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Romney tells the truth about dependency

Posted by on Oct. 8, 2012 at 8:49 PM
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Romney tells the truth about dependency

"There are 47% of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47% who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care of them, who believe that they are entitled to healthcare, to food, to housing, to you name it."Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney, from secretly recorded remarks at a fundraiser

Mitt Romney told the truth. His numbers may be debated, but Romney told the truth about government dependency and the baseline for liberal Democratic presidential candidates. Harry Hopkins, a top aide to President Franklin D. Roosevelt, the most liberal president in American history prior to President Barack Obama, summed up liberal electoral strategy a lifetime ago. "Tax and tax, "Hopkins said. "Spend and spend. Elect and elect."

Romney may have missed the mark on the exact numbers and many will attempt to repudiate his argument with phony philosophy as they try to refute the shocking reality of our growing welfare state. But data doesn't lie. 

Romney said 47 percent of Americans are "dependent upon government" and said these 47 percent will vote for Obama "no matter what." While there's no way to prove that all those folks will vote for Obama, Romney was actually referring to a growing social and fiscal problem when he identified his "47 percent" as those who "pay no income tax."
In a 2010 column, I quoted Scott Hodge of the Tax Foundation:


"The number of 'nonpayers' can be expected to soar due to programs such as President Obama's 'Making Work Pay' tax credit. We now have an enormous class of Americans who are disconnected from the cost of government and have no skin in the game, and that is not good for democracy. It's a very serious problem for not only our democracy but for our society to have so many people disconnected from the cost of government," Hodge said. "If you know someone else is paying for something, you'll demand ever more of it." 

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gsprofval
by Gold Member on Oct. 8, 2012 at 8:50 PM

So was Romney right about the number of nonpayers? Data doesn't lie as the graph below from the Heritage Foundation shows:

  Romney was making a larger point, though. Under Obama, the number of Americans receiving some type of government assistance has skyrocketed and shows no signs of abating. Again, as the chart from the Senate Budget Committee shows, data doesn't lie.

 

As the Weekly Standard reported:

Food stamps and Medicaid make up a large--and growing--chunk of the more than 100 million recipients. "Among the major means tested welfare programs, since 2000 Medicaid has increased from 34 million people to 54 million in 2011 and the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP, or food stamps) from 17 million to 45 million in 2011," says the Senate Budget Committee. "Spending on food stamps alone is projected to reach $800 billion over the next decade."

Romney said, "(M)y job is not to worry about those people," Romney said of welfare-receiving Obama supporters. "I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives." Again, Romney told the truth. He cannot convince those on the dole to step up and take charge of their own destiny. For too long too many Americans have been told they are victims, that the successful have somehow taken something from them, that the wealthy are responsible for their dire straits or that the system is stacked against them.

Obama and his acolytes and idolaters will no doubt make much of Romney's frank assessment. But he is voicing - granted, inartfully - the concern of many Americans that government has become too much of a helicopter mommy, hovering too close to American life in a laughable attempt to try to prevent any harm from coming to any American. Many Americans feel Uncle Sam has turned into Uncle Sugar (as in "Daddy") and our nation is the worse for it. A majority of Americans still - after four years of Obama - think government does too much. Data doesn't lie and Gallup helpfully

gsprofval
by Gold Member on Oct. 8, 2012 at 8:50 PM

released new data today:
Of course, the loudest voice in this blame game comes from the very one who has blamed every unfulfilled promise, every unmet expectation, every failed program, every foolish policy and the worsening conditions in our country on everyone but himself. The Victim-in-Chief has opened the door to greater dependency, greater evasion of responsibility and an unprecedented expansion of the welfare state. Those investing nothing (the nonpayers) and receiving much (the 100-plus million on welfare) have nothing to gain and everything to lose by even considering anything but a vote for Obama. 

Data doesn't lie. Neither did Romney.

Posted by Greg Johnson on September 17, 2012 at 9:45 PM | 

 

Sisteract
by Socialist Hippie on Oct. 8, 2012 at 9:00 PM

The number is important- 

Sorry, entitled- some of those folks are millionaires- lowered their federal tax rates to zilch. I wondered if he is equally disgusted with those entiled folks? Government is taking care of them too- I am sure they use services of some sort.

He shouldn't have said anything of this sort, sorry- he stepped in crap on that one.


Serenitymom
by on Oct. 8, 2012 at 9:19 PM

I think its wrong that there are cuts among the lower income. I think they need to make it harder to get or keep rather than take it away. The people that are dependent on it are hurting the people that actually need it. They have already made cuts on the state level in Kansas and many places have had headstart shut down here, and there is talk about more cuts in the federal level. I was just needing one more year of assistance while I'm in school, just to get on my feet well enough to not need assistance as a single mom. And sadly after going to a parent leadership conference in topeka, single moms are the ones that are hurting with those cuts the most.

Jambo4
by Gold Member on Oct. 8, 2012 at 11:25 PM

BUMP!

GardenerArtist
by Bronze Member on Oct. 9, 2012 at 12:23 AM


Quoting Serenitymom:

I think its wrong that there are cuts among the lower income. I think they need to make it harder to get or keep rather than take it away. The people that are dependent on it are hurting the people that actually need it. They have already made cuts on the state level in Kansas and many places have had headstart shut down here, and there is talk about more cuts in the federal level. I was just needing one more year of assistance while I'm in school, just to get on my feet well enough to not need assistance as a single mom. And sadly after going to a parent leadership conference in topeka, single moms are the ones that are hurting with those cuts the most.

exactly. I experienced the same thing under Reaganomics in the 80's as a single mom with 3 kids.  And, here we are again.

Sisteract
by Socialist Hippie on Oct. 9, 2012 at 12:25 AM

And Reagan eventually raised taxes on the middle class too- He had to-unless the MATH wouldn't work.

Quoting GardenerArtist:


Quoting Serenitymom:

I think its wrong that there are cuts among the lower income. I think they need to make it harder to get or keep rather than take it away. The people that are dependent on it are hurting the people that actually need it. They have already made cuts on the state level in Kansas and many places have had headstart shut down here, and there is talk about more cuts in the federal level. I was just needing one more year of assistance while I'm in school, just to get on my feet well enough to not need assistance as a single mom. And sadly after going to a parent leadership conference in topeka, single moms are the ones that are hurting with those cuts the most.

exactly. I experienced the same thing under Reaganomics in the 80's as a single mom with 3 kids.  And, here we are again.


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