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 Should they expire?  Make your case here...

by on Oct. 1, 2012 at 12:15 PM
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mommom2000
by Bronze Member on Oct. 1, 2012 at 1:42 PM

LOL  How did they work? Bush wasn't known for his job creation. Spending and tax cuts created the deficit, you can't only blame one and not the other that's common sense.

Quoting Carpy:

The tax cuts worked. Overspending created the deficit

Quoting mommom2000:

Yes, like Obama wants to do it, for anyone making over 200,000.  This didn't create jobs, the only thing these tax cuts did were create a huge deficit.  If conservatives were really worried about the deficit they would also want to see these tax cuts expire.  they were only meant to be temporary.


maddyistheone
by Member on Oct. 1, 2012 at 2:36 PM
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Quoting mommom2000:

LOL  How did they work? Bush wasn't known for his job creation. Spending and tax cuts created the deficit, you can't only blame one and not the other that's common sense.

Quoting Carpy:

The tax cuts worked. Overspending created the deficit

Quoting mommom2000:

Yes, like Obama wants to do it, for anyone making over 200,000.  This didn't create jobs, the only thing these tax cuts did were create a huge deficit.  If conservatives were really worried about the deficit they would also want to see these tax cuts expire.  they were only meant to be temporary.

 

Why do so many not read and understand the English language?  The words above and the fact that Obama wants to let the tax cuts ONLY expire on those making over 200,000 and yet replies to these words continue to state that it would hurt the lower and middle income people who cannot afford to pay more taxes.  Why do you not understand that their taxes would not be going up? 

Also of equal consideration is that the notion that INCOME does not have an effect on the deficit and that only spending does.  Do you no understand arithmetic in that if income is greater then expenses you have a surplus and when less you have a deficit and that both sides of a the balance sheet have equal weight.  If you would remember when you when to grade school that you learned these simple fact and adding 1 + 1 = 2 and 2 - 1 = 1. 

If you are going to argue a point, they why are you changing the subject instead of just making a statement pointing out that what was said was incorrect and why?

Carpy
by Platinum Member on Oct. 1, 2012 at 2:38 PM
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We were prosperous under Clinton for a number of reasons. None if which include high taxes.

Quoting dilateyourmind:

I always laugh because the same people complaing about the deficit, don't want to pay  taxes in the first place. So which is it folks? Rolls eyes. I just LOVE those that speculate that Obama will  let them expire this time. Despite the fact that Romney himself said Obama HAS NOT RAISED TAXES.

   We were prosperous under Clinton, until Bush allowed tax cuts for the rich.  http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/tax-reform/news/2009/12/22/7092/let-the-bush-tax-cuts-on-the-wealthy-expire/

  BUT..I get why people in that tax bracket wouldn't want it. I call them the legit Republicans. Not the lower middle class, that vote repub for pro-life and other fantasy platforms. They do it cause they THINK it makes them a better person internally.

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Carpy
by Platinum Member on Oct. 1, 2012 at 3:38 PM
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I will get to that when I have time but it will go over the heads of our resident CM socialists

Quoting mommom2000:

LOL  How did they work? Bush wasn't known for his job creation. Spending and tax cuts created the deficit, you can't only blame one and not the other that's common sense.


Quoting Carpy:

The tax cuts worked. Overspending created the deficit


Quoting mommom2000:


Yes, like Obama wants to do it, for anyone making over 200,000.  This didn't create jobs, the only thing these tax cuts did were create a huge deficit.  If conservatives were really worried about the deficit they would also want to see these tax cuts expire.  they were only meant to be temporary.



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mommom2000
by Bronze Member on Oct. 1, 2012 at 3:41 PM
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That's typical, you make a comment withoutanything to back it up, while calling others stupid and socialists. This isn't how grown ups debate.

Quoting Carpy:

I will get to that when I have time but it will go over the heads of our resident CM socialists

Quoting mommom2000:

LOL  How did they work? Bush wasn't known for his job creation. Spending and tax cuts created the deficit, you can't only blame one and not the other that's common sense.


Quoting Carpy:

The tax cuts worked. Overspending created the deficit


Quoting mommom2000:


Yes, like Obama wants to do it, for anyone making over 200,000.  This didn't create jobs, the only thing these tax cuts did were create a huge deficit.  If conservatives were really worried about the deficit they would also want to see these tax cuts expire.  they were only meant to be temporary.


 


imamomzilla
by on Oct. 1, 2012 at 3:46 PM
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 NO. You don't raise taxes in a recession....even Obama agrees:

FLASHBACK>>

http://youtu.be/aufAtuTwKlE

Carpy
by Platinum Member on Oct. 2, 2012 at 7:42 AM
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Oh, I've backed it up many times.  Including back in answers when we used to try to explain to you that running that koolaid stand did not qualify you as a business owner.

Quoting mommom2000:

That's typical, you make a comment withoutanything to back it up, while calling others stupid and socialists. This isn't how grown ups debate.

Quoting Carpy:

I will get to that when I have time but it will go over the heads of our resident CM socialists

Quoting mommom2000:

LOL  How did they work? Bush wasn't known for his job creation. Spending and tax cuts created the deficit, you can't only blame one and not the other that's common sense.


Quoting Carpy:

The tax cuts worked. Overspending created the deficit


Quoting mommom2000:


Yes, like Obama wants to do it, for anyone making over 200,000.  This didn't create jobs, the only thing these tax cuts did were create a huge deficit.  If conservatives were really worried about the deficit they would also want to see these tax cuts expire.  they were only meant to be temporary.





blondekosmic15
by Blonde on Oct. 2, 2012 at 7:57 AM
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Quoting mommom2000:

Yes, like Obama wants to do it, for anyone making over 200,000.  This didn't create jobs, the only thing these tax cuts did were create a huge deficit.  If conservatives were really worried about the deficit they would also want to see these tax cuts expire.  they were only meant to be temporary.

You raise taxes on the rich { $200,000 or more } as Obama wants to do, this will effect many small businesses. No incentive to hire and expand. More layoffs etc. Small businesses are the financial back bone of America. A ripple effect on the middle class. As Carpy mentioned, the outrageous spending of this admin is the cause of the deficit. Obama has no clue how to restore the economy!

blondekosmic15
by Blonde on Oct. 2, 2012 at 8:02 AM

 

Quoting imamomzilla:

 NO. You don't raise taxes in a recession....even Obama agrees:

FLASHBACK>>

Common sense momzilla. Economy 101. They just don't get it :}

http://youtu.be/aufAtuTwKlE

 

imamomzilla
by on Oct. 2, 2012 at 8:03 AM
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 bow downWell said, blonde.

Quoting blondekosmic15:

 

Quoting mommom2000:

Yes, like Obama wants to do it, for anyone making over 200,000.  This didn't create jobs, the only thing these tax cuts did were create a huge deficit.  If conservatives were really worried about the deficit they would also want to see these tax cuts expire.  they were only meant to be temporary.

You raise taxes on the rich { $200,000 or more } as Obama wants to do, this will effect many small businesses. No incentive to hire and expand. More layoffs etc. Small businesses are the financial back bone of America. A ripple effect on the middle class. As Carpy mentioned, the outrageous spending of this admin is the cause of the deficit. Obama has no clue how to restore the economy!

 

 

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