that
government help and some restructuring could keep the plant open. But
after the financial crisis and a collapse in demand for the SUVs the
factory produced, it shut down in December 2008 in the waning days of
Bush’s second term. It’s still owned by GM, but has been closed ever
since. Hmmm. December was after the election, when Obama was President-Elect, and helping to make policy, if I recall correctly.......That factory’s demise, as well as other subsequent
closings, were a major economic blow to the region even as the broader
national industry bounced back. Wisconsin’s federal lawmakersand the local auto workers pushed the administration in 2009 to divert funds and work with Chrysler and GM to save the area’s plants. And this would be when Obama WAS president, and he did absolutely NOTHING.Both
Ryan and Romney have unconventional positions on the auto bailout,
although they reached them from different directions. In 2008, Ryan
supported the Bush loans that Romney famously opposed in an editorial
titled “Let Detroit Go Bankrupt.”“What
I voted for was to prevent a worse bailout,” Ryan told ABC9, claiming
that he was afraid the president would use TARP money to go through with
the plan if Congress didn’t direct funding itself. It was a view that
few of his fellow Republicans in districts that didn’t include auto
plants shared at the time — 150 Republicans voted against the bill,
while 32 Republicans, mostly in similar auto-dependent districts, voted in favor of it.Quoting mehamil1:You are failing to realize that Obama was a senator in ILLINOIS not WISCONSIN. Have you looked into what the WISCONSIN politicians did for that company? Why are you blaming him for something he had no authority to even control! He was an ILLINOIS senator and the company was owned and operated in WISCONSIN. What are you failing to understand about that???? What was his job as a senator for the state of ILLINOIS for the people of WISCONSIN? I'm not comprehending this part. The company was in WISCONSIN. That means, and it's really simple, that this was an issue for the publically elected leaders in WISCONSIN to do something about. Why harp on Obama for something he had no authority to even do a damn thing about?!!?!?!?!!?
And yes, he bailed out the banks because he's a fucking puppet. Just like the rest of them. And don't think Romney wouldn't do the same exact thing. The rich and powerful tell politicians what to do. Screw the rest of us.
Quoting 29again:Take a chill pill, PLEASE!! Seriously, if I am that angry, I ignore the post for a while until I can calm down and say something rational that will most likely not offend everyone reading it. Maturity is good for something!
Again, how is the bank situation different from the auto situation? Did that plant closing not affect Obama's constituents? No, O did not have jurisdiction, but he could have done his job as a senator, is all. I know, though, that that is a whole lot to ask of someone running for president.... Just a question, no need for a thousand F-bombs thrown my way....
Quoting mehamil1:You are talking like a crazy person.
IL and Wis are neighbors. As far as I know, IL lawmakers do NOT have jurisdiction in Wisconsin. So why the FUCK would Obama have anything to do with what goes on in Wisconsin outside of a natural disaster and Wisconsin needed help and IL sent in aid?
Seriously, why the fuck are you people grasping at straws? All this stuff you all spout about "states rights" is just bullshit isn't it? You are so pissed off at Obama for God only knows what that you'll pull this shit out of your stupid fucking asses!
Yes, this was heated. I just had a huge fight with my mother. I apologize.
Quoting 29again:
“I remember President Obama visiting it when he was first running, saying he’ll keep that plant open,” Ryan said in Ohio Thursday, describing the shuttered GM factory in Janesville, Wis. “One more broken promise.
It appears to me that Ryan is blasting PBO for breaking a promise made more than not giving the plant bail out money.
He couldn't keep it open as it closed before he was in office....had it remained open...it COULD have been saved
Quoting jesse123456:“I remember President Obama visiting it when he was first running, saying he’ll keep that plant open,” Ryan said in Ohio Thursday, describing the shuttered GM factory in Janesville, Wis. “One more broken promise.
It appears to me that Ryan is blasting PBO for breaking a promise made more than not giving the plant bail out money.
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