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So if you live in cali and you got gas, listen to the news, or watch it today; gas prices have gone up $.50 Since yestarday...... yestarday i drove by the gas station it was &3.99 and to day when i got gas at the same station  it was $4.49 ...... wtf!!!!!!! I put $20 in my tank ( i only had $30 in the bank and $8 for a monthly fee) and i Only got 3.45 gallons!!!!

well here is the reason why 

(Updates California spot prices in fourth paragraph, Nymex futures in fifth paragraph.)


Oct. 4 (Bloomberg) -- Gasoline station owners in the Los Angeles area including Costco Wholesale Corp. are beginning to shut pumps because of supply shortages that have driven wholesale fuel prices to record highs.

Costco’s outlet in Simi Valley, 40 miles (64 kilometers) northwest of Los Angeles, ran out of regular gasoline yesterday and was selling premium fuel at the price of regular, Jeff Cole, Costco’s vice president of gasoline, said by telephone. The company hasn’t been able to find enough unbranded summer-grade gasoline to keep its stations supplied, he said.

The gasoline shortage “feels like a hurricane to me, but it’s the West Coast,” Cole said yesterday. “We’re obviously extremely disheartened that we are unable to do this, and we’re pulling fuel from all corners of California to fix this.”

Spot, or wholesale, gasoline in Los Angeles climbed 30 cents to $1.45 a gallon over gasoline futures traded on the New York Mercantile Exchange, data compiled by Bloomberg show. That’s the highest level for the fuel since at least November 2007, when Bloomberg began publishing prices there. The premium has surged $1 this week. On an outright basis, the fuel jumped to $4.3396 a gallon.


Prices Jump


Gasoline at the pump gained 8.3 cents to $4.315 a gallon in California yesterday, according to AAA.com, 53.1 cents more than the national average of $3.784. In Los Angeles the price was $4.347. Gasoline futures for November delivery on the Nymex rose 11.15 cents to $2.911 a gallon at 1:35 p.m. today, after falling yesterday to a 10-week low. Retail price movements tend to lag behind those of futures.

Low-P, a gasoline station in Calabasas, California, 30 miles west of Los Angeles, stopped selling unleaded gasoline Oct. 2 and ran out of high-octane and medium-octane fuel yesterday, John Ravi, the station’s owner, said by phone yesterday. Ravi said he posted an “Out of Gasoline” sign on each pump and took down the prices outside his shop.

“I can get gas, but it’s going to cost me $4.90 a gallon, and I can’t sell it here for $5,” Ravi said. “If you come here right now, I’ve got some diesel left. That’s all. My market is open, but no gas.”

A Chevron Corp. oil pipeline shut down last month, an Oct. 1 power failure at Exxon Mobil Corp.’s Torrance refinery and units down at other plants have cut supplies in the market.

Spot California-blend gasoline, or Carbob, in San Francisco surged 30 cents to $1.40 a gallon over futures, also the highest level since at least 2007, at 1:12 p.m. New York time.


‘Not Worth It’


“We’re going to start shutting pumps Friday,” Sam Krikorian, owner of Quality Auto Repair in North Hollywood, said by phone yesterday. “Gas is costing me almost $4.75 a gallon with taxes. There’s no sense in staying open. The profit margins are so low it’s not worth it.”

Exxon’s 150,000-barrel-a-day Torrance refinery may flare gases for a week as it restores production after a power failure that shut some units and slowed output from others, Gesuina Paras, an Exxon spokeswoman in Torrance, said by e-mail Oct. 2.

Chevron’s Kettleman-Los Medanos pipeline, which carries crude from Kern County to Northern California refineries operated by Royal Dutch Shell PlcTesoro Corp. and Valero Energy Corp., remained shut after elevated levels of organic chloride were detected in the oil.

Phillips 66 is also scheduled to perform maintenance on process units at its Rodeo and Los Angeles refineries this month, people familiar with the schedules said.

Chevron’s 240,000-barrel-a-day Richmond plant, the largest refinery in Northern California, has been running at reduced capacity since a fire Aug. 6.


’Squeeze is On’



Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/business/bloomberg/article/California-Gas-Stations-Begin-to-Shut-on-3919421.php#ixzz28NFKjQYJ



by on Oct. 4, 2012 at 7:00 PM
Replies (41-50):
sammygrl77
by on Oct. 5, 2012 at 10:05 AM
This has nothing to do with Obama.

This happened a few months back in Chicago because of a shortage. Pipeline issues or something.
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Sisteract
by Socialist Hippie on Oct. 5, 2012 at 11:40 AM

Do you shop at the Food 4 Less in the Lemon Grove area? Are you using your fuel reward points?

Prices jumped in the last 24 hours in SoCal because there are 2  active refinery issues- one refinery near San Pedro had a long power outage (yesterday?) and another in MX also had huge problems. Refineries in SoCal sold a large quantity of few to MX.

In short, there is a fuel shortage problem in  SoCal- supply and demand-

Quoting pj2becca21:

San Deigo, Ca. I shop at food 4 less, Vons, Albertsons, Sprouts, target, Walmart, and Henerys. Were every has a better deals. 

Quoting Sisteract:

Where do you live and where do you grocery shop?


Quoting pj2becca21:

Move to the midwest.... with what money!!! I just in my gas tank. plus I can't! I have this thing call joint custody and in my agreement I'm not allow to move out of state till she is 18. 

Quoting Sisteract:

Obama does not control gas prices.

If you want to breathe clear air amongst all those cars, you get the regs that assist with that, hence higher prices.

You want everything on the cheap, you have to move to the outlying areas [think the middle of the country]- be prepared for a lower salary too.





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jean_marie1987
by Member on Oct. 5, 2012 at 5:41 PM
Lol. And it's down 5 cents today in Fredericksburg. :-D


Quoting PeeperSqueak:

Up 5 cents this morning.....you gotta love it !

Quoting jean_marie1987:

Love the fluctuation in VA. It was up last week and started going down this week.





Quoting PeeperSqueak:

What a deal !    LOL

I'm in VA also and it's been going down a couple cents, then another few days it's up about 10 cents. 


Quoting jean_marie1987:

Gas has been going down here. I just got it today for $3.53/gal.








Quoting pj2becca21:

And that 2 days ago would have gotten me almost 6 gallons!!!!!!! 

Quoting imamomzilla:

 OUCH! It's $3.99 /gal here. Grr










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pj2becca21
by Bronze Member on Oct. 5, 2012 at 7:04 PM

no the one in El cajon Every time i try to use my fuel point they won't take it..... :( i think they hate me. 

No I didn't know that, but I though we had a embrogo with MX right now?

You live near lemon grove. It's kinda far but the Arco on chase and Avocodo is 4.39 for unleaded, 4.49 for mid, 4.59 for the super 

Quoting Sisteract:

Do you shop at the Food 4 Less in the Lemon Grove area? Are you using your fuel reward points?

Prices jumped in the last 24 hours in SoCal because there are 2  active refinery issues- one refinery near San Pedro had a long power outage (yesterday?) and another in MX also had huge problems. Refineries in SoCal sold a large quantity of few to MX.

In short, there is a fuel shortage problem in  SoCal- supply and demand-

Quoting pj2becca21:

San Deigo, Ca. I shop at food 4 less, Vons, Albertsons, Sprouts, target, Walmart, and Henerys. Were every has a better deals. 

Quoting Sisteract:

Where do you live and where do you grocery shop?


Quoting pj2becca21:

Move to the midwest.... with what money!!! I just in my gas tank. plus I can't! I have this thing call joint custody and in my agreement I'm not allow to move out of state till she is 18. 

Quoting Sisteract:

Obama does not control gas prices.

If you want to breathe clear air amongst all those cars, you get the regs that assist with that, hence higher prices.

You want everything on the cheap, you have to move to the outlying areas [think the middle of the country]- be prepared for a lower salary too.






Kathy489
by Bronze Member on Oct. 5, 2012 at 7:35 PM

   It's all Bush's fault!

pj2becca21
by Bronze Member on Oct. 5, 2012 at 9:18 PM

wrong oil is a renewable resource....( i found this and just talk to my land lord who works for a oil company in Wisconicn ) 

http://thesolidsurfer.typepad.com/the_solid_surfer/2005/11/oil_a_renewable.html

Oil A Renewable Resource?

We have always believed oil to be a finite resource. According to standard geological theory, oil was created millions of years ago by decaying fossils, accumulated in underground pools, and has largely been used up over the last 150 years. Humanity must soon develop alternate energy sources, because when oil runs out, we could be in for a bumpy ride.

But what if all this is wrong, and oil is actually a renewable resource? That's the theory expounded by Dr. Jerome Corsi in his book Black Gold Stranglehold (co-writtten with Craig Smith) and in a series of articles for WorldNetDaily.com.

Corsi believes instead in abiotic oil theory, the hypothesis that oil is continually created in the ground. This, he explains, is why despite so much consumption during the past century, the world's proven oil reserves have risen today to record levels.

Could Corsi really be onto something? His evidence is quite convincing, based both on observed and mathematical data. (See his articles for some explanations.) At the same time, however, his theory does contradict a century of geological thought, and the rising oil reserve levels could just be a result of better discovery methods.

Nevertheless, Corsi does bring up many valid supporting points, and any scientific theory (even a century-old geologic one) always risks being supplanted by something newer and better.

Persuasive evidence exists both for and against his position, so perhaps the best we can say is that the jury's still out. But this theory should certainly be investigated quickly, as its confirmation would quickly change the balance of power among the world's energy players.

Imagine if the U.S. had abundant, renewable oil right inside its borders. That'd mean an end to energy policies based on oil scarcity, permanently low prices at the pump, no more oil renvenues heading to terrorist-sponsoring nations, and no need to continually appease corrupt and unelected Middle Eastern dictators. If Corsi's theory is correct, all of the above could quickly come to pass.


Quoting ReadWriteLuv:

Green energy isn't bullshit. Oil is a non-renewable resource, gotta come up with something for our grandchildren.

The pipeline could open and oil could flow like black, sticky wine. Doesn't matter, the gas prices would still remain the same because of the cost to refine it and ship it. I have a refinery 10 miles from my house. We pay $4.05 a gallon because the gas that is refined there doesn't go to any of our stations, it's shipped to California by tankers.

There is a fabulous documentary made about a decade ago titled "Who Killed the Electric Car?". I suggest everyone see it.


Quoting pj2becca21:

He stopped the keystone pipe line which would be helpful right know. he wont let San Onfra open back up, Continusely close refiners. And has his head ing the clouds about his damn "green energy" bullshit. and that damn Volt car that cost $35,000 and if the battery dies in it is $5000. so yes it his fault and plus it's 33 days till election!!! It's not looking good for him 

Quoting trippyhippy:

WTF does Obama have to do with gas prices in Cali?  Did he start the refinery fire?



ReadWriteLuv
by on Oct. 5, 2012 at 9:50 PM

Those are two theories from non-credible sources. Not proven fact. Nice try though. And where exactly is Wisconicn?

Quoting pj2becca21:


jaxTheMomm
by Gold Member on Oct. 5, 2012 at 10:01 PM

No gas shortages on the EC, sorry SOCALs are having such problems right now.

Sisteract
by Socialist Hippie on Oct. 5, 2012 at 10:13 PM

# to call for problems getting your fuel rewards:

800 472-5747 for customer service problems related to your fuel reward points-

No I live in LA county

Quoting pj2becca21:

no the one in El cajon Every time i try to use my fuel point they won't take it..... :( i think they hate me. 

No I didn't know that, but I though we had a embrogo with MX right now?

You live near lemon grove. It's kinda far but the Arco on chase and Avocodo is 4.39 for unleaded, 4.49 for mid, 4.59 for the super 

Quoting Sisteract:

Do you shop at the Food 4 Less in the Lemon Grove area? Are you using your fuel reward points?

Prices jumped in the last 24 hours in SoCal because there are 2  active refinery issues- one refinery near San Pedro had a long power outage (yesterday?) and another in MX also had huge problems. Refineries in SoCal sold a large quantity of few to MX.

In short, there is a fuel shortage problem in  SoCal- supply and demand-

Quoting pj2becca21:

San Deigo, Ca. I shop at food 4 less, Vons, Albertsons, Sprouts, target, Walmart, and Henerys. Were every has a better deals. 

Quoting Sisteract:

Where do you live and where do you grocery shop?


Quoting pj2becca21:

Move to the midwest.... with what money!!! I just in my gas tank. plus I can't! I have this thing call joint custody and in my agreement I'm not allow to move out of state till she is 18. 

Quoting Sisteract:

Obama does not control gas prices.

If you want to breathe clear air amongst all those cars, you get the regs that assist with that, hence higher prices.

You want everything on the cheap, you have to move to the outlying areas [think the middle of the country]- be prepared for a lower salary too.







Separation of church and state is for the protection of BOTH church and state.
Leading with hate and intolerance only leads to MORE hate and intolerance.
paknari
by Silver Member on Oct. 5, 2012 at 10:21 PM
So basically you are blaming the President because these billion dollar companies are having technical difficulties? No president republican or democrat has the power to change the gas prices. Everywhere in the west half of the us we are going to see increases until they fix the closed pipeline. I work for Chevron. They can't buy gas so they raise the price in hopes that people will conserve as much as they can until we can get more. We jumped 10 cents today in AZ and my alarms are going of because w are low on fuel. Blame the oil companies for the shortage because that is where I is coming from.
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