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Romney: Uninsured Have Emergency Rooms...

Posted by on Sep. 24, 2012 at 10:21 PM
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Romney: Uninsured have emergency rooms

Posted by Rachel Weiner on September 24, 2012 at 9:03 am

 

In his interview with CBS News' "60 Minutes" that aired Sunday night, Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney pointed to emergency rooms as a form of health care for people without insurance.

"Well, we do provide care for people who don't have insurance," Romney told interviewer Scott Pelley. "If someone has a heart attack, they don't sit in their apartment and - and die. We pick them up in an ambulance, and take them to the hospital, and give them care. And different states have different ways of providing for that care." 

Video via the Huffington Post:

When Pelley pointed out that the ER is the most expensive form of health-care, Romney argued that he was talking about a variety of options that vary by state.

"Some provide that care through clinics, some provide that care through emergency rooms," he said. In Massachusetts, Romney said, they had come up with a different solution - but he wouldn't push universal care on other states.

Then-President George W. Bush made a similar comment in 2007, when threatening to veto an expansion of the federal Children's Health Insurance Program. "People have access to health care in America," Bush told a Cleveland audience. "After all, you just go to an emergency room."

But Romney's position is a shift from 2010, when he told MSNBC that part of the impetus for the Massachusetts health-care law was to keep people out of the ER.

"It doesn't make a lot of sense for us to have millions and millions of people who have no health insurance and yet who can go to the emergency room and get entirely free care for which they have no responsibility," he said.

 http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/wp/2012/09/24/romney-calls-emergency-room-a-health-care-option-for-uninsured/

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Pema_Jampa
by Celeste on Sep. 24, 2012 at 10:22 PM
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Wonder if that would have been fine for someone to tell his wife when she was so sick. SMH

Pema_Jampa
by Celeste on Sep. 24, 2012 at 10:26 PM
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The Emergency room is NOT free by any means. 

Earth to Romney...


trippyhippy
by on Sep. 24, 2012 at 10:34 PM

Just to verfy my miscarriage was close to $10,000.

Quoting Pema_Jampa:

The Emergency room is NOT free by any means. 

Earth to Romney...




Pema_Jampa
by Celeste on Sep. 24, 2012 at 10:36 PM

We had to go in for my son who had hit his head, was unconscious for a bit and then was vomiting a lot. We had for $5000 for a 20 min observation.

LIMom1105
by on Sep. 25, 2012 at 8:31 AM
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I was appalled that he said this.  It's a very expensive option, and the fact that a lot of people currently rely on emergency room visits for their healthcare then can't pay for it is a big part of what is driving up our healthcare costs today.

broncfan
by Silver Member on Sep. 25, 2012 at 8:40 AM
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Reading comprehension is a wonderful thing.

"Well, we do provide care for people who don't have insurance," Romney told interviewer Scott Pelley. "If someone has a heart attack, they don't sit in their apartment and - and die. We pick them up in an ambulance, and take them to the hospital, and give them care. And different states have different ways of providing for that care."

Video via the Huffington Post:

When Pelley pointed out that the ER is the most expensive form of health-care, Romney argued that he was talking about a variety of options that vary by state.

"Some provide that care through clinics, some provide that care through emergency rooms," he said. In Massachusetts, Romney said, they had come up with a different solution - but he wouldn't push universal care on other states.

He is saying in case of emergency people can go to a ER for care AND there is care provided in clinics.  If you are having a heart attack, you do not care how much the bill is going to be, you go and you are taken care of. 

He is also saying that he would not PUSH universal care on other states.  He wants each state to do what is best for them.  What is good for us here in GA is not what CA is going to need.  What CT can afford to do is not what MS can afford to do.  It is more about States Rights, which works for me, big time.

imamomzilla
by on Sep. 25, 2012 at 8:53 AM
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 That's silly. We all know the ER is only for illegals.

sarcasm

 

Xlandria
by Bronze Member on Sep. 25, 2012 at 11:16 AM
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Quoting broncfan:

Reading comprehension is a wonderful thing.

"Well, we do provide care for people who don't have insurance," Romney told interviewer Scott Pelley. "If someone has a heart attack, they don't sit in their apartment and - and die. We pick them up in an ambulance, and take them to the hospital, and give them care. And different states have different ways of providing for that care."

Video via the Huffington Post:

When Pelley pointed out that the ER is the most expensive form of health-care, Romney argued that he was talking about a variety of options that vary by state.

"Some provide that care through clinics, some provide that care through emergency rooms," he said. In Massachusetts, Romney said, they had come up with a different solution - but he wouldn't push universal care on other states.

He is saying in case of emergency people can go to a ER for care AND there is care provided in clinics.  If you are having a heart attack, you do not care how much the bill is going to be, you go and you are taken care of. 

He is also saying that he would not PUSH universal care on other states.  He wants each state to do what is best for them.  What is good for us here in GA is not what CA is going to need.  What CT can afford to do is not what MS can afford to do.  It is more about States Rights, which works for me, big time.

And why is this concept so hard to understand. He's not advocating using the ER in place of a Doctor, however, no one is left without somewhere to go for medical care or in

emergency's when it's impossible to be seen by your Dr immediately. And no it is not cheap, but then again, how much is your life or the life of a loved one worth? We have Tricare Prime with a Primary Care Dr. However, when it's after hours or weekends we have to go to the ER at the Military Base 40 minutes away because our local hospital no longer accepts Tricare. I also agree that each state should do what is best for their needs, it's not a one size fits all type of thing. I think that 24 hour urgent care for lesser emergencies will probably be in the future for many cities/states. In the meantime, just remember everyone, even during a Dr's normal business hours, if you have an emergency, you still have to go to the ER. This just occurred to me, does anyone know Obamacare's provisions for ER coverage? Limits on number of times you can use the service, will the 'panel' review your case to determine if it really was an emergency or not? If they say 'not' & you are on ACA are you stuck with the bill? What if you can't afford the insurance or the fine but you have an emergency, are you refused care? Remember, a doctors first pledge is "Do No Harm". We all had been start thinking of questions we have and try to get answers before it's too late. 

LIMom1105
by on Sep. 25, 2012 at 11:33 AM
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I think most would prefer to see a doctor than go to ER, and if you have health insurance, you are less likely to visit the ER.

Some hear what they want to hear. He did indeed say the ER us the option for those who don't have insurance.
Trueblu
by on Sep. 25, 2012 at 12:02 PM
There is no "panel" reviewing cases.

The use of the er by those who then can't pay is one of the reasons care is so expensive. Cheaper, preventive care is better for our health and wealth. Find a compromise, but don't use the er option as a justification for overturning the whole bill.


Quoting Xlandria:



Quoting broncfan:

Reading comprehension is a wonderful thing.



"Well, we do provide care for people who don't have insurance," Romney told interviewer Scott Pelley. "If someone has a heart attack, they don't sit in their apartment and - and die. We pick them up in an ambulance, and take them to the hospital, and give them care. And different states have different ways of providing for that care."


Video via the Huffington Post:


When Pelley pointed out that the ER is the most expensive form of health-care, Romney argued that he was talking about a variety of options that vary by state.


"Some provide that care through clinics, some provide that care through emergency rooms," he said. In Massachusetts, Romney said, they had come up with a different solution - but he wouldn't push universal care on other states.


He is saying in case of emergency people can go to a ER for care AND there is care provided in clinics.  If you are having a heart attack, you do not care how much the bill is going to be, you go and you are taken care of. 


He is also saying that he would not PUSH universal care on other states.  He wants each state to do what is best for them.  What is good for us here in GA is not what CA is going to need.  What CT can afford to do is not what MS can afford to do.  It is more about States Rights, which works for me, big time.

And why is this concept so hard to understand. He's not advocating using the ER in place of a Doctor, however, no one is left without somewhere to go for medical care or in

emergency's when it's impossible to be seen by your Dr immediately. And no it is not cheap, but then again, how much is your life or the life of a loved one worth? We have Tricare Prime with a Primary Care Dr. However, when it's after hours or weekends we have to go to the ER at the Military Base 40 minutes away because our local hospital no longer accepts Tricare. I also agree that each state should do what is best for their needs, it's not a one size fits all type of thing. I think that 24 hour urgent care for lesser emergencies will probably be in the future for many cities/states. In the meantime, just remember everyone, even during a Dr's normal business hours, if you have an emergency, you still have to go to the ER. This just occurred to me, does anyone know Obamacare's provisions for ER coverage? Limits on number of times you can use the service, will the 'panel' review your case to determine if it really was an emergency or not? If they say 'not' & you are on ACA are you stuck with the bill? What if you can't afford the insurance or the fine but you have an emergency, are you refused care? Remember, a doctors first pledge is "Do No Harm". We all had been start thinking of questions we have and try to get answers before it's too late. 


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