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Romney on '47%': I was 'completely wrong'

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FISHERSVILLE, Va. (AP) -- Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney has described his disparaging remarks about the 47% of Americans who don't pay federal income taxes as "not elegantly stated." Now he's calling them "just completely wrong."

The original remarks, secretly recorded during a fundraiser in May and posted online in September by the magazine Mother Jones, sparked intense criticism of Romney and provided fodder to those who portray him as an out-of-touch millionaire oblivious to the lives of average Americans. The remarks became a staple of Obama campaign criticism.

Initially, Romney defended his view, telling reporters at a news conference shortly after the video was posted that his remarks were "not elegantly stated" and that they were spoken "off the cuff." He didn't disavow them, however, and later adopted as a response when the remarks were raised that his campaign supports "the 100% in America."

In an interview Thursday night with Fox News, Romney was asked what he would have said had the "47%" comments come up during his debate in Denver on Wednesday night with President Obama.
"Well, clearly in a campaign, with hundreds if not thousands of speeches and question-and-answer sessions, now and then you're going to say something that doesn't come out right," Romney said. "In this case, I said something that's just completely wrong."

He added: "And I absolutely believe, however, that my life has shown that I care about 100% and that's been demonstrated throughout my life. And this whole campaign is about the 100%."

Critics of Romney's "47%" remarks noted that many of those who don't pay federal incomes taxes pay other forms of taxes. More than 16 million elderly Americans avoid federal income taxes solely because of tax breaks that apply only to seniors, the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center reports. Millions of others don't pay federal income taxes because they don't earn enough after deductions and exemptions.

Acknowledging error is rare for Romney. Asked recently whether his TV ads had strayed from the facts, he said they had been "absolutely spot-on." Fact-checking operations have argued otherwise.

Some conservatives rallied around Romney after the video surfaced, urging him to stand behind the remarks as accurate despite the criticism.
"There are 47% of the people who will vote for the president no matter what," Romney said in the video. "There are 47% who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe that government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you name it."

"Forty-seven percent of Americans pay no income tax," Romney said, and that his role "is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."

Romney later told reporters at a news conference called to address the remarks: "It's not elegantly stated, let me put it that way. I was speaking off the cuff in response to a question. And I'm sure I could state it more clearly in a more effective way than I did in a setting like that."



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Citygirlk
by on Oct. 7, 2012 at 4:33 PM
The thing is at first he stood by that comment and owned it, now hes going back on it. The only reason i think he would do so is so that during the next debates he wont get attacked for them.

Quoting Dimples303:

Both Obama and Romney have said stupid things, they are both human...

People that are comfortable with being dependent on the government (And I'm not referring to people that actually NEED assistance) aren't going to give up their free food, money and housing. More so, with the way the economy is going under Obama, a lot people that DONT want to be dependent on the government have no choice because they cant find decent jobs to support their families!

The more dependent people are on the the government, the more POWER and CONTROL the government has over everyone. Our so called "free country" is becoming less and less. 

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1Giovanni
by Bronze Member on Oct. 7, 2012 at 5:11 PM


Quoting broncfan:


Quoting JonJon:

Every time I see that statement I almost laugh.   How dare the lazy bums desire good doctors, good medications,food and a safe, warm place to live, among other things?!

Cake, anyone?



His statement was so wrong BUT when you are talking about what ever percentage it is that are moochers and do feel entitled I agree "how dare they desire good doctors, good medications,food and a safe, warm place to live, among other things?! "

I had one of these moochers tell me last night that she would not be spraying her sick baby's noise out with Simply Saline because it was not covered by the baby's "card" (Medicaid card) so she can't afford it.  She is telling me this as she tapped on her Iphone 5 with her inch long very well manicured fingernails.  These people are out there, they work the system, it needs to stop so we can help those that can not help themselves.  I want to take these babies and cut off the benefits to the parents I do not care if they starve in the streets, these children would be better off in group homes.

Have you lived in a foster home? If you haven't then you really have no clue if they will be better off.


Sisteract
by Socialist Hippie on Oct. 7, 2012 at 6:18 PM
Yes, he did and his facts were wrong. Interesting that most of us knew it was wrong and inaccurate from the onset. I expect a financial and economic guru to be much quicker in correcting such an obvious error.

Quoting broncfan:

I really think what happened was he took one sub group and lumped them in a larger group.  I know for sure that there are people in this country that are moochers, I also know they do not pay taxes and I know that they will not vote for Romney, no matter what.  He took this sub group and put them out there as being the entire group of "non income tax payers"  In this he was wrong 100%.  He knows it and he has said he was wrong, but on the other hand he stands behind the fact that there are moochers, that will never take responsibility for themselves that also will never vote for him.


We see it on here, people that say "he will take away my (whatever)". 


Romney was right, he just did not pin-point the sub set of people he was talking about.  I for one I glad we have someone that would like to see us get a little "tough love" going and get this sub-set off their asses and adding something to society instead of being moochers.

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JonJon
by on Oct. 7, 2012 at 6:33 PM
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Quoting broncfan:


Quoting JonJon:

Every time I see that statement I almost laugh.   How dare the lazy bums desire good doctors, good medications,food and a safe, warm place to live, among other things?!

Cake, anyone?



His statement was so wrong BUT when you are talking about what ever percentage it is that are moochers and do feel entitled I agree "how dare they desire good doctors, good medications,food and a safe, warm place to live, among other things?! "

I had one of these moochers tell me last night that she would not be spraying her sick baby's noise out with Simply Saline because it was not covered by the baby's "card" (Medicaid card) so she can't afford it.  She is telling me this as she tapped on her Iphone 5 with her inch long very well manicured fingernails.  These people are out there, they work the system, it needs to stop so we can help those that can not help themselves.  I want to take these babies and cut off the benefits to the parents I do not care if they starve in the streets, these children would be better off in group homes.

I get a laugh out of all of you who know rich poor people with iphones and manicures and designer clothes who neglect their children.

Report her and you'll have what you want; her on the street and her baby being warehoused in the homes of people who truly do care more about the welfare checks and food stamps they get for each of the 10 or more kids they take in and then force the older kids to take care of the younger kids.

You do realize politicians want people to focus on the poor people rather than the bankers and the huge corporations because corporate welfare is taking a lot more of the money out of the budget than kids and their moms and dads, don't you? 

Your energies are best directed at putting rich lazy bastards on the streets than poor moms and dads.

broncfan
by Silver Member on Oct. 7, 2012 at 7:28 PM


Quoting JonJon:


Quoting broncfan:

 

Quoting JonJon:

Every time I see that statement I almost laugh.   How dare the lazy bums desire good doctors, good medications,food and a safe, warm place to live, among other things?!

Cake, anyone?



His statement was so wrong BUT when you are talking about what ever percentage it is that are moochers and do feel entitled I agree "how dare they desire good doctors, good medications,food and a safe, warm place to live, among other things?! "

I had one of these moochers tell me last night that she would not be spraying her sick baby's noise out with Simply Saline because it was not covered by the baby's "card" (Medicaid card) so she can't afford it.  She is telling me this as she tapped on her Iphone 5 with her inch long very well manicured fingernails.  These people are out there, they work the system, it needs to stop so we can help those that can not help themselves.  I want to take these babies and cut off the benefits to the parents I do not care if they starve in the streets, these children would be better off in group homes.

I get a laugh out of all of you who know rich poor people with iphones and manicures and designer clothes who neglect their children.

Report her and you'll have what you want; her on the street and her baby being warehoused in the homes of people who truly do care more about the welfare checks and food stamps they get for each of the 10 or more kids they take in and then force the older kids to take care of the younger kids.

You do realize politicians want people to focus on the poor people rather than the bankers and the huge corporations because corporate welfare is taking a lot more of the money out of the budget than kids and their moms and dads, don't you? 

Your enegies are best directed at putting rich lazy bastards on the streets than poor moms and dads.

And it just amazes me that people would rather laugh at the people that are concerned than cry over the cause.

I do not choose to "know" the people with Iphones that neglect their children I am forced to deal with them in order to care for their neglected children.  So many sit at home and never have to get their hand dirty with these kids, but some of us are in the trenches seeing the truth.

What bleeding heart liberals (I was one once) do not understand is that all their programs, benefits, checks and stamps are not helping the helpless children at all. In fact they are hurting these kids with every added benefit.  As long as we coddle and give to those that can work we are not helping the kids, we are enabling the parents to continue to be selfish and lazy.  There has to be a way (and will be figured out by someone smarter than me) to provide these kids with the food, shelter and healthcare they require in-spite of their parents.  But we continue to hurt these kids by "helping" their parents.

So, yes I do report, I am mandated to report any suspicion of neglect, abuse of children and welfare fraud.

I would rather see a business or business man, that is working and/or supplying jobs get a benefit, than a lazy, able to work man/woman get one just because they can reproduce.

There is also a huge difference in the working poor and the lazy poor. I put the % of the lazy poor at about 15-25 % of those getting benefits, but this is only based on what I see come through the hospital where I work.

jaxTheMomm
by Gold Member on Oct. 7, 2012 at 7:45 PM
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Which programs are hurting children?  WIC?  Unemployment?  Food stamps?  Social security?  Subsidized breakfasts and lunches?  Health clinics?

I would propose that in your specific job, you may see and experience what *could* be the worst of the worst.  What they see is a woman judging them, so it's all perspective.

My SIL had 2 children and didn't work; she was terrified to drive or leave the house.  When her husband faced crippling depression and quit his job, she overcame her fears and learned to drive, then began working.

Then she inherited her very young niece and nephew when her sister died.  Then she had an "oops" baby.  Now her husband is working again (minimum wage) and they are struggling.  I won't defend her choices in life, she's still very young in some ways but now realizes what it's going to take. 

Her food stamps just got cut in half and she doesn't know how she'll feed her 5 young children.  They live in a leaky trailer a few states away; family helps as they can.  They have no medical insurance and won't for about another 6 or 7 months when her husband's benefits kick in (thanks WalMart!).  She can't afford to work because she can't afford day care.  And trust me - she doesn't have an iPhone and has probably never, in her life, had a professional manicure.  She lives off of hand me downs.

Which programs would you feel hurt her children?  The one that allows her to feed them, or the one that provides counselling for a very wounded little 7 year old orphan? 

Quoting broncfan:


Quoting JonJon:


Quoting broncfan:


Quoting JonJon:

Every time I see that statement I almost laugh.   How dare the lazy bums desire good doctors, good medications,food and a safe, warm place to live, among other things?!

Cake, anyone?



His statement was so wrong BUT when you are talking about what ever percentage it is that are moochers and do feel entitled I agree "how dare they desire good doctors, good medications,food and a safe, warm place to live, among other things?! "

I had one of these moochers tell me last night that she would not be spraying her sick baby's noise out with Simply Saline because it was not covered by the baby's "card" (Medicaid card) so she can't afford it.  She is telling me this as she tapped on her Iphone 5 with her inch long very well manicured fingernails.  These people are out there, they work the system, it needs to stop so we can help those that can not help themselves.  I want to take these babies and cut off the benefits to the parents I do not care if they starve in the streets, these children would be better off in group homes.

I get a laugh out of all of you who know rich poor people with iphones and manicures and designer clothes who neglect their children.

Report her and you'll have what you want; her on the street and her baby being warehoused in the homes of people who truly do care more about the welfare checks and food stamps they get for each of the 10 or more kids they take in and then force the older kids to take care of the younger kids.

You do realize politicians want people to focus on the poor people rather than the bankers and the huge corporations because corporate welfare is taking a lot more of the money out of the budget than kids and their moms and dads, don't you? 

Your enegies are best directed at putting rich lazy bastards on the streets than poor moms and dads.

And it just amazes me that people would rather laugh at the people that are concerned than cry over the cause.

I do not choose to "know" the people with Iphones that neglect their children I am forced to deal with them in order to care for their neglected children.  So many sit at home and never have to get their hand dirty with these kids, but some of us are in the trenches seeing the truth.

What bleeding heart liberals (I was one once) do not understand is that all their programs, benefits, checks and stamps are not helping the helpless children at all. In fact they are hurting these kids with every added benefit.  As long as we coddle and give to those that can work we are not helping the kids, we are enabling the parents to continue to be selfish and lazy.  There has to be a way (and will be figured out by someone smarter than me) to provide these kids with the food, shelter and healthcare they require in-spite of their parents.  But we continue to hurt these kids by "helping" their parents.

So, yes I do report, I am mandated to report any suspicion of neglect, abuse of children and welfare fraud.

I would rather see a business or business man, that is working and/or supplying jobs get a benefit, than a lazy, able to work man/woman get one just because they can reproduce.

There is also a huge difference in the working poor and the lazy poor. I put the % of the lazy poor at about 15-25 % of those getting benefits, but this is only based on what I see come through the hospital where I work.

*

JonJon
by on Oct. 7, 2012 at 7:47 PM
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Quoting broncfan:


Quoting JonJon:


Quoting broncfan:


Quoting JonJon:

Every time I see that statement I almost laugh.   How dare the lazy bums desire good doctors, good medications,food and a safe, warm place to live, among other things?!

Cake, anyone?



His statement was so wrong BUT when you are talking about what ever percentage it is that are moochers and do feel entitled I agree "how dare they desire good doctors, good medications,food and a safe, warm place to live, among other things?! "

I had one of these moochers tell me last night that she would not be spraying her sick baby's noise out with Simply Saline because it was not covered by the baby's "card" (Medicaid card) so she can't afford it.  She is telling me this as she tapped on her Iphone 5 with her inch long very well manicured fingernails.  These people are out there, they work the system, it needs to stop so we can help those that can not help themselves.  I want to take these babies and cut off the benefits to the parents I do not care if they starve in the streets, these children would be better off in group homes.

I get a laugh out of all of you who know rich poor people with iphones and manicures and designer clothes who neglect their children.

Report her and you'll have what you want; her on the street and her baby being warehoused in the homes of people who truly do care more about the welfare checks and food stamps they get for each of the 10 or more kids they take in and then force the older kids to take care of the younger kids.

You do realize politicians want people to focus on the poor people rather than the bankers and the huge corporations because corporate welfare is taking a lot more of the money out of the budget than kids and their moms and dads, don't you? 

Your enegies are best directed at putting rich lazy bastards on the streets than poor moms and dads.

And it just amazes me that people would rather laugh at the people that are concerned than cry over the cause.

I do not choose to "know" the people with Iphones that neglect their children I am forced to deal with them in order to care for their neglected children.  So many sit at home and never have to get their hand dirty with these kids, but some of us are in the trenches seeing the truth.

What bleeding heart liberals (I was one once) do not understand is that all their programs, benefits, checks and stamps are not helping the helpless children at all. In fact they are hurting these kids with every added benefit.  As long as we coddle and give to those that can work we are not helping the kids, we are enabling the parents to continue to be selfish and lazy.  There has to be a way (and will be figured out by someone smarter than me) to provide these kids with the food, shelter and healthcare they require in-spite of their parents.  But we continue to hurt these kids by "helping" their parents.

So, yes I do report, I am mandated to report any suspicion of neglect, abuse of children and welfare fraud.

I would rather see a business or business man, that is working and/or supplying jobs get a benefit, than a lazy, able to work man/woman get one just because they can reproduce.

There is also a huge difference in the working poor and the lazy poor. I put the % of the lazy poor at about 15-25 % of those getting benefits, but this is only based on what I see come through the hospital where I work.

You prove you're full of displaced anger and not full of facts.  The number of people who commit welfare fraud as recipients is more like 1-3% who take the government for hundreds of thousands of dollars a year who don't have any children or who have jobs while collecting welfare or who collect welfare in two or three different states.  The worst welfare fraud is committed by the service providers like unethical doctors and dentists and pharmacists who overcharge and take the government for millions of dollars a year..

How much work do you really believe people like Donald Trump do other than the art of the deal?  These are lazy guys who make their money by buying things cheap and selling them expensive.  Donald got rich buying and selling land and office buildings.  Then he created golf courses and casinos.  He sells neckties and fragrances.  He tried to sell water which is the laziest, fakiest way to get rich of all!  I'll take mine from the tap, s'il vous plait! 

All the lazy slobs who went into banking so they could run them into bankruptcy and then look to the government for bailouts at the tune of billions of dollars should be made to pay back the bailout money and then made to do some hard, honest work that'll grow hair on their flat chests and put callouses on their girly-soft hands.

broncfan
by Silver Member on Oct. 7, 2012 at 7:56 PM


Quoting jaxTheMomm:

Which programs are hurting children?  WIC?  Unemployment?  Food stamps?  Social security?  Subsidized breakfasts and lunches?  Health clinics?

I would propose that in your specific job, you may see and experience what *could* be the worst of the worst.  What they see is a woman judging them, so it's all perspective.

My SIL had 2 children and didn't work; she was terrified to drive or leave the house.  When her husband faced crippling depression and quit his job, she overcame her fears and learned to drive, then began working.

Then she inherited her very young niece and nephew when her sister died.  Then she had an "oops" baby.  Now her husband is working again (minimum wage) and they are struggling.  I won't defend her choices in life, she's still very young in some ways but now realizes what it's going to take. 

Her food stamps just got cut in half and she doesn't know how she'll feed her 5 young children.  They live in a leaky trailer a few states away; family helps as they can.  They have no medical insurance and won't for about another 6 or 7 months when her husband's benefits kick in (thanks WalMart!).  She can't afford to work because she can't afford day care.  And trust me - she doesn't have an iPhone and has probably never, in her life, had a professional manicure.  She lives off of hand me downs.

Which programs would you feel hurt her children?  The one that allows her to feed them, or the one that provides counselling for a very wounded little 7 year old orphan? 

Quoting broncfan:

 

Quoting JonJon:


Quoting broncfan:

 

Quoting JonJon:

Every time I see that statement I almost laugh.   How dare the lazy bums desire good doctors, good medications,food and a safe, warm place to live, among other things?!

Cake, anyone?



His statement was so wrong BUT when you are talking about what ever percentage it is that are moochers and do feel entitled I agree "how dare they desire good doctors, good medications,food and a safe, warm place to live, among other things?! "

I had one of these moochers tell me last night that she would not be spraying her sick baby's noise out with Simply Saline because it was not covered by the baby's "card" (Medicaid card) so she can't afford it.  She is telling me this as she tapped on her Iphone 5 with her inch long very well manicured fingernails.  These people are out there, they work the system, it needs to stop so we can help those that can not help themselves.  I want to take these babies and cut off the benefits to the parents I do not care if they starve in the streets, these children would be better off in group homes.

I get a laugh out of all of you who know rich poor people with iphones and manicures and designer clothes who neglect their children.

Report her and you'll have what you want; her on the street and her baby being warehoused in the homes of people who truly do care more about the welfare checks and food stamps they get for each of the 10 or more kids they take in and then force the older kids to take care of the younger kids.

You do realize politicians want people to focus on the poor people rather than the bankers and the huge corporations because corporate welfare is taking a lot more of the money out of the budget than kids and their moms and dads, don't you? 

Your enegies are best directed at putting rich lazy bastards on the streets than poor moms and dads.

And it just amazes me that people would rather laugh at the people that are concerned than cry over the cause.

I do not choose to "know" the people with Iphones that neglect their children I am forced to deal with them in order to care for their neglected children.  So many sit at home and never have to get their hand dirty with these kids, but some of us are in the trenches seeing the truth.

What bleeding heart liberals (I was one once) do not understand is that all their programs, benefits, checks and stamps are not helping the helpless children at all. In fact they are hurting these kids with every added benefit.  As long as we coddle and give to those that can work we are not helping the kids, we are enabling the parents to continue to be selfish and lazy.  There has to be a way (and will be figured out by someone smarter than me) to provide these kids with the food, shelter and healthcare they require in-spite of their parents.  But we continue to hurt these kids by "helping" their parents.

So, yes I do report, I am mandated to report any suspicion of neglect, abuse of children and welfare fraud.

I would rather see a business or business man, that is working and/or supplying jobs get a benefit, than a lazy, able to work man/woman get one just because they can reproduce.

There is also a huge difference in the working poor and the lazy poor. I put the % of the lazy poor at about 15-25 % of those getting benefits, but this is only based on what I see come through the hospital where I work.

*


Your sister is in the population that all these other people that CAN work hurt.  If we have 25% of the benefits going to those that could work but will not, that is 25% that could be going to people like your sister in the form of higher/better benefits.  I do not believe we need a cut in welfare dollars I believe we need welfare reform so that those that can work but will not (because it is to easy not to) can be tax paying citizens along with being off the rolls.  If the system worked correctly, your sister would not only have the food stamps to feed her children she would be able to feed them healthy, fresh foods, she would not be living in a leaky trailer, but would be living in a middle class standard section 8 housing so her kids could be in safe neighborhoods with good schools and safe living conditions.  If the system worked correctly your sister could get the help she needs to overcome her phobias and be able to walk her kids to the bus stop or go to the grocery store.  But our system does not work, so she will continue to worry about how to pay for food, live in a leaky trailer while those that can work take benefits from her and others.

SallyMJ
by Ruby Member on Oct. 7, 2012 at 7:59 PM

At least Romney admits when he's wrong....... Unlike Pres. Obama, who believes he is perfect.

Sisteract
by Socialist Hippie on Oct. 7, 2012 at 8:01 PM
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Jobs deficit.....not enough jobs.
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