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by on Oct. 10, 2012 at 1:24 AM
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JonJon
by on Oct. 10, 2012 at 7:27 AM


Quoting 143myboys9496:

 Actually no I don't party. I pay my mortgage for my home that's valued more for taxes than if I sold it in the real estate market.

I pay FULL RATE TAXES..."claim zero and married but withhold at the single higher rate"

Save for my retirement

Pay my bills, on time every month

Saving for my kids' college tuition, which took a beating (lost money)

Drive to work, NOW paying $4 a gallon for gas.

SUPPORT my 2 children withOUT gov't help.

Pay for my eldest's college tuition..since our gov't run SALLIE MAE wanted to charge my 12.9% intrest on my son's student loan..their HIGHEST RATE. I called 6 banks..and found 1 that offers student loans without wanting a piece of my liver.

THAT'S what I've been doing with my money.

**I'm not against gov't assistance or PA, I'm against abuses of it.**

Quoting JonJon:


Quoting 143myboys9496:

 "Sounds like a fun party:free people who read books, drink and have sex."

That's the problem with most liberals..ALL they want to do is parrrrrty.

Put down Karma Sutra, the bottle of wine, extract yourselves from the orgi and:

 GET A JOB, contribute to society, and stop whining and trying to live off other people's HARD EARNED MONEY/TAXES.

Geez...

Conservatives like to amass money...what do you do with it, stuff it in your mattresses and sleep on it? Nah, you guys party, too; you just don't do it as well as we do it!

Here's the thing; Romney says the stupidest things such as that which he said at the dinner about the 47% but as a Mormon he can't drink so he doesn't even have the grape he imbibes while partying to blame for his tremendously bigoted and insensitive statements!

 

You talk as if you're a single man.  If you hadn't written you're married but file single so more money is withheld I'd be thinking you're a single mom.  So you file that way to make sure you don't have anything to pay come April 15th?  Not a good idea. 

It's best to keep as much as you can, perhaps in a CD or invested in blue chips.  Your money could be earning you interest or dividends.  Then you make the one lump sum payment or better yet, pay in installments while your money continues to earn interest.

The President has said he's working on getting colleges to bring down their tuitions or not raise them and he's also working on lowering interest on student loans; he's also working on giving people like you some tax breaks so relief is on the way!

          

Carpy
by Platinum Member on Oct. 10, 2012 at 7:55 AM
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I agree with the author, but the term he should have used is progressives.  Many of the younger generation do not realize what they think is liberalsim is not.  And by what JonJon wrote, apparently many older people don't realize it either.

imamomzilla
by on Oct. 10, 2012 at 8:35 AM
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 It's also the prefix for LIBERTINE- n. licentious person

1. Lacking moral discipline or ignoring legal restraint, especially in sexual conduct.
2. Having no regard for accepted rules or standards.




 "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so". ~Ronald Reagan

143myboys9496
by Gold Member on Oct. 10, 2012 at 9:12 AM
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Quoting JonJon:


Quoting 143myboys9496:

 Actually no I don't party. I pay my mortgage for my home that's valued more for taxes than if I sold it in the real estate market.

I pay FULL RATE TAXES..."claim zero and married but withhold at the single higher rate"

Save for my retirement

Pay my bills, on time every month

Saving for my kids' college tuition, which took a beating (lost money)

Drive to work, NOW paying $4 a gallon for gas.

SUPPORT my 2 children withOUT gov't help.

Pay for my eldest's college tuition..since our gov't run SALLIE MAE wanted to charge my 12.9% intrest on my son's student loan..their HIGHEST RATE. I called 6 banks..and found 1 that offers student loans without wanting a piece of my liver.

THAT'S what I've been doing with my money.

**I'm not against gov't assistance or PA, I'm against abuses of it.**

 

 

You talk as if you're a single man.  If you hadn't written you're married but file single so more money is withheld I'd be thinking you're a single mom.  So you file that way to make sure you don't have anything to pay come April 15th?  Not a good idea. 

It's best to keep as much as you can, perhaps in a CD or invested in blue chips.  Your money could be earning you interest or dividends.  Then you make the one lump sum payment or better yet, pay in installments while your money continues to earn interest.

The President has said he's working on getting colleges to bring down their tuitions or not raise them and he's also working on lowering interest on student loans; he's also working on giving people like you some tax breaks so relief is on the way!

 I did that once..once..and had to pay the government $3000. Never again..NOT EVER. Don't get me wrong, my dh works, 50-60 hour weeks. But after 22 years at the same employer I'm in too deep to get out. I earn three times what my dh earns annually. If the dollar isn't strong (and right now it's not) it doesn't go as far..plus everything's going up, milk, eggs, gas, groceries in general.

My dh is SUPER good with investing. He did my Vanguard portfolio, and when the market swirled in the toilet whirlpool my portfolio lost some but not as much because of his choices. (my dh missed his calling..he should have been an investment advisor)

I've been waiting for tax breaks for 4 years...4 years..how long do I have to wait??? Especially when they were promised within the first 3 years. He promised to reduce the deficit within the first 4 years, he didn't. He promised to make college tuition more affordable within the first 4 years he didn't.He promised gas wouldn't go up, it's almost doubled. He promised SO many things, all he did was pass Obamacare..which technically wasn't his..it was Ted Kennedy's. I mean if Obamacare is so great then why don't our esteemed congressmen/women and president ditch their expensive exclusive deluxe plan they have that WE pay for?? AND they shouldn't get their congressional salaries for life..and they do. It's outrageous.

Sallie Mae is a government run lending agency...they gave me an intrest rate of 12.9% their highest rate. My credit score is well over 800, after I declined the loan they sent me the info that had my credit score on it..over 800. How is that making college more affordable...to anyone?? 12.9%??

If our government went to a simple flat tax, no one would need deductions, and the IRS could be trimmed down significantly. AND our government would have MORE than enough money for all they wanted. NO deductions, no loopholes. A simple flat tax for everyone..Warren Buffet, Donald Trump, Mitt Romney, even Barak Obama...sorry I digressed into Wonderland. ;)

Kmary
by Bronze Member on Oct. 10, 2012 at 9:16 AM
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Congratulations.  You've managed to take something tongue in cheek, cute and fun and make it overly dramatic and partisan.   We knew you could do it.

Quoting blondekosmic15:

Liberalism, Socialism, Communism: Links in the chains of Slavery!

Our Founding Fathers, being keenly attuned to the goal of personal freedom, accurately analyzed the manner in which freedom was so trampled by the political systems from which they had fled in Europe. Their genius was the recognition that tyranny must be expected from unfettered governmental power. How wise they were, to separate our government into three branches, such that each could keep an eye on the other two.

The Liberals, those who advocate a "nanny government", are not in tune with the American people whose mind-set is oriented toward freedom. As one who has lived in a country with a totalitarian police state, where freedom is not even considered except as part of a lie, (the lie being that freedom means to live under their system) this writer knows some parallels between the totalitarian police state and our American Liberals and/or Socialists.

 

  1. They both claim that the government is the solution.
  2.  

  3. They both assume the people are too stupid to take care of themselves.

     

  4. They both assume that they, the elite, are somehow superior, and thus, have the right to rule.

     

  5. They both are afraid of the people; so much so, that they try to eliminate free speech. (The police state does so by forbidding assembly; the U.S. Liberals do so by such devices as "political correctness".)

     

  6. They both fear an armed citizenry. The totalitarians, since they have the power, simply forbid it, while the American Liberals use all their propaganda machinery to make it appear that the right to bear arms is Neanderthal, and is not connected to the issue of freedom of the citizenry. (Would an emperor want his peasants armed?)

     

  7. They both spring from the secular humanist philosophy which dictates that freedom is a gift from the state, as opposed to the thinking of our Founding Fathers, who recognized that freedom is God-given, thus the state must be suspected and prevented from taking the people's God given freedom. Genius!

Liberalism is a kissing-cousin to Socialism, as Socialism is to Communism...

Continued>

http://www.freedom.org/board/articles/bailor-205.html


imamomzilla
by on Oct. 10, 2012 at 9:18 AM
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 '  To my fellow Lib's   '

Libs is plural, not possessive. Please correct. Thank you.

teacher

imamomzilla
by on Oct. 10, 2012 at 9:22 AM
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 I just want to say that you sound like one smart cookie...welcome to the group.

welcome

*whew!* JJ had me nervous, giving out investment advice. LOL

Quoting 143myboys9496:

 

Quoting JonJon:


Quoting 143myboys9496:

 Actually no I don't party. I pay my mortgage for my home that's valued more for taxes than if I sold it in the real estate market.

I pay FULL RATE TAXES..."claim zero and married but withhold at the single higher rate"

Save for my retirement

Pay my bills, on time every month

Saving for my kids' college tuition, which took a beating (lost money)

Drive to work, NOW paying $4 a gallon for gas.

SUPPORT my 2 children withOUT gov't help.

Pay for my eldest's college tuition..since our gov't run SALLIE MAE wanted to charge my 12.9% intrest on my son's student loan..their HIGHEST RATE. I called 6 banks..and found 1 that offers student loans without wanting a piece of my liver.

THAT'S what I've been doing with my money.

**I'm not against gov't assistance or PA, I'm against abuses of it.**

 

 

You talk as if you're a single man.  If you hadn't written you're married but file single so more money is withheld I'd be thinking you're a single mom.  So you file that way to make sure you don't have anything to pay come April 15th?  Not a good idea. 

It's best to keep as much as you can, perhaps in a CD or invested in blue chips.  Your money could be earning you interest or dividends.  Then you make the one lump sum payment or better yet, pay in installments while your money continues to earn interest.

The President has said he's working on getting colleges to bring down their tuitions or not raise them and he's also working on lowering interest on student loans; he's also working on giving people like you some tax breaks so relief is on the way!

 I did that once..once..and had to pay the government $3000. Never again..NOT EVER. Don't get me wrong, my dh works, 50-60 hour weeks. But after 22 years at the same employer I'm in too deep to get out. I earn three times what my dh earns annually. If the dollar isn't strong (and right now it's not) it doesn't go as far..plus everything's going up, milk, eggs, gas, groceries in general.

My dh is SUPER good with investing. He did my Vanguard portfolio, and when the market swirled in the toilet whirlpool my portfolio lost some but not as much because of his choices. (my dh missed his calling..he should have been an investment advisor)

I've been waiting for tax breaks for 4 years...4 years..how long do I have to wait??? Especially when they were promised within the first 3 years. He promised to reduce the deficit within the first 4 years, he didn't. He promised to make college tuition more affordable within the first 4 years he didn't.He promised gas wouldn't go up, it's almost doubled. He promised SO many things, all he did was pass Obamacare..which technically wasn't his..it was Ted Kennedy's. I mean if Obamacare is so great then why don't our esteemed congressmen/women and president ditch their expensive exclusive deluxe plan they have that WE pay for?? AND they shouldn't get their congressional salaries for life..and they do. It's outrageous.

Sallie Mae is a government run lending agency...they gave me an intrest rate of 12.9% their highest rate. My credit score is well over 800, after I declined the loan they sent me the info that had my credit score on it..over 800. How is that making college more affordable...to anyone?? 12.9%??

If our government went to a simple flat tax, no one would need deductions, and the IRS could be trimmed down significantly. AND our government would have MORE than enough money for all they wanted. NO deductions, no loopholes. A simple flat tax for everyone..Warren Buffet, Donald Trump, Mitt Romney, even Barak Obama...sorry I digressed into Wonderland. ;)

 




 "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so". ~Ronald Reagan

imamomzilla
by on Oct. 10, 2012 at 9:27 AM
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 Why...because she gave you a dose of reality?

toddler tantrum BOO HOO!

We all know Libs hate little things like facts.

Quoting Kmary:

Congratulations.  You've managed to take something tongue in cheek, cute and fun and make it overly dramatic and partisan.   We knew you could do it.

Quoting blondekosmic15:

Liberalism, Socialism, Communism: Links in the chains of Slavery!

Our Founding Fathers, being keenly attuned to the goal of personal freedom, accurately analyzed the manner in which freedom was so trampled by the political systems from which they had fled in Europe. Their genius was the recognition that tyranny must be expected from unfettered governmental power. How wise they were, to separate our government into three branches, such that each could keep an eye on the other two.

The Liberals, those who advocate a "nanny government", are not in tune with the American people whose mind-set is oriented toward freedom. As one who has lived in a country with a totalitarian police state, where freedom is not even considered except as part of a lie, (the lie being that freedom means to live under their system) this writer knows some parallels between the totalitarian police state and our American Liberals and/or Socialists.

 

  1. They both claim that the government is the solution.
  2.  

     

  3. They both assume the people are too stupid to take care of themselves.

     

  4. They both assume that they, the elite, are somehow superior, and thus, have the right to rule.

     

  5. They both are afraid of the people; so much so, that they try to eliminate free speech. (The police state does so by forbidding assembly; the U.S. Liberals do so by such devices as "political correctness".)

     

  6. They both fear an armed citizenry. The totalitarians, since they have the power, simply forbid it, while the American Liberals use all their propaganda machinery to make it appear that the right to bear arms is Neanderthal, and is not connected to the issue of freedom of the citizenry. (Would an emperor want his peasants armed?)

     

  7. They both spring from the secular humanist philosophy which dictates that freedom is a gift from the state, as opposed to the thinking of our Founding Fathers, who recognized that freedom is God-given, thus the state must be suspected and prevented from taking the people's God given freedom. Genius!

Liberalism is a kissing-cousin to Socialism, as Socialism is to Communism...

Continued>

http://www.freedom.org/board/articles/bailor-205.html

 

 




 "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so". ~Ronald Reagan

samurai_chica
by Bronze Member on Oct. 10, 2012 at 9:29 AM
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You are aware that there is a large percentage or republicans on PA right?

The most poor country in the US is a conservative state...and a very good chunk of those conservatives are on welfare.

Stop assuming that all libs are jobless & not contributing to society...you are making yourself look ignorant.

Quoting 143myboys9496:

 "Sounds like a fun party:free people who read books, drink and have sex."

That's the problem with most liberals..ALL they want to do is parrrrrty.

Put down Karma Sutra, the bottle of wine, extract yourselves from the orgi and:

 GET A JOB, contribute to society, and stop whining and trying to live off other people's HARD EARNED MONEY/TAXES.

Geez...


samurai_chica
by Bronze Member on Oct. 10, 2012 at 9:31 AM

wow...what do you know. We actually have a lot in common...except that i am liberal.

I bet you would love to assume that i am on some kind of PA and want some kind of a hand out.

Quoting 143myboys9496:

 Actually no I don't party. I pay my mortgage for my home that's valued more for taxes than if I sold it in the real estate market.

I pay FULL RATE TAXES..."claim zero and married but withhold at the single higher rate"

Save for my retirement

Pay my bills, on time every month

Saving for my kids' college tuition, which took a beating (lost money)

Drive to work, NOW paying $4 a gallon for gas.

SUPPORT my 2 children withOUT gov't help.

Pay for my eldest's college tuition..since our gov't run SALLIE MAE wanted to charge my 12.9% intrest on my son's student loan..their HIGHEST RATE. I called 6 banks..and found 1 that offers student loans without wanting a piece of my liver.

THAT'S what I've been doing with my money.

**I'm not against gov't assistance or PA, I'm against abuses of it.**

Quoting JonJon:


Quoting 143myboys9496:

 "Sounds like a fun party:free people who read books, drink and have sex."

That's the problem with most liberals..ALL they want to do is parrrrrty.

Put down Karma Sutra, the bottle of wine, extract yourselves from the orgi and:

 GET A JOB, contribute to society, and stop whining and trying to live off other people's HARD EARNED MONEY/TAXES.

Geez...

Conservatives like to amass money...what do you do with it, stuff it in your mattresses and sleep on it? Nah, you guys party, too; you just don't do it as well as we do it!

Here's the thing; Romney says the stupidest things such as that which he said at the dinner about the 47% but as a Mormon he can't drink so he doesn't even have the grape he imbibes while partying to blame for his tremendously bigoted and insensitive statements!

 


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