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53 Seconds that Should End a Presidency

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by on Sep. 14, 2012 at 9:57 AM
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rocketracer
by Gold Member on Sep. 14, 2012 at 11:47 AM
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At a time when the Arab Spring is exploding, no problem with Obama attending a political rally/fund raiser for himself in Vegas? (BTW: In his Cairo speech Obama helped to inspire the Arab Spring)

Quoting CDMelty:

Nothing is wrong with that. My issue isn't with him keeping his composure until he was out of their sight. My issue is with him waiting so long to get out of their sight. You can jump into action without literally jumping, and you can do it calmly. There's a big gray area between sitting htere listening to a children's story doing nothing, and running in circles panicking.

Quoting Lisha77:

That would have been the wrong reaction in a classroom full of children. Dubya kept his composure and waited until he was out of the sight of the little ones before handling business. What is wrong with that?

Quoting CDMelty:

And yet the republicans didn't feel Bush's presidency should end after he sat in that classroom listening to story time rather than jumping to action when we were attacked on 9/11.

 


CDMelty
by Member on Sep. 14, 2012 at 11:48 AM

Well now that I've googled truther to find out what it even means, I can say without a doubt that I am NOT a truther, and I don't really believe in conspiracy theories at all anyway. I just love how people can pretend Bush never did anythign wrong, or that he was an intelligent man. I don't think he was an idiot, or that he was special needs or anything, but the guy just froze. It was bizarre. And to post a video implying that Obama should lose an election because somebody on youtube spliced together 53 seconds of "um"s and "uh"s and "err"s, and then act shocked when someone mentions all the seconds Bush spent sitting in a classroom doing absolutely jack shit nothing during an attack is ridiculous. I mean, at least respond with "Yeah that didn't look so good, and the video I posted is just a joke, but it's a kind of funny joke if you're a republican so I posted it for a laugh." But no one is saying that. They're all seriously defending the doing nothing part, as though that was some sound solid military strategy.

Quoting imamomzilla:

 Let me guess....you're a Truther?

Quoting CDMelty:

Nothing is wrong with that. My issue isn't with him keeping his composure until he was out of their sight. My issue is with him waiting so long to get out of their sight. You can jump into action without literally jumping, and you can do it calmly. There's a big gray area between sitting htere listening to a children's story doing nothing, and running in circles panicking.

Quoting Lisha77:

That would have been the wrong reaction in a classroom full of children. Dubya kept his composure and waited until he was out of the sight of the little ones before handling business. What is wrong with that?

Quoting CDMelty:

And yet the republicans didn't feel Bush's presidency should end after he sat in that classroom listening to story time rather than jumping to action when we were attacked on 9/11.


 


Sisteract
by Socialist Hippie on Sep. 14, 2012 at 11:49 AM
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I have no problem with either President's (W or BO) response at the time of crisis. I do not want a reactive POTUS- I prefer cool response.

Now what about those latest swing state poll number released today? MR had better get on his horse (or Ann's) LOL-

notonepercenter
by Bronze Member on Sep. 14, 2012 at 11:54 AM


Quoting imamomzilla:

 That extra 30 seconds would have made that much of a difference? *smh

If it were not for the bravery of passengers on the plane, the underwear bomber would have succeeded in creating ciaos. That's all we've had since Obummer was anointed. CIAOS. TSA frisking old people and checking diapers. Sick. Depraved.

Our currency devalued, credit rating down graded. Oy. Deficits as far as the eye can see..........

How can anyone defend this inept man? It boggles my mind!

Quoting CDMelty:

He should have stood up, said "I'm sorry to leave early but something's come up. I'm really glad to have met you all and I hope to be able to come back and hear the rest of this story as soon as I can." and then he should have left to meet with military and intelligence leaders. That's what he should have done.

We don't know that he kept us safe. We just know that neither the shoe bomber nor underwear bomber had good bombs to begin with. If they had had good bombs, if the shoe bomber's plane had blown up and the passengers had dies, would Bush get the credit for that the same way he gets the credit for all the planes that haven't been blown up? Does Obama get credit for allt he planes that don't blow up now? Where does a president's credit end?

 

Quoting imamomzilla:

 How should he have reacted? Run out of the room, screaming? No, that wouldn't frighten the small, impressionable children, would it?

Fact of the matter is- he kept us SAFE after the attacks.

 

Quoting CDMelty:

And yet the republicans didn't feel Bush's presidency should end after he sat in that classroom listening to story time rather than jumping to action when we were attacked on 9/11.

 

 

 

Sorry - spell check time.  Chaos I believe is what you are trying to spell.  And, the TSA is trying to protect your non-spelling ass from "sick and depraved" individuals.  I'm sure it is does "boggle your mind" that someone will defend the President of the U.S., instead of standing in line with truly "inept" people of your kind.  You would be the first to complain if our government wouldn't have ramped up our security efforts at airports.  What a stupid comment!

imamomzilla
by on Sep. 14, 2012 at 11:58 AM
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 WHEW!

OK, well I'm no fan of Bush...never implied that he did "nothing wrong". But I'd reserve judgement about the way he reacted without walking a mile in his shoes.

I can remember where I was when I'd heard the awful news and watched the second plane crash. Frozen in pure terror. :-(

Quoting CDMelty:

Well now that I've googled truther to find out what it even means, I can say without a doubt that I am NOT a truther, and I don't really believe in conspiracy theories at all anyway. I just love how people can pretend Bush never did anythign wrong, or that he was an intelligent man. I don't think he was an idiot, or that he was special needs or anything, but the guy just froze. It was bizarre. And to post a video implying that Obama should lose an election because somebody on youtube spliced together 53 seconds of "um"s and "uh"s and "err"s, and then act shocked when someone mentions all the seconds Bush spent sitting in a classroom doing absolutely jack shit nothing during an attack is ridiculous. I mean, at least respond with "Yeah that didn't look so good, and the video I posted is just a joke, but it's a kind of funny joke if you're a republican so I posted it for a laugh." But no one is saying that. They're all seriously defending the doing nothing part, as though that was some sound solid military strategy.

Quoting imamomzilla:

 Let me guess....you're a Truther?

Quoting CDMelty:

Nothing is wrong with that. My issue isn't with him keeping his composure until he was out of their sight. My issue is with him waiting so long to get out of their sight. You can jump into action without literally jumping, and you can do it calmly. There's a big gray area between sitting htere listening to a children's story doing nothing, and running in circles panicking.

Quoting Lisha77:

That would have been the wrong reaction in a classroom full of children. Dubya kept his composure and waited until he was out of the sight of the little ones before handling business. What is wrong with that?

Quoting CDMelty:

And yet the republicans didn't feel Bush's presidency should end after he sat in that classroom listening to story time rather than jumping to action when we were attacked on 9/11.

 

 

 

 

 

CDMelty
by Member on Sep. 14, 2012 at 12:01 PM

I do not believe that Obama's speech inspired the Arab Spring. I do not belive that the Middle East would have been a happy and peaceful place devoid of uprisings were it not for Obama.

Like I said in a previous post, both roles- photo op dignitary and commander in chief- are a president's job. I have no problem with Bush being at that elementary school even though there were wars in the world and enemies of ours at large. I have no problem with Obama going to fundraisers while there are wars in the world and enemies of ours at large. But if we are attacked, if people are actively and currently attacking America right here right now, and Obama is doing a photo op or fundraiser, hears about it, and decides to continue the photo op or fundraiser rather than leave it to attend to more serious national security business, I would have a problem with it. When the Arab Spring moved to Chicago, then the comparison will be fair.

Quoting rocketracer:

At a time when the Arab Spring is exploding, no problem with Obama attending a political rally/fund raiser for himself in Vegas? (BTW: In his Cairo speech Obama helped to inspire the Arab Spring)

Quoting CDMelty:

Nothing is wrong with that. My issue isn't with him keeping his composure until he was out of their sight. My issue is with him waiting so long to get out of their sight. You can jump into action without literally jumping, and you can do it calmly. There's a big gray area between sitting htere listening to a children's story doing nothing, and running in circles panicking.

Quoting Lisha77:

That would have been the wrong reaction in a classroom full of children. Dubya kept his composure and waited until he was out of the sight of the little ones before handling business. What is wrong with that?

Quoting CDMelty:

And yet the republicans didn't feel Bush's presidency should end after he sat in that classroom listening to story time rather than jumping to action when we were attacked on 9/11.




CDMelty
by Member on Sep. 14, 2012 at 12:05 PM

I froze in shock and terror too. I wasn't the president, nor do I think I'd be capable of being president. I have higher expectations of world leaders than I do of the average person. I want my president to be more capable than I am. I don't claim to be able to jump into action if I get a phone call at 3am saying we've been bombed. I really really hope a president would say more than "Huh? Wha? It's the middle of the night, let me grab some coffee first." Which is probably what I'd say.

Quoting imamomzilla:

 WHEW!

OK, well I'm no fan of Bush...never implied that he did "nothing wrong". But I'd reserve judgement about the way he reacted without walking a mile in his shoes.

I can remember where I was when I'd heard the awful news and watched the second plane crash. Frozen in pure terror. :-(

Quoting CDMelty:

Well now that I've googled truther to find out what it even means, I can say without a doubt that I am NOT a truther, and I don't really believe in conspiracy theories at all anyway. I just love how people can pretend Bush never did anythign wrong, or that he was an intelligent man. I don't think he was an idiot, or that he was special needs or anything, but the guy just froze. It was bizarre. And to post a video implying that Obama should lose an election because somebody on youtube spliced together 53 seconds of "um"s and "uh"s and "err"s, and then act shocked when someone mentions all the seconds Bush spent sitting in a classroom doing absolutely jack shit nothing during an attack is ridiculous. I mean, at least respond with "Yeah that didn't look so good, and the video I posted is just a joke, but it's a kind of funny joke if you're a republican so I posted it for a laugh." But no one is saying that. They're all seriously defending the doing nothing part, as though that was some sound solid military strategy.

Quoting imamomzilla:

 Let me guess....you're a Truther?

Quoting CDMelty:

Nothing is wrong with that. My issue isn't with him keeping his composure until he was out of their sight. My issue is with him waiting so long to get out of their sight. You can jump into action without literally jumping, and you can do it calmly. There's a big gray area between sitting htere listening to a children's story doing nothing, and running in circles panicking.

Quoting Lisha77:

That would have been the wrong reaction in a classroom full of children. Dubya kept his composure and waited until he was out of the sight of the little ones before handling business. What is wrong with that?

Quoting CDMelty:

And yet the republicans didn't feel Bush's presidency should end after he sat in that classroom listening to story time rather than jumping to action when we were attacked on 9/11.


 


 


LIMom1105
by on Sep. 14, 2012 at 1:50 PM
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Quoting Sisteract:

I have no problem with either President's (W or BO) response at the time of crisis. I do not want a reactive POTUS- I prefer cool response.

Now what about those latest swing state poll number released today? MR had better get on his horse (or Ann's) LOL-

Completely agree.  I was no fan of GWB, but I think sitting in the classroom was acceptable. It wasn't long, and honestly, I think the man was in shock.  Imagine, you are sitting in a classroom reading a book to kids, then you get this horrible news.  It's easy to sit at home and say what should have been done differently.

I don't want a reactive President either.

Lisha77
by Member on Sep. 14, 2012 at 3:06 PM
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He did spring to action. Once the story was completed, he handled business. His Secret Service had to make sure he, as the President, remained safe. If that means staying in a classroom of young children until all information could be received then so be it. There was nothing Bush could have done in Florida while everything was happening in NYC and Washington DC.

Quoting CDMelty:

Nothing is wrong with that. My issue isn't with him keeping his composure until he was out of their sight. My issue is with him waiting so long to get out of their sight. You can jump into action without literally jumping, and you can do it calmly. There's a big gray area between sitting htere listening to a children's story doing nothing, and running in circles panicking.


Quoting Lisha77:

That would have been the wrong reaction in a classroom full of children. Dubya kept his composure and waited until he was out of the sight of the little ones before handling business. What is wrong with that?



Quoting CDMelty:

And yet the republicans didn't feel Bush's presidency should end after he sat in that classroom listening to story time rather than jumping to action when we were attacked on 9/11.


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sillygirl83
by Member on Sep. 14, 2012 at 3:23 PM
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I'd love it, if it wasn't so sad.  Okay who am I kidding, I loved it.  I laughed so hard I cried.

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