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Romney on '47%': I was 'completely wrong'

Posted by on Oct. 7, 2012 at 6:19 AM
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FISHERSVILLE, Va. (AP) -- Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney has described his disparaging remarks about the 47% of Americans who don't pay federal income taxes as "not elegantly stated." Now he's calling them "just completely wrong."

The original remarks, secretly recorded during a fundraiser in May and posted online in September by the magazine Mother Jones, sparked intense criticism of Romney and provided fodder to those who portray him as an out-of-touch millionaire oblivious to the lives of average Americans. The remarks became a staple of Obama campaign criticism.

Initially, Romney defended his view, telling reporters at a news conference shortly after the video was posted that his remarks were "not elegantly stated" and that they were spoken "off the cuff." He didn't disavow them, however, and later adopted as a response when the remarks were raised that his campaign supports "the 100% in America."

In an interview Thursday night with Fox News, Romney was asked what he would have said had the "47%" comments come up during his debate in Denver on Wednesday night with President Obama.
"Well, clearly in a campaign, with hundreds if not thousands of speeches and question-and-answer sessions, now and then you're going to say something that doesn't come out right," Romney said. "In this case, I said something that's just completely wrong."

He added: "And I absolutely believe, however, that my life has shown that I care about 100% and that's been demonstrated throughout my life. And this whole campaign is about the 100%."

Critics of Romney's "47%" remarks noted that many of those who don't pay federal incomes taxes pay other forms of taxes. More than 16 million elderly Americans avoid federal income taxes solely because of tax breaks that apply only to seniors, the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center reports. Millions of others don't pay federal income taxes because they don't earn enough after deductions and exemptions.

Acknowledging error is rare for Romney. Asked recently whether his TV ads had strayed from the facts, he said they had been "absolutely spot-on." Fact-checking operations have argued otherwise.

Some conservatives rallied around Romney after the video surfaced, urging him to stand behind the remarks as accurate despite the criticism.
"There are 47% of the people who will vote for the president no matter what," Romney said in the video. "There are 47% who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe that government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you name it."

"Forty-seven percent of Americans pay no income tax," Romney said, and that his role "is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."

Romney later told reporters at a news conference called to address the remarks: "It's not elegantly stated, let me put it that way. I was speaking off the cuff in response to a question. And I'm sure I could state it more clearly in a more effective way than I did in a setting like that."



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Citygirlk
by on Oct. 7, 2012 at 6:23 AM
Im happy that he realized that he was wrong, ( which i bet has a lot to do with his campain advisors) but come on mitt when will the flip flopping end?.
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by Gold Member on Oct. 7, 2012 at 6:53 AM
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Quoting Citygirlk:

Im happy that he realized that he was wrong, ( which i bet has a lot to do with his campain advisors) but come on mitt when will the flip flopping end?.

The essence is that bad policy can promote an dependency society.  There are plenty of good arguments for that. 

As far as his statistics, I am glad he's admitted they were wrong.  It was much like Obama's "bitter clingers" comment.  I'd much rather support Romney who can admit fault when he has spoken badly than someone like Obama who was wrong, whose comment promoted the racial and ethnic divide and to this day has not renounced them.

Furthermore, it's disgusting when making amends amounts to a "flipflop." If that were true, I'd really like to see President Obama "flipflop" a whole lot more.

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gsprofval
by Gold Member on Oct. 7, 2012 at 7:02 AM

I am glad that Romney has the guts to say he is wrong. He is human and will admit when he makes a mistake.

obummer still hasn't admitted he lied about the embassy attack--and many lives were lost in that one.

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by Silver Member on Oct. 7, 2012 at 7:11 AM
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Hi,

It isnt just his comments it is his policies and flip flopping.How can you trust a man that says one thing on the campaign trail,another behind closed doors with his millionaire supporters,and a completely different thing on the debate stage?Shannon Obrien in MA ....Romneys home state ran against him and 2002 and said he will say anything to get into office.  http://www.makingpages.org/politics/romney/

What about that teacher that got silenced by him by saying I didnt ask you a question.

He acts like a sneaky fox.Once he gets into office there will be no government programs like he claimed ONLY on the debate stage.Before on the trail and behind closed doors his claims are very different....he says get rid of obama care that %47 are moochers dependent on gov.Now hes all smiley on stage and says he will give assistance....hmmmm....but on your web page it still says you have got the ax out.....but not on the rich!

This means medicare to vouchers,pre-existing diseased people like with breast cancer wont be covered,education assistance like no child left behind,head start,pell grants,college loans,unemployment,welfare to work programs.

I dont know....just know what you are and why you are voting for him.If you read the fine lines on his policies it says high tax the middle class,f**ck the poor,and the richer get greedier and richer.

~Tia

jaxTheMomm
by Gold Member on Oct. 7, 2012 at 10:51 AM
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Ok, which is it?  Was it inelegantly stated, or was it completely wrong?

When that video came out, some members here were falling all over themselves to insist it was taken out of context.

When it became obvious that it wasn't, some members declared he was right, and 47% of Americans are moochers.

Romney defended his comments.  Then he said they were inelegantly stated.  Now he's saying it was completely wrong, and you want me to believe you think he's just owning up to simple human error as opposed to backing completely away from an incredibly offensive portion of a speach he seemed to give quite assertively?

Sisteract
by Socialist Hippie on Oct. 7, 2012 at 11:17 AM
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Flip-Flop

Both MR and his rabid fans-

Gaileey
by on Oct. 7, 2012 at 11:27 AM
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he didn't admit he was wrong cause he actually believes it- he is doing that to try to do damage control. it's like trying to sell  a pile of horse crap - can't sell it.  then you pour a bunch of sugar over it.  and people BUY IT - it's still sugar coated crap!!!!  if you support Romney for anything on his platform then still supporting him is a choice - but you can't make THIS something it isn't - he didn't just see the light - he BELIEVES the things he was saying!!!!

he was speaking candidily then, with no knowledge of cameras on him - that is the REAL ROMNEY.  Regardless of who you are of how much you make - how can anyone support someone who thinks half of america sucks.  that is not someone who should be elected.

 

Sisteract
by Socialist Hippie on Oct. 7, 2012 at 11:29 AM

Huge obstacle to overcome.

The debate allowed MR's campaign to stand another 10 days...they have to try and mitigate that horrible comment. Huge battle, IMO-

Quoting Gaileey:

he didn't admit he was wrong cause he actually believes it- he is doing that to try to do damage control. it's like trying to be sold a pile or horse crap - can't sell it.  then you pour a bunch of sugar over it.  and people BUY IT - it's still sugar coated crap!!!!

he was speaking candidily then, with no knowledge of cameras on him - that is the REAL ROMNEY.  Regardless of who you are of how much you make - how can anyone support someone who thinks half of america sucks.  that is not someone who should be elected.



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broncfan
by Silver Member on Oct. 7, 2012 at 11:31 AM
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I really think what happened was he took one sub group and lumped them in a larger group.  I know for sure that there are people in this country that are moochers, I also know they do not pay taxes and I know that they will not vote for Romney, no matter what.  He took this sub group and put them out there as being the entire group of "non income tax payers"  In this he was wrong 100%.  He knows it and he has said he was wrong, but on the other hand he stands behind the fact that there are moochers, that will never take responsibility for themselves that also will never vote for him.

We see it on here, people that say "he will take away my (whatever)". 

Romney was right, he just did not pin-point the sub set of people he was talking about.  I for one I glad we have someone that would like to see us get a little "tough love" going and get this sub-set off their asses and adding something to society instead of being moochers.

shimamab
by on Oct. 7, 2012 at 11:34 AM
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I say his sentiment was real, but his percentage was wrong. Why can't he just say that instead of walking it all the way back to zero? Now he wants us to believe what? He didn't mean any of it? I don't get it. Own your mistakes, apologize, clarify, but to say "oops, I didn't mean it at all" seems shady.

Quoting jaxTheMomm:

Ok, which is it?  Was it inelegantly stated, or was it completely wrong?

When that video came out, some members here were falling all over themselves to insist it was taken out of context.

When it became obvious that it wasn't, some members declared he was right, and 47% of Americans are moochers.

Romney defended his comments.  Then he said they were inelegantly stated.  Now he's saying it was completely wrong, and you want me to believe you think he's just owning up to simple human error as opposed to backing completely away from an incredibly offensive portion of a speach he seemed to give quite assertively?

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