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Pastor Offers Fiery Rebuke of Fellow Blacks: End Your ‘Slavish Devotion to the Democrat Party’

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Pastor Offers Fiery Rebuke of Fellow Blacks: End Your ‘Slavish Devotion to the Democrat Party’

Bishop E.W. Jackson Calls on Blacks to End Devotion to Democratic Party

Bishop E.W. Jackson (Photo Credit: YouTube)

The Bishop E.W. Jackson, founder of Chesapeake, Virginia-based Exodus Faith Ministries, recently released a controversial video calling for African Americans to make a mass exodus from the Democratic Party. Throughout the clip, Jackson delivers stinging blows to both liberals and the African Americans who continue to support them, while decrying what he sees as a “slavish devotion to the Democrat Party.”

“They have insulted us, used us, and manipulated us. They have saturated the black community with ridiculous lies,” he said, speaking directly to the black community. ”They think we are stupid and that these lies will hold us captive while they violate everything we believe as Christians.”

Jackson went into detail in the video, taking aim at the “unholy alliance” that he sees between Democrats, faux-civil rights leaders and Planned Parenthood.

“The Democratic Party has created an unholy alliance between certain so-called civil rights leaders and Planned Parenthood, which has killed unborn black babies by the tens of millions,” he proclaimed.

On the morality front, Jackson took issue with the party’s internal debate over “God” being dropped from its platform and derided the notion that homosexuality should be equated “with being black.“ He called the later tenet of the Democratic Party an ”outrageous lie.”

“We as Christians ought to know better. Shame on us for allowing ourselves to be sold to the highest bidder,” Jackson continued, telling his fellow black pastors that they, too, would need to make a decision between supporting Democrats and embracing Jesus.

by on Oct. 1, 2012 at 5:54 PM
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Ednarooni160
by Eds on Oct. 1, 2012 at 7:32 PM
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Quoting AdellesMom:


Quoting Ednarooni160:


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Quoting Ednarooni160:


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Quoting Ednarooni160:


Quoting AdellesMom:

There is something seriously wrong with that statement. Voting Republican doesn't make someone more of a Christian than someone that votes Democrat. If this man was truly reccomending that Christians vote strictly on Christian values, he'd recommend that people do not vote. Why? No one running for President exemplifies the chracteristics of a TRUE "saved" Christian. As my former Pastor would say: "It's hard to be 'saved' and be a politician." My former Pastor talked about this in his sermon yesterday.

Regardless of all of that, people should vote on good conscience. They should vote for the person that represents what they believe in the most, regardless of who it is. Telling congregants to become Republicans because he's a Republican is wrong, and quite possibly unethical. 

Saying that someone isn't a "true Christian" because they vote for Democrats or because they're a Democrat is a completely fallacious and just plain ignorant line of logic. According to the Bible, "Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." So, faith is determined by who you vote for. Salvation isn't determined by who you vote for either. 

You're a Christian, you should know that. 

**No, I'm not a Christian. I am a black woman and I was a Christian for many years.**

Quoting Ednarooni160:

“We as Christians ought to know better. Shame on us for allowing ourselves to be sold to the highest bidder,” Jackson continued, telling his fellow black pastors that they, too, would need to make a decision between supporting Democrats and embracing Jesus.


As my former Pastor would say: "It's hard to be 'saved' and be a politician."

You (general you) cannot serve two masters..no matter how you (general you) try to slice it.

Well, that was his point about politicians. 

Again, voing Republican doesn't make you more of a Christian than someone that votes Democratic. Closed minded views like that make me thankful that I'm no longer a Christian. Hell, it was people that had views like that that made me realize that Christianity wasn't my path. 

Christians need really need to watch the way they treat others. They're pushing many away from Christainity and many are losing their faith because of it.

I'm surprised you care..you aren't Christian anymore..right?  Besides....that's blaming your relationship or lack of it  with God on others..when it should be a one on one with God... What others do or don't do shouldn't affect your relationship with God..even in the bible itself tells that some who profess to be Christian will be "lacking"..at the end of days .. From my Christian perspective..you (who is running for any office)   "shouldn't" get votes based on telling the constituents that you ARE a Christian and then midstream in your platform.."change" your tune about things.. But..some should have known (at least I did) that when your supposedly Christian church honors a man like Farrakhan (sp) who professes to hate whites and jews..that in itself is a red flag..(imo)

So, you're surprised that I care about the way I was treated, and the way I was ridiculed, talked about, gossiped about, made fun of? You're surprised that I care that I lost my faith--something that I held close and dear to me for such a long time? You're surprised that I care about being bashed and lied on by people that called themselves Christians? 

Seriously? YOUR faith and walk with God has nothing to do with those HIPOCRITS.. You know that..or you should..


Let's take a moment and be realistic: of course I care about the way I was treated. Of course I care about losing my faith afgter trying my damndest not to lose my faith. Your saying that my relationship with God was "weak" tells me that you don't know what it feels like to go through something like that. I never said your walk with God was weak..you basically said others treated you in a certain way and so you aren't a  Christian anymore.  THOSE others shouldn't have anything to do with your walk with God..again..they are the hipocrits.. You can't blame them for leaving your Christian  faith..that was "your" decison..not theirs and certainly not God's..(imo)..  There's jack 'n' apple Christians..you know that..or you should. 

If someone says that they're a Christian, they're a Christian. It's not up to you, me, or anyone else to determine that that person isn't a Christian because they don't agree with a certain "brand" of Christianity.  Who are you talking about you or Obama?  I have had bad dealings with people of other Christian faiths and in church..should I abandon God because of "others" in this world.. In the end when we face God..HE knows what we said, did, acted..and what others did to us.. Christians aren't "exempt".. Obama will face God..just as I will...and we both will be ONE on ONE.. There will be no Michelle, not my husband, NO security detail, not my children...NOTHING..

I can tell you one thing.. Obama CAN be forgiven..but right now..the path he's leading..NO..I do not believe he's walking a Christian path..(imo)..  And if he thinks he can count on Christian votes..well...I doubt there are that many "offshoots" of his brand of Christianity out there..again (imo). 


Of course I care aboutn the way others are treated, and how others are percieved through the eyes of the extremely closed minded. I used to be extremely closed minded. Then, I woke up. So, I know what it's like to be on both sides of the fence.  Then you should know that God is "above" the fence.. He never left you..


That is untrue. At the point that my fellow Christians saw that my faith was weak, they should've reached out to me. They should've done or said something to encourage me instead of being rude and heartless. So, I do place some of the blame on them.

I'm talking about Obama. You brought up the fact that you think that he isn't a Christian. My point is that when someone professes faith, people should leave it at that even if they don't agree with the "brand" of Christianity that the professee agrees with. If you want to look at this objectively, neither Obama or Romney are walking down the "straight and narrow." Why? You can't serve two masters. 

I know that God (if he exists) didn't leave me. I'm still not a Christian though. 

Adelle..nothing and NO one should get between you and God..(imo).. Not hipocrits..not friends..not loved ones.. Your love for God and visa versa can overcome whatever those church people did or didn't do that you think they should have.. There are lots of hurts I remember..and some are very powerful..but we have to "overcome"..and we can do that with God.. We may be kicking and screaming some of  the way..but in the end..peace abounds.

AdellesMom
by on Oct. 1, 2012 at 7:37 PM


Quoting Ednarooni160:

*SNIP

That is untrue. At the point that my fellow Christians saw that my faith was weak, they should've reached out to me. They should've done or said something to encourage me instead of being rude and heartless. So, I do place some of the blame on them.

I'm talking about Obama. You brought up the fact that you think that he isn't a Christian. My point is that when someone professes faith, people should leave it at that even if they don't agree with the "brand" of Christianity that the professee agrees with. If you want to look at this objectively, neither Obama or Romney are walking down the "straight and narrow." Why? You can't serve two masters. 

I know that God (if he exists) didn't leave me. I'm still not a Christian though. 

(ADELLESMOM)

Adelle..nothing and NO one should get between you and God..(imo).. Not hipocrits..not friends..not loved ones.. Your love for God and visa versa can overcome whatever those church people did or didn't do that you think they should have.. There are lots of hurts I remember..and some are very powerful..but we have to "overcome"..and we can do that with God.. We may be kicking and screaming some of  the way..but in the end..peace abounds.

Thanks for being kind. :)

It's kind of hard to think like that when you're going through so much.

Sorry for unloading. I didn't mean to do that.

Off to finish dinner! We're having Chops & Taters!

Ednarooni160
by Eds on Oct. 1, 2012 at 7:39 PM
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Quoting AdellesMom:


Quoting Ednarooni160:

*SNIP

That is untrue. At the point that my fellow Christians saw that my faith was weak, they should've reached out to me. They should've done or said something to encourage me instead of being rude and heartless. So, I do place some of the blame on them.

I'm talking about Obama. You brought up the fact that you think that he isn't a Christian. My point is that when someone professes faith, people should leave it at that even if they don't agree with the "brand" of Christianity that the professee agrees with. If you want to look at this objectively, neither Obama or Romney are walking down the "straight and narrow." Why? You can't serve two masters. 

I know that God (if he exists) didn't leave me. I'm still not a Christian though. 

(ADELLESMOM)

Adelle..nothing and NO one should get between you and God..(imo).. Not hipocrits..not friends..not loved ones.. Your love for God and visa versa can overcome whatever those church people did or didn't do that you think they should have.. There are lots of hurts I remember..and some are very powerful..but we have to "overcome"..and we can do that with God.. We may be kicking and screaming some of  the way..but in the end..peace abounds.

Thanks for being kind. :)

It's kind of hard to think like that when you're going through so much.

Sorry for unloading. I didn't mean to do that.

Off to finish dinner! We're having Chops & Taters!

Have a nice dinner..!!

SallyMJ
by Ruby Member on Oct. 2, 2012 at 1:56 AM

Nope - he didn't say black Christians that vote for Democrats are not "true Christians" nor did he imply it . You're reading into what he said. This pastor is saying to black Christians, most of whom are Democrats, that he believes the Democrat Party beliefs are inconsistent with their faith and that they should  leave it. Not all pastors would say that -- mine would not --  but he certainly has the right to say it. You or I may not agree with what he's saying, or whether that's the best thing to say, but it is a valid point of view and he has the right of free speech.

You are right in that black Christians who decide to leave the Democrat Party may likely conclude the Republican Party is a better fit for them - since it's the other large party.  I've heard several black libertarians and conservatives say for years that although most blacks are Democrats, their values of faith and community are actually better represented in the  Republican Party.

Hey - I've heard exactly the opposite from some Christians who are Democrats - so, to each their own.

Quoting AdellesMom:

I know that he didn't say it. However, it was implied. He's a Republican that thinks that (black) Christians that vote for Democrats are not "true Christians." His assertions about the Democratic Party and blacks are according to his opinion--which is false and unsubstantiated.

Quoting SallyMJ:

The pastor never once said vote Republican - he only pointed out that the Democratic Party enslaves many blacks (!) to second-class lives against their faith and values.

Quoting AdellesMom:

There is something seriously wrong with that statement. Voting Republican doesn't make someone more of a Christian than someone that votes Democrat. If this man was truly reccomending that Christians vote strictly on Christian values, he'd recommend that people do not vote. Why? No one running for President exemplifies the chracteristics of a TRUE "saved" Christian. As my former Pastor would say: "It's hard to be 'saved' and be a politician." My former Pastor talked about this in his sermon yesterday.

Regardless of all of that, people should vote on good conscience. They should vote for the person that represents what they believe in the most, regardless of who it is. Telling congregants to become Republicans because he's a Republican is wrong, and quite possibly unethical. 

Saying that someone isn't a "true Christian" because they vote for Democrats or because they're a Democrat is a completely fallacious and just plain ignorant line of logic. According to the Bible, "Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." So, faith is determined by who you vote for. Salvation isn't determined by who you vote for either. 

You're a Christian, you should know that. 

**No, I'm not a Christian. I am a black woman and I was a Christian for many years.**

Quoting Ednarooni160:

“We as Christians ought to know better. Shame on us for allowing ourselves to be sold to the highest bidder,” Jackson continued, telling his fellow black pastors that they, too, would need to make a decision between supporting Democrats and embracing Jesus.





AdellesMom
by on Oct. 2, 2012 at 2:09 AM
You may want to take that up with him. “We as Christians ought to know better. Shame on us for allowing ourselves to be sold to the highest bidder,” Jackson continued, telling his fellow black pastors that they, too, would need to make a decision between supporting Democrats and embracing Jesus." Note his last line: "make a decision between supporting Democrats and embracing Jesus."

That's exactly what he said. It was implied. You can disagree and say that he meant something else. But, that's okay. That's my opinion on what he said.

Now, if he didn't mean that you couldn't be a democrat and a Christian, then why did he tell Black Pastors to choose between Jesus and the Democrats? To me, that's inferring that he doesn't believe that one can be a democrat and a Christian. Also, he believes that the Democratic part is full of immoral non believers. I have watched the entire video although I couldn't bear to take it, lol. Have you watched the video?

If you haven't watched the video, that may be where we're having some disconnect.

I'm a black woman, and a former Christian. The video is completely off base and just downright disturbing. He thinks that his way is the only way. That simply is not the case. I mean, my super religious and spiritual family has always primarily voted Democratic. They're definitely "saved" and what not. Their faith isn't based on who they vote for.

You're right, to each their own.


Quoting SallyMJ:

Nope - he didn't say black Christians that vote for Democrats are not "true Christians" nor did he imply it . You're reading into what he said. This pastor is saying to black Christians, most of whom are Democrats, that he believes the Democrat Party beliefs are inconsistent with their faith and that they should  leave it. Not all pastors would say that -- mine would not --  but he certainly has the right to say it. You or I may not agree with what he's saying, or whether that's the best thing to say, but it is a valid point of view and he has the right of free speech.

You are right in that black Christians who decide to leave the Democrat Party may likely conclude the Republican Party is a better fit for them - since it's the other large party.  I've heard several black libertarians and conservatives say for years that although most blacks are Democrats, their values of faith and community are actually better represented in the  Republican Party.

Hey - I've heard exactly the opposite from some Christians who are Democrats - so, to each their own.

Quoting AdellesMom:

I know that he didn't say it. However, it was implied. He's a Republican that thinks that (black) Christians that vote for Democrats are not "true Christians." His assertions about the Democratic Party and blacks are according to his opinion--which is false and unsubstantiated.

Quoting SallyMJ:

The pastor never once said vote Republican - he only pointed out that the Democratic Party enslaves many blacks (!) to second-class lives against their faith and values.


Quoting AdellesMom:

There is something seriously wrong with that statement. Voting Republican doesn't make someone more of a Christian than someone that votes Democrat. If this man was truly reccomending that Christians vote strictly on Christian values, he'd recommend that people do not vote. Why? No one running for President exemplifies the chracteristics of a TRUE "saved" Christian. As my former Pastor would say: "It's hard to be 'saved' and be a politician." My former Pastor talked about this in his sermon yesterday.

Regardless of all of that, people should vote on good conscience. They should vote for the person that represents what they believe in the most, regardless of who it is. Telling congregants to become Republicans because he's a Republican is wrong, and quite possibly unethical. 

Saying that someone isn't a "true Christian" because they vote for Democrats or because they're a Democrat is a completely fallacious and just plain ignorant line of logic. According to the Bible, "Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." So, faith is determined by who you vote for. Salvation isn't determined by who you vote for either. 

You're a Christian, you should know that. 

**No, I'm not a Christian. I am a black woman and I was a Christian for many years.**

Quoting Ednarooni160:

“We as Christians ought to know better. Shame on us for allowing
ourselves to be sold to the highest bidder,” Jackson continued, telling
his fellow black pastors that they, too, would need to make
a decision between supporting Democrats and embracing Jesus.





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SallyMJ
by Ruby Member on Oct. 2, 2012 at 7:08 AM

Of course I've seen the video - days ago!  Well before seeing this article. Why would anyone comment on something they've not seen?? So, no disconnect here.

You need to keep in mind: THAT'S HIS OPINION. He's talking with fellow Christians. Since you are a former Christian, why should that even bother you?  He's not even speaking to you- you in a sense, picked up someone else's mail or phone call by mistake. Quit getting bent out of shape by someone who isn't even a mentor to you. 

Again, it's his opinion. It doesn't have to be yours or your family's. Are you trying to censor him? Because it upsets you? Freedom of speech trumps upset feelings. Lord knows I've been upset by many things said by progressives&liberals. Does that mean I want to take away their right of free speech? Of course not. Why does it disturb you? Does it bother you because he's black, yet has a very different opinion and conclusions and Party than you, being a black woman, and many other blacks you know? Think of him as just a man, a person, with just as much right to an opinion as you. You need to get over this and let it go.

Quoting AdellesMom:

You may want to take that up with him. “We as Christians ought to know better. Shame on us for allowing ourselves to be sold to the highest bidder,” Jackson continued, telling his fellow black pastors that they, too, would need to make a decision between supporting Democrats and embracing Jesus." Note his last line: "make a decision between supporting Democrats and embracing Jesus."

That's exactly what he said. It was implied. You can disagree and say that he meant something else. But, that's okay. That's my opinion on what he said.

Now, if he didn't mean that you couldn't be a democrat and a Christian, then why did he tell Black Pastors to choose between Jesus and the Democrats? To me, that's inferring that he doesn't believe that one can be a democrat and a Christian. Also, he believes that the Democratic part is full of immoral non believers. I have watched the entire video although I couldn't bear to take it, lol. Have you watched the video?

If you haven't watched the video, that may be where we're having some disconnect.

I'm a black woman, and a former Christian. The video is completely off base and just downright disturbing. He thinks that his way is the only way. That simply is not the case. I mean, my super religious and spiritual family has always primarily voted Democratic. They're definitely "saved" and what not. Their faith isn't based on who they vote for.

You're right, to each their own.


Quoting SallyMJ:

Nope - he didn't say black Christians that vote for Democrats are not "true Christians" nor did he imply it . You're reading into what he said. This pastor is saying to black Christians, most of whom are Democrats, that he believes the Democrat Party beliefs are inconsistent with their faith and that they should  leave it. Not all pastors would say that -- mine would not --  but he certainly has the right to say it. You or I may not agree with what he's saying, or whether that's the best thing to say, but it is a valid point of view and he has the right of free speech.

You are right in that black Christians who decide to leave the Democrat Party may likely conclude the Republican Party is a better fit for them - since it's the other large party.  I've heard several black libertarians and conservatives say for years that although most blacks are Democrats, their values of faith and community are actually better represented in the  Republican Party.

Hey - I've heard exactly the opposite from some Christians who are Democrats - so, to each their own.

Quoting AdellesMom:

I know that he didn't say it. However, it was implied. He's a Republican that thinks that (black) Christians that vote for Democrats are not "true Christians." His assertions about the Democratic Party and blacks are according to his opinion--which is false and unsubstantiated.

Quoting SallyMJ:

The pastor never once said vote Republican - he only pointed out that the Democratic Party enslaves many blacks (!) to second-class lives against their faith and values.


Quoting AdellesMom:

There is something seriously wrong with that statement. Voting Republican doesn't make someone more of a Christian than someone that votes Democrat. If this man was truly reccomending that Christians vote strictly on Christian values, he'd recommend that people do not vote. Why? No one running for President exemplifies the chracteristics of a TRUE "saved" Christian. As my former Pastor would say: "It's hard to be 'saved' and be a politician." My former Pastor talked about this in his sermon yesterday.

Regardless of all of that, people should vote on good conscience. They should vote for the person that represents what they believe in the most, regardless of who it is. Telling congregants to become Republicans because he's a Republican is wrong, and quite possibly unethical. 

Saying that someone isn't a "true Christian" because they vote for Democrats or because they're a Democrat is a completely fallacious and just plain ignorant line of logic. According to the Bible, "Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." So, faith is determined by who you vote for. Salvation isn't determined by who you vote for either. 

You're a Christian, you should know that. 

**No, I'm not a Christian. I am a black woman and I was a Christian for many years.**

Quoting Ednarooni160:

“We as Christians ought to know better. Shame on us for allowing
ourselves to be sold to the highest bidder,” Jackson continued, telling
his fellow black pastors that they, too, would need to make
a decision between supporting Democrats and embracing Jesus.






denise3680
by Gold Member on Oct. 2, 2012 at 8:14 AM
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Quoting AdellesMom:

There is something seriously wrong with that statement. Voting Republican doesn't make someone more of a Christian than someone that votes Democrat. If this man was truly reccomending that Christians vote strictly on Christian values, he'd recommend that people do not vote. Why? No one running for President exemplifies the chracteristics of a TRUE "saved" Christian. As my former Pastor would say: "It's hard to be 'saved' and be a politician." My former Pastor talked about this in his sermon yesterday.

Regardless of all of that, people should vote on good conscience. They should vote for the person that represents what they believe in the most, regardless of who it is. Telling congregants to become Republicans because he's a Republican is wrong, and quite possibly unethical. 

Saying that someone isn't a "true Christian" because they vote for Democrats or because they're a Democrat is a completely fallacious and just plain ignorant line of logic. According to the Bible, "Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." So, faith isn't determined by who you vote for. Salvation isn't determined by who you vote for either. 

You're a Christian, you should know that. 

**No, I'm not a Christian. I am a black woman and I was a Christian for many years.**

Quoting Ednarooni160:

“We as Christians ought to know better. Shame on us for allowing ourselves to be sold to the highest bidder,” Jackson continued, telling his fellow black pastors that they, too, would need to make a decision between supporting Democrats and embracing Jesus.


Come on girl, as a black woman you have to know that you do not know anything about being black or what blacks feel or think or react.  We all know that only white conservatives really know what its like to be black.  I thought you would know that by now, I mean look at all the experts on this board alone:/

kiriis
by Member on Oct. 2, 2012 at 9:50 AM
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This is the most intelligent answer I've seen in here all day.


Quoting AdellesMom:

There is something seriously wrong with that statement. Voting Republican doesn't make someone more of a Christian than someone that votes Democrat. If this man was truly reccomending that Christians vote strictly on Christian values, he'd recommend that people do not vote. Why? No one running for President exemplifies the chracteristics of a TRUE "saved" Christian. As my former Pastor would say: "It's hard to be 'saved' and be a politician." My former Pastor talked about this in his sermon yesterday.

Regardless of all of that, people should vote on good conscience. They should vote for the person that represents what they believe in the most, regardless of who it is. Telling congregants to become Republicans because he's a Republican is wrong, and quite possibly unethical. 

Saying that someone isn't a "true Christian" because they vote for Democrats or because they're a Democrat is a completely fallacious and just plain ignorant line of logic. According to the Bible, "Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." So, faith isn't determined by who you vote for. Salvation isn't determined by who you vote for either. 

You're a Christian, you should know that. 

**No, I'm not a Christian. I am a black woman and I was a Christian for many years.**

Quoting Ednarooni160:

“We as Christians ought to know better. Shame on us for allowing
ourselves to be sold to the highest bidder,” Jackson continued, telling
his fellow black pastors that they, too, would need to make
a decision between supporting Democrats and embracing Jesus.



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AdellesMom
by on Oct. 2, 2012 at 10:48 AM
But, but, I've been black all my life!!! LOL

You're so right though.


Quoting denise3680:



Quoting AdellesMom:


There is something seriously wrong with that statement. Voting Republican doesn't make someone more of a Christian than someone that votes Democrat. If this man was truly reccomending that Christians vote strictly on Christian values, he'd recommend that people do not vote. Why? No one running for President exemplifies the chracteristics of a TRUE "saved" Christian. As my former Pastor would say: "It's hard to be 'saved' and be a politician." My former Pastor talked about this in his sermon yesterday.


Regardless of all of that, people should vote on good conscience. They should vote for the person that represents what they believe in the most, regardless of who it is. Telling congregants to become Republicans because he's a Republican is wrong, and quite possibly unethical. 


Saying that someone isn't a "true Christian" because they vote for Democrats or because they're a Democrat is a completely fallacious and just plain ignorant line of logic. According to the Bible, "Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." So, faith isn't determined by who you vote for. Salvation isn't determined by who you vote for either. 


You're a Christian, you should know that. 


**No, I'm not a Christian. I am a black woman and I was a Christian for many years.**


Quoting Ednarooni160:


“We as Christians ought to know better. Shame on us for allowing ourselves to be sold to the highest bidder,” Jackson continued, telling his fellow black pastors that they, too, would need to make a decision between supporting Democrats and embracing Jesus.




Come on girl, as a black woman you have to know that you do not know anything about being black or what blacks feel or think or react.  We all know that only white conservatives really know what its like to be black.  I thought you would know that by now, I mean look at all the experts on this board alone:/

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AdellesMom
by on Oct. 2, 2012 at 10:48 AM
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Thank you. :)

Quoting kiriis:

This is the most intelligent answer I've seen in here all day.




Quoting AdellesMom:

There is something seriously wrong with that statement. Voting Republican doesn't make someone more of a Christian than someone that votes Democrat. If this man was truly reccomending that Christians vote strictly on Christian values, he'd recommend that people do not vote. Why? No one running for President exemplifies the chracteristics of a TRUE "saved" Christian. As my former Pastor would say: "It's hard to be 'saved' and be a politician." My former Pastor talked about this in his sermon yesterday.

Regardless of all of that, people should vote on good conscience. They should vote for the person that represents what they believe in the most, regardless of who it is. Telling congregants to become Republicans because he's a Republican is wrong, and quite possibly unethical. 

Saying that someone isn't a "true Christian" because they vote for Democrats or because they're a Democrat is a completely fallacious and just plain ignorant line of logic. According to the Bible, "Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." So, faith isn't determined by who you vote for. Salvation isn't determined by who you vote for either. 

You're a Christian, you should know that. 

**No, I'm not a Christian. I am a black woman and I was a Christian for many years.**

Quoting Ednarooni160:

“We as Christians ought to know better. Shame on us for allowing

ourselves to be sold to the highest bidder,” Jackson continued, telling

his fellow black pastors that they, too, would need to make

a decision between supporting Democrats and embracing Jesus.



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