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STATE DEPT. HAD ‘CREDIBLE INFORMATION' 48 HOURS PRIOR TO LIBYA CONSULATE ATTACK BUT FAILED TO ACT

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REPORT: STATE DEPT. HAD ‘CREDIBLE INFORMATION' 48 HOURS PRIOR TO LIBYA CONSULATE ATTACK BUT FAILED TO ACT

Senior diplomatic sources say the U.S. State Department had credible information, 48 hours prior to the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya and the embassy in Cairo, that American locations may be targeted, however, no warnings were issued, no "lock down" orders given, The Independent reports.

On Tuesday, a mob of radical Islamists stormed the consulate in Benghazi, killing U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans in a fiery assault. Officials say the murders of the four men were likely the result of "a serious and continuing security breach," the report states.

Report: State Dept. Had Credible Information 48 Hours Prior to Libya Consulate Attack

A picture shows the damage inside the burnt US consulate building in Benghazi on September 13, 2012, following an attack on the building late on September 11 in which the US ambassador to Libya and three other US nationals were killed. Libya said it has made arrests and opened a probe into the attack, amid speculation that Al-Qaeda rather than a frenzied mob was to blame. (Credit: AFP/Getty Images)

U.S. officials now believe the Libya attack was premeditated, despite initial reports that an anti-Muslim YouTube clip sparked spontaneous riots throughout the Middle East. However, Stevens' return to Libya was intended to be confidential as well as his location in Benghazi, where he and his staff were murdered, raising additional security concerns for American assets in the country.

The attack was an organized two-part operation by heavily armed militants that included a precisely timed raid on the supposedly secret safe house just as Libyan and U.S. security forces were arriving to rescue evacuated consulate staff, a senior Libyan security official said on Thursday.

Wanis el-Sharef, eastern Libya's deputy interior minister, said the attacks Tuesday night were suspected to have been timed to mark the 9/11 anniversary, with the militants using the film protest by Libyan civilians to mask their action.

To make the crisis in Libya worse, "sensitive documents" have reportedly gone missing from the U.S. consulate in Benghazi as well as a secret location of a "safe house" in the city, where the consulate staff had retreated to but were bombarded with a mortar attack. Other "safe houses" in the region are no longer considered safe.

The Independent has the exclusive on this story:

Some of the missing papers from the consulate are said to list names of Libyans who are working with Americans, putting them potentially at risk from extremist groups, while some of the other documents are said to relate to oil contracts.

According to senior diplomatic sources, the US State Department had credible information 48 hours before mobs charged the consulate in Benghazi, and the embassy in Cairo, that American missions may be targeted, but no warnings were given for diplomats to go on high alert and "lockdown", under which movement is severely restricted.

Mr Stevens had been on a visit to Germany, Austria and Sweden and had just returned to Libya when the Benghazi trip took place with the US embassy's security staff deciding that the trip could be undertaken safely.

Eight Americans, some from the military, were wounded in the attack which claimed the lives of Mr Stevens, Sean Smith, an information officer, and two US Marines. All staff from Benghazi have now been moved to the capital, Tripoli, and those whose work is deemed to be non-essential may be flown out of Libya.

[...]

There is growing belief that the attack was in revenge for the killing in a drone strike in Pakistan of Mohammed Hassan Qaed, an al-Qa'ida operative who was, as his nom-de-guerre Abu Yahya al-Libi suggests, from Libya, and timed for the anniversary of the 11 September attacks.

Eastern Libya's deputy interior minister, Wanis el-Sharef, said a mob first stormed the consulate Tuesday night and then, hours later, raided a safe house in the compound just as U.S. and Libyan security arrived to evacuate the staff. That suggested, el-Sharef said, that infiltrators within the security forces may have tipped off the militants to the safe house's location.

Killed in the attack were U.S. Ambassador Stevens, information management officer Sean Smith, private security guard Glen Doherty and one other American who has yet to be identified.

Report: State Dept. Had Credible Information 48 Hours Prior to Libya Consulate Attack

A vehicle (R) and the surround buildings burn after they were set on fire inside the US consulate compound in Benghazi late on September 11, 2012. An armed mob protesting over a film they said offended Islam, attacked the US consulate in Benghazi and set fire to the building, killing one American, witnesses and officials said. (Credit: AFP/Getty Images)

Report: State Dept. Had Credible Information 48 Hours Prior to Libya Consulate Attack

An armed man waves his rifle as buildings and cars are engulfed in flames after being set on fire inside the US consulate compound in Benghazi late on September 11, 2012. An armed mob protesting over a film they said offended Islam, attacked the US consulate in Benghazi and set fire to the building, killing one American, witnesses and officials said. (Credit: AFP/Getty Images)

El-Sharef said four people were arrested at their homes Thursday in relation to the attack, but he refused to give any further details. He said it was too early to say if the suspects belonged to a particular group or what their motive was. Libya's new prime minister, Mustafa Abu-Shakour, said authorities were looking for more suspects.

Additionally, U.S. embassies across the world ramped up security Thursday as Muslims reportedly angry over an anti-Islam film stormed the U.S. mission in Yemen and clashed with police near the American mission in Cairo.

In Yemen, hundreds of protesters chanting "Death to America!" stormed the U.S. Embassy compound in the capital, Sanaa, and burned the American flag. Yemen's president, Abed Rabbo Mansour Hadi, quickly apologized to the U.S. for the attack and vowed track down the culprits.

 

To read the rest of the report from The Independent, click here.

by on Sep. 13, 2012 at 9:34 PM
Replies (31-40):
imamomzilla
by on Sep. 14, 2012 at 5:53 PM

 high five

Quoting Simmeringhearts:

The same can be said about those of you that excuse everything Obama does or does not do! But, you can skip the eyes being opened and just shut your mouths.

Quoting notonepercenter:

Did you all read the entire article?  It doesn't offer any specifics - just like Romney!  It only gives general insinuations that their was "credible information" 48 hours prior to the attacks.  "48 hours prior to the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya and the embassy in Cairo, that American locations may be targeted. . . ." - no shit!?!?!  Well, hello, there has actually been credible information of a future attack since 9/11/01, right?  This "headline" that you are all frothing over, is more sensationalism to slam our Commander in Chief.  Those of you smitten with Mittens, really need to open your eyes and shut yo' mouths!   

 

 

 

PeeperSqueak
by on Sep. 14, 2012 at 5:54 PM
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He did know about it.....he's just so above it all and didn't have the time for such things....you know the parties, campaigning and the appearance on Letterman.  He is despicable !

Quoting imamomzilla:

 Sick. It happened on the anniversary of 9/11. Anyone with two braincells to rub together knew that wasn't a mere coincidence. That "movie" has been out since July.

If Obama was briefed and he knew...? Oy. Just another example of his incompetence.


SallyMJ
by Ruby Member on Sep. 14, 2012 at 7:41 PM
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I doubt seriously that "Obama didn't want to be bothered".  That  judgment cannot possibly be true. It seems there was a failure of leadership in the State Department to take action on credible information. Doesn't mean Obama doesn't care if people die. Of course he does! This statement denigrates both the person it allegedly is about, and also the person who says it. 

And I think we may be alike politically. Please take off your political hat, and put your humanity one on: Four of our fellow Americans were brutally murdered.

Quoting gsprofval:

The West Wing should be on edge. This whole thing looks like obama didn't want to be bothered and now people are dead because he wanted to go campaign and no do the job he is paid to do.


SallyMJ
by Ruby Member on Sep. 14, 2012 at 7:51 PM
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That's pretty scary, huh? I would think it would be like when you are in school. You attend almost every day, with the exceptions of illness, or a family emergency. I think those meetings are one of the first events of the day. That should be part of the daily routine as much as showering, getting dressed, breakfast, a cup of coffee, exercising. The disturbing thing is I seem to remember that Pres. Obama to date has made less than half of those meetings - and that is before campaigning. Sadly, even with four American diplomats murdered, that percentage of intelligence briefings, will most likely continue to decrease over the next two months.

Quoting Simmeringhearts:

According to the White House calendar, there is no public record of President Barack Obama attending his daily intelligence briefing--known as the Presidential Daily Brief (PDB)--in the week leading up to the attacks. The last time prior to the slayings that the White House calendar publicly confirms Mr. Obama attending his daily intelligence briefing was September 5th. (The White House did not provide an official public calendar for September 8-10.) Mr. Obama and Vice President Joe Biden met with Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta at 5:00 p.m. yesterday.

According to a recent study by the Government Accountability Institute, Mr. Obama has only attended 43.8 percent of his Presidential Daily Briefs in the first 1,225 days of his Administration.


Simmeringhearts
by on Sep. 15, 2012 at 2:09 PM
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If he cared so much, he would have put his campaigning on hold. And we all know he didn't. Time for a real leader.

Quoting SallyMJ:

I doubt seriously that "Obama didn't want to be bothered".  That  judgment cannot possibly be true. It seems there was a failure of leadership in the State Department to take action on credible information. Doesn't mean Obama doesn't care if people die. Of course he does! This statement denigrates both the person it allegedly is about, and also the person who says it. 

And I think we may be alike politically. Please take off your political hat, and put your humanity one on: Four of our fellow Americans were brutally murdered.

Quoting gsprofval:

The West Wing should be on edge. This whole thing looks like obama didn't want to be bothered and now people are dead because he wanted to go campaign and no do the job he is paid to do.



Simmeringhearts
by on Sep. 15, 2012 at 2:10 PM
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It is more than just scary. It is arrogant of him. He thinks he is above all of this. And that he doesn't need to do what he was elected to do. And he wasn't elected to be kissing butts of the people that want to do us harm.

Quoting SallyMJ:

That's pretty scary, huh? I would think it would be like when you are in school. You attend almost every day, with the exceptions of illness, or a family emergency. I think those meetings are one of the first events of the day. That should be part of the daily routine as much as showering, getting dressed, breakfast, a cup of coffee, exercising. The disturbing thing is I seem to remember that Pres. Obama to date has made less than half of those meetings - and that is before campaigning. Sadly, even with four American diplomats murdered, that percentage of intelligence briefings, will most likely continue to decrease over the next two months.

Quoting Simmeringhearts:

According to the White House calendar, there is no public record of President Barack Obama attending his daily intelligence briefing--known as the Presidential Daily Brief (PDB)--in the week leading up to the attacks. The last time prior to the slayings that the White House calendar publicly confirms Mr. Obama attending his daily intelligence briefing was September 5th. (The White House did not provide an official public calendar for September 8-10.) Mr. Obama and Vice President Joe Biden met with Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta at 5:00 p.m. yesterday.

According to a recent study by the Government Accountability Institute, Mr. Obama has only attended 43.8 percent of his Presidential Daily Briefs in the first 1,225 days of his Administration.



shimamab
by on Sep. 15, 2012 at 2:30 PM

"Dana Milbank of the Washington Post fact-checks another GOPropoganda lie that started with a column written by the Washingon Post's Marc Thiessen, a former speech writer for George W. Bush. Romney and his bucket brigade:
As Romney has pursued his kitchen-sink strategy this week, he and his party have pivoted from the economy, where Obama is most vulnerable, to national security, where Obama is strongest. The outcome has been a series of dubious attacks.
On Monday, Romney tried to blame the president for scheduled defense-spending cuts put in place by the bipartisan debt deal reached last year. The idea “emanated from the White House, and it will result in the loss of thousands and thousands and hundreds of thousands of jobs,” he said. Evidently, Romney didn’t consider that this attack contradicted his previous claim that private-sector investment, not big government spending, creates jobs.
About the same time, the Republican National Committee and prominent Republicans such as Dick Cheney and John McCain threw another faulty bit of plumbing at Obama: that the president “does not attend his daily intelligence meeting” more than half the time, in contrast to George W. Bush, who “almost never missed his daily intelligence meeting.” This claim was the work of former Bush speechwriter Marc Thiessen, who writes a weekly online column for The Washington Post.
In reality, Obama didn’t “attend” these meetings, because there were no meetings to attend: The oral briefings had been mostly replaced by daily exchanges in which Obama reads the materials and poses written questions and comments to intelligence officials. This is how it was done in the Clinton administration, before Bush decided he would prefer to read less. Bush’s results — Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction, and the failure to find Osama bin Laden — suggest this was not an obvious improvement.
So it is a fiction entirely made up out of whole cloth. But the right-wing noise machine, including our own embarrassment from Arizona, Sen. John McCain, has perpetuated this GOPropganda lie.
UPDATE: Steve Benen has more, The bogus 'intelligence briefings' talking point:
The truth, as Thiessen probably realizes, isn't controversial at all. In reality, Obama received a detailed, written intelligence briefing yesterday, just as he does literally every day, which contained pressing national security information. Most of the time, Obama also receives an in-person briefing in the White House, though as Thiessen probably realizes, many of the president's national security meetings are never put on his public schedule (Jonathan Capehart):
The weakness in Thiessen’s question, which comes from data gathered by a conservative research organization, is that it relies on Obama’s public schedule. The president reads the daily intelligence briefing every day. That he doesn’t meet with his national security staff to discuss it isn’t earth shattering when you know that many of the president’s national security meetings are never put on his public schedule.
“I’d note that these are hardly the only national security meetings he has each week that include an intelligence briefing,” National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor told me via e-mail this morning.
* * *
“[T]he president is among the most sophisticated consumers of intelligence on the planet,” Vietor told me. “He receives and reads his PDB every day, and most days when he’s at the White House receives a briefing in person. When necessary he probes the arguments, requests more information or seeks alternate analysis. Sometimes that’s via a written assessment and other times it’s in person.”

HAVE SEEN THIS INFO MANY PLACES, QUICKLY PICKED THIS LINK:
http://www.blogforarizona.com/blog/2012/09/dana-milbank-fact-checks-the-pdb-right-wing-lie-.html?cid=6a00d8341bf80c53ef017744ba0426970d
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SallyMJ
by Ruby Member on Sep. 15, 2012 at 4:51 PM
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True - and hobnobbing it in Vegas and with Beyonce and Letterman just doesn't cut it as a Commander-in-Chief when the Middle East is on fire. Doesn't he realize he has a job? And it's not Campaigner-in-Chief.

Quoting Simmeringhearts:

If he cared so much, he would have put his campaigning on hold. And we all know he didn't. Time for a real leader.

Quoting SallyMJ:

I doubt seriously that "Obama didn't want to be bothered".  That  judgment cannot possibly be true. It seems there was a failure of leadership in the State Department to take action on credible information. Doesn't mean Obama doesn't care if people die. Of course he does! This statement denigrates both the person it allegedly is about, and also the person who says it. 

And I think we may be alike politically. Please take off your political hat, and put your humanity one on: Four of our fellow Americans were brutally murdered.

Quoting gsprofval:

The West Wing should be on edge. This whole thing looks like obama didn't want to be bothered and now people are dead because he wanted to go campaign and no do the job he is paid to do.




SallyMJ
by Ruby Member on Sep. 15, 2012 at 4:55 PM
2 moms liked this

AND... I hear Obama reads briefings (not sure if they are intelligence briefings) on a cell phone, "secure", yes, but also able to be remotely disabled. Reading a phone not at all the same as meeting with your cabinet members and advisors. If GWB had done this, he would have been pilloried more than he was (if that is even possible).

Quoting Simmeringhearts:

It is more than just scary. It is arrogant of him. He thinks he is above all of this. And that he doesn't need to do what he was elected to do. And he wasn't elected to be kissing butts of the people that want to do us harm.

Quoting SallyMJ:

That's pretty scary, huh? I would think it would be like when you are in school. You attend almost every day, with the exceptions of illness, or a family emergency. I think those meetings are one of the first events of the day. That should be part of the daily routine as much as showering, getting dressed, breakfast, a cup of coffee, exercising. The disturbing thing is I seem to remember that Pres. Obama to date has made less than half of those meetings - and that is before campaigning. Sadly, even with four American diplomats murdered, that percentage of intelligence briefings, will most likely continue to decrease over the next two months.

Quoting Simmeringhearts:

According to the White House calendar, there is no public record of President Barack Obama attending his daily intelligence briefing--known as the Presidential Daily Brief (PDB)--in the week leading up to the attacks. The last time prior to the slayings that the White House calendar publicly confirms Mr. Obama attending his daily intelligence briefing was September 5th. (The White House did not provide an official public calendar for September 8-10.) Mr. Obama and Vice President Joe Biden met with Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta at 5:00 p.m. yesterday.

According to a recent study by the Government Accountability Institute, Mr. Obama has only attended 43.8 percent of his Presidential Daily Briefs in the first 1,225 days of his Administration.




Simmeringhearts
by on Sep. 15, 2012 at 5:10 PM

Many have said that there were actual meetings.

Quoting shimamab:


"Dana Milbank of the Washington Post fact-checks another GOPropoganda lie that started with a column written by the Washingon Post's Marc Thiessen, a former speech writer for George W. Bush. Romney and his bucket brigade:
As Romney has pursued his kitchen-sink strategy this week, he and his party have pivoted from the economy, where Obama is most vulnerable, to national security, where Obama is strongest. The outcome has been a series of dubious attacks.
On Monday, Romney tried to blame the president for scheduled defense-spending cuts put in place by the bipartisan debt deal reached last year. The idea “emanated from the White House, and it will result in the loss of thousands and thousands and hundreds of thousands of jobs,” he said. Evidently, Romney didn’t consider that this attack contradicted his previous claim that private-sector investment, not big government spending, creates jobs.
About the same time, the Republican National Committee and prominent Republicans such as Dick Cheney and John McCain threw another faulty bit of plumbing at Obama: that the president “does not attend his daily intelligence meeting” more than half the time, in contrast to George W. Bush, who “almost never missed his daily intelligence meeting.” This claim was the work of former Bush speechwriter Marc Thiessen, who writes a weekly online column for The Washington Post.
In reality, Obama didn’t “attend” these meetings, because there were no meetings to attend: The oral briefings had been mostly replaced by daily exchanges in which Obama reads the materials and poses written questions and comments to intelligence officials. This is how it was done in the Clinton administration, before Bush decided he would prefer to read less. Bush’s results — Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction, and the failure to find Osama bin Laden — suggest this was not an obvious improvement.
So it is a fiction entirely made up out of whole cloth. But the right-wing noise machine, including our own embarrassment from Arizona, Sen. John McCain, has perpetuated this GOPropganda lie.
UPDATE: Steve Benen has more, The bogus 'intelligence briefings' talking point:
The truth, as Thiessen probably realizes, isn't controversial at all. In reality, Obama received a detailed, written intelligence briefing yesterday, just as he does literally every day, which contained pressing national security information. Most of the time, Obama also receives an in-person briefing in the White House, though as Thiessen probably realizes, many of the president's national security meetings are never put on his public schedule (Jonathan Capehart):
The weakness in Thiessen’s question, which comes from data gathered by a conservative research organization, is that it relies on Obama’s public schedule. The president reads the daily intelligence briefing every day. That he doesn’t meet with his national security staff to discuss it isn’t earth shattering when you know that many of the president’s national security meetings are never put on his public schedule.
“I’d note that these are hardly the only national security meetings he has each week that include an intelligence briefing,” National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor told me via e-mail this morning.
* * *
“[T]he president is among the most sophisticated consumers of intelligence on the planet,” Vietor told me. “He receives and reads his PDB every day, and most days when he’s at the White House receives a briefing in person. When necessary he probes the arguments, requests more information or seeks alternate analysis. Sometimes that’s via a written assessment and other times it’s in person.”

HAVE SEEN THIS INFO MANY PLACES, QUICKLY PICKED THIS LINK:
http://www.blogforarizona.com/blog/2012/09/dana-milbank-fact-checks-the-pdb-right-wing-lie-.html?cid=6a00d8341bf80c53ef017744ba0426970d


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