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 "I just don't know how the president could have come into office, facing 23 million people out of work, rising unemployment, an economic crisis at the -- at the kitchen table, and spend his energy and passion for two years fighting for Obamacare instead of fighting for jobs for the American people. It has killed jobs."

 --Mitt Romney, Oct 3 Presidential Debate

This statement resonates.

 

 

by on Oct. 6, 2012 at 8:42 AM
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JakeandEmmasMom
by Gold Member on Oct. 6, 2012 at 2:40 PM
The jobs situation is going to be an issue for probably the next two years at least, regardless of who wins in November. We are in the midst of a global crisis, and is not totally within our control. If the President hadn't made healthcare a priority, it likely would never have gotten done.

Quoting Meadowchik:

 


Quoting JakeandEmmasMom:


 It is a great soundbite.  It isn't exactly true.  It indicates that he did that at the exclusion of jobs.  He did try to create jobs.  It's just that the "shovel ready" jobs are only now coming to fruition.  All of us that have a lot of road construction going on in our states right now?  That's where those jobs came from.  They took a lot longer to go through the local and state bureaucracies than we were led to believe.  This is going to be a long slog.  Anyone who thinks that Romney has some secret magic wand that he is going to wave and *poof* there will suddenly be all of these jobs is fooling herself.


Romney gave concrete reasons for why the ACA ran counter to jobs: it hindered job growth, he discussed business uncertain about their abilities to pay under the new law, for instance. 

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AdellesMom
by on Oct. 6, 2012 at 2:57 PM
They're going on in my state too. There's one right in front of my house. I live off of a highway. lol

Quoting JakeandEmmasMom:

 They exist in my state.  I can think of four major highway projects that are going on right now that are a result of that bill.


Construction jobs are always temporary.  I wouldn't say that they are very short.  One that started last year is still going on.


Quoting gsprofval:


The "shovel ready jobs" basically don't exist; at the most those are very short temporary jobs.


Fours years is quite long enough to make a difference; now the liberals say he is just now getting to it sometime in the quite distant future maybe.


Giving billions to bankrupt companies is not a smart move at all and created absolutely NO JOB at all.


Now companies are laying off in great numbers. The only jobs to be found right now are part time Christmas help; those will be very temporary too since predictions  are that Christmas gift sales will be low this year because of the fiscal cliff we are facing.


Quoting JakeandEmmasMom:


 It is a great soundbite.  It isn't exactly true.  It indicates that he did that at the exclusion of jobs.  He did try to create jobs.  It's just that the "shovel ready" jobs are only now coming to fruition.  All of us that have a lot of road construction going on in our states right now?  That's where those jobs came from.  They took a lot longer to go through the local and state bureaucracies than we were led to believe.  This is going to be a long slog.  Anyone who thinks that Romney has some secret magic wand that he is going to wave and *poof* there will suddenly be all of these jobs is fooling herself.


 


 

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Meadowchik
by Gold Member on Oct. 6, 2012 at 3:09 PM
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 Baseless and meaningless assumption.

Quoting Sisteract:

And he will do nothing about it if elected.  It will not be a priority-

Quoting Meadowchik:

 

Quoting JakeandEmmasMom:

 It is a great soundbite.  It isn't exactly true.  It indicates that he did that at the exclusion of jobs.  He did try to create jobs.  It's just that the "shovel ready" jobs are only now coming to fruition.  All of us that have a lot of road construction going on in our states right now?  That's where those jobs came from.  They took a lot longer to go through the local and state bureaucracies than we were led to believe.  This is going to be a long slog.  Anyone who thinks that Romney has some secret magic wand that he is going to wave and *poof* there will suddenly be all of these jobs is fooling herself.

Romney gave concrete reasons for why the ACA ran counter to jobs: it hindered job growth, he discussed business uncertain about their abilities to pay under the new law, for instance. 


 

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Meadowchik
by Gold Member on Oct. 6, 2012 at 3:25 PM
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In Massachusetts, Romney balanced the budget first, then pursued Romneycare, without raising taxes.  Obama sought the completion of healthcare law first, before Simpson Bowles fiscal reforms which have still not been passed. 

We could say the same about fiscal reform as you said about the ACA. Since Obama didn't "grab" fiscal reform when he could have, it might never happen.  Which should come first?  One thing is sure, the current fiscal situation threatens the future of funding for programs including Obamacare. 

It likes leaving on the vacation road trip with bald tires.  Short-sighted priorities.

Quoting JakeandEmmasMom:

The jobs situation is going to be an issue for probably the next two years at least, regardless of who wins in November. We are in the midst of a global crisis, and is not totally within our control. If the President hadn't made healthcare a priority, it likely would never have gotten done.

Quoting Meadowchik:

 


Quoting JakeandEmmasMom:


 It is a great soundbite.  It isn't exactly true.  It indicates that he did that at the exclusion of jobs.  He did try to create jobs.  It's just that the "shovel ready" jobs are only now coming to fruition.  All of us that have a lot of road construction going on in our states right now?  That's where those jobs came from.  They took a lot longer to go through the local and state bureaucracies than we were led to believe.  This is going to be a long slog.  Anyone who thinks that Romney has some secret magic wand that he is going to wave and *poof* there will suddenly be all of these jobs is fooling herself.


Romney gave concrete reasons for why the ACA ran counter to jobs: it hindered job growth, he discussed business uncertain about their abilities to pay under the new law, for instance. 

 

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Meadowchik
by Gold Member on Oct. 7, 2012 at 1:10 PM
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Romney pointed out that there should have been efforts to fast-track the projects.  I bet that the a fraction of the energy put into campaigning for Obamacare (which was relatively inneffectual) could have made more headway in fast-tracking shovel-ready projects.

Quoting AdellesMom:

They're going on in my state too. There's one right in front of my house. I live off of a highway. lol
7SportsMom7
by Bronze Member on Oct. 7, 2012 at 1:26 PM
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It is interesting how you comment so admantly against Romney on a regular basis.  How do you you know such?  And why only against Romney?  You have presented yourself on CM as a third party voter, which I respect.  Do you disrespect Romney and his policies so much because he comes from the party that failed you?   Why not, in your effort to educate us on a third party vote, is it only Romney you always disagree with and not Obama as well?  Your motivation behind your comments is just very interesting to me.

Quoting Sisteract:

And he will do nothing about it if elected.  It will not be a priority-

Quoting Meadowchik:

 

Quoting JakeandEmmasMom:

 It is a great soundbite.  It isn't exactly true.  It indicates that he did that at the exclusion of jobs.  He did try to create jobs.  It's just that the "shovel ready" jobs are only now coming to fruition.  All of us that have a lot of road construction going on in our states right now?  That's where those jobs came from.  They took a lot longer to go through the local and state bureaucracies than we were led to believe.  This is going to be a long slog.  Anyone who thinks that Romney has some secret magic wand that he is going to wave and *poof* there will suddenly be all of these jobs is fooling herself.

Romney gave concrete reasons for why the ACA ran counter to jobs: it hindered job growth, he discussed business uncertain about their abilities to pay under the new law, for instance. 



Sisteract
by Socialist Hippie on Oct. 7, 2012 at 1:39 PM
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Earlier in this thread I clearly disagreed with BO's 2010 priorities in terms of the ACA- wrong plan, wrong time.

We all know BOs failings- being too Bush like- continuing down that same path.

The GOP participants on this forum have been complaining ad nauseum for 3 years- and then they nominate a chameleon retread. WHY?

How come the GOP can not hone a decent candidate? Yes, it does anger me- then we end up with the same BS.

BO is a puppet and he is a corporatist, but down deep, IMO, he presents as more middle of the road. They are the same in terms of how they would be manipulated by their fancy donors...and the rest be darned.

One is bad, the other is worse.

I do understand that some are party only or single issue voters. I do not get that approach- and I doubt those folks understand those of us who are bold enough to say NO to both.

BO is old news- MR was suppose to be better- the onus is on MR to prove that he is better, so far that is a fail, IMO-


Quoting 7SportsMom7:

It is interesting how you comment so admantly against Romney on a regular basis.  How do you you know such?  And why only against Romney?  You have presented yourself on CM as a third party voter, which I respect.  Do you disrespect Romney and his policies so much because he comes from the party that failed you?   Why not, in your effort to educate us on a third party vote, is it only Romney you always disagree with and not Obama as well?  Your motivation behind your comments is just very interesting to me.

Quoting Sisteract:

And he will do nothing about it if elected.  It will not be a priority-

Quoting Meadowchik:

 

Quoting JakeandEmmasMom:

 It is a great soundbite.  It isn't exactly true.  It indicates that he did that at the exclusion of jobs.  He did try to create jobs.  It's just that the "shovel ready" jobs are only now coming to fruition.  All of us that have a lot of road construction going on in our states right now?  That's where those jobs came from.  They took a lot longer to go through the local and state bureaucracies than we were led to believe.  This is going to be a long slog.  Anyone who thinks that Romney has some secret magic wand that he is going to wave and *poof* there will suddenly be all of these jobs is fooling herself.

Romney gave concrete reasons for why the ACA ran counter to jobs: it hindered job growth, he discussed business uncertain about their abilities to pay under the new law, for instance. 




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Leading with hate and intolerance only leads to MORE hate and intolerance.
Sisteract
by Socialist Hippie on Oct. 7, 2012 at 1:43 PM
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And to sports- How can you support a man who changes{or tailors} his stance, opinion, plan, wording, beliefs depending on the audience being addressed?

Does that convey honesty?

Does that inspire confidence?

How would that work on a foreign stage?

How do you integrate his latest revelation, that he was wrong about the 47%?

shimamab
by on Oct. 7, 2012 at 1:54 PM
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Agree. This fallacious argument, used by both parties against each other, that only one thing can be accomplished at a time, drives me nuts. Bills of all sorts are worked on by many diff committees and introduced/voted on regarding all aspects of our society in each session. If the pres is taking heat for only doing one thing at a time, what does that say about all of congress' ability to multitask?

Quoting JakeandEmmasMom:

 It is a great soundbite.  It isn't exactly true.  It indicates that he did that at the exclusion of jobs.  He did try to create jobs.  It's just that the "shovel ready" jobs are only now coming to fruition.  All of us that have a lot of road construction going on in our states right now?  That's where those jobs came from.  They took a lot longer to go through the local and state bureaucracies than we were led to believe.  This is going to be a long slog.  Anyone who thinks that Romney has some secret magic wand that he is going to wave and *poof* there will suddenly be all of these jobs is fooling herself.

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blondekosmic15
by Blonde on Oct. 7, 2012 at 1:55 PM

 

Quoting gsprofval:

The "shovel ready jobs" basically don't exist; at the most those are very short temporary jobs.

Fours years is quite long enough to make a difference; now the liberals say he is just now getting to it sometime in the quite distant future maybe.

Giving billions to bankrupt companies is not a smart move at all and created absolutely NO JOB at all.

Now companies are laying off in great numbers. The only jobs to be found right now are part time Christmas help; those will be very temporary too since predictions  are that Christmas gift sales will be low this year because of the fiscal cliff we are facing.

And let's not forget the 80,000 troops being laid off because of Obama policy.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2012/01/10/reminder_obama_to_lay_off_80000_us_soldiers

Quoting JakeandEmmasMom:

 It is a great soundbite.  It isn't exactly true.  It indicates that he did that at the exclusion of jobs.  He did try to create jobs.  It's just that the "shovel ready" jobs are only now coming to fruition.  All of us that have a lot of road construction going on in our states right now?  That's where those jobs came from.  They took a lot longer to go through the local and state bureaucracies than we were led to believe.  This is going to be a long slog.  Anyone who thinks that Romney has some secret magic wand that he is going to wave and *poof* there will suddenly be all of these jobs is fooling herself.

 

 

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