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Although I do think the VP debate was very close to a draw, much of that is Biden's demeanor, which IMO really damaged his credibility. The GOP wasted no time highlighting it:

 

Now of course Biden was doing his "that's malarky stuff" laugh as a way to laugh off Ryan, but I found it grating and unbecoming after the first time. The thought that comes to me is, "This is a seasoned, mature politician with much more years under his belt, this is the Vice President. Is this really how he presents himself after all that?" While Ryan was articulate, he lacked gravitas and a bold manner, yet that is something he can grow into as a VP.

If Biden had reflected the respect due to his office, he would have won, IMO. Yet his manner, something we have little to no reason to expect him to change, was found wanting.

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by on Oct. 12, 2012 at 7:58 AM
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Meadowchik
by Gold Member on Oct. 12, 2012 at 11:01 AM
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Oh please, Paul Ryan is much more prepared than Obama was in 2008 to be POTUS.  So, yes, I think that he is certainly ready to be VP.

Quoting JonJon:

The Vice-President deftly disarmed the usually cocky, arrogant Ryan by laughing in his face!  That Biden is debate-savy!  It worked, too, because Ryan's face was red from embarrassment almost the whole time and his throat was so dry he drank half a pitcher of water. At one point, Ryan's eyes got watery; I thought he was going to cry

You shouldn't be advocating the Vice-Presidency as on-the-job training for Ryan.  Let's stay with the well-seasoned political veteran who has know "Bibi" Netanyahu for 39 years.

 

imamomzilla
by on Oct. 12, 2012 at 11:01 AM
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 That's your idea of "savvy"? More like disrespectful and obnoxious...but then again, dirty debating seems to be your forte.

Paul Ryan is athletic. People who are active drink a lot of fluids. Guess you're not familiar with that. ;-)

Remember, the candidate who wins is just a "heartbeat away". My pick is for the adult in the room...not Krusty the Clown.

Quoting JonJon:

The Vice-President deftly disarmed the usually cocky, arrogant Ryan by laughing in his face!  That Biden is debate-savy!  It worked, too, because Ryan's face was red from embarrassment almost the whole time and his throat was so dry he drank half a pitcher of water. At one point, Ryan's eyes got watery; I thought he was going to cry

You shouldn't be advocating the Vice-Presidency as on-the-job training for Ryan.  Let's stay with the well-seasoned political veteran who has know "Bibi" Netanyahu for 39 years.

 


JakeandEmmasMom
by Gold Member on Oct. 12, 2012 at 11:02 AM
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 But that's just stating the obvious.  We have yet to hear specifically what Romney would do differently.  We have ideas, but at this point it's so much pie in the sky.

Quoting Meadowchik:

Ryan did quite well explaining that the current path is untenable, that essentially the current plan is not working, that the current sluggish "recovery" is inadequate, and that Obama's proposals are inadequate.

Quoting JakeandEmmasMom:

 I agree, Meadow, that it was basically a draw.  I also agree that Biden went overboard with the laughing. 

However, I think he did a good job with pressing Ryan and not backing down, highlighting that Romney has more of an idea of what he would like to do, but not any real specifics.  "We'll work together once we get to Washington to hammer out the specifics (paraphrasing)" isn't a very satisfactory answer when you consider the gridlock that has been Washington the last several years.  It makes it sound like their promises are somewhat hollow.

 

 

loisl25
by Member on Oct. 12, 2012 at 11:14 AM
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I just totally stole this for fb!!

Quoting imamomzilla:

 There's a meme for that! You beat me to it. :-)

Quoting rocketracer:

If a wise man has an argument with a foolish man, the fool only rages or laughs, and there is no rest.

 


Meadowchik
by Gold Member on Oct. 12, 2012 at 11:16 AM
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Not so much.  Romney's plan is much more credible on growth aspects than Obama's.  Remember that Obama's is very much "pie in the sky," right now.  Who is more credible in the aspect of business growth?

The obvious shouldn't be ignored.

Quoting JakeandEmmasMom:

 But that's just stating the obvious.  We have yet to hear specifically what Romney would do differently.  We have ideas, but at this point it's so much pie in the sky.

Quoting Meadowchik:

Ryan did quite well explaining that the current path is untenable, that essentially the current plan is not working, that the current sluggish "recovery" is inadequate, and that Obama's proposals are inadequate.

Quoting JakeandEmmasMom:

 I agree, Meadow, that it was basically a draw.  I also agree that Biden went overboard with the laughing. 

However, I think he did a good job with pressing Ryan and not backing down, highlighting that Romney has more of an idea of what he would like to do, but not any real specifics.  "We'll work together once we get to Washington to hammer out the specifics (paraphrasing)" isn't a very satisfactory answer when you consider the gridlock that has been Washington the last several years.  It makes it sound like their promises are somewhat hollow.

 

 

 

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Sisteract
by Socialist Hippie on Oct. 12, 2012 at 11:42 AM
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This morning more than one fact checker and economist reviewed the economic plan put forward by Ryan. ALL found this plan mathematically impossible.

Impossible- a fabrication, miscue, pie-in the-sky.

People need to engage. The truth should not be ignored.

Quoting Meadowchik:

Not so much.  Romney's plan is much more credible on growth aspects than Obama's.  Remember that Obama's is very much "pie in the sky," right now.  Who is more credible in the aspect of business growth?

The obvious shouldn't be ignored.

Quoting JakeandEmmasMom:

 But that's just stating the obvious.  We have yet to hear specifically what Romney would do differently.  We have ideas, but at this point it's so much pie in the sky.

Quoting Meadowchik:

Ryan did quite well explaining that the current path is untenable, that essentially the current plan is not working, that the current sluggish "recovery" is inadequate, and that Obama's proposals are inadequate.

Quoting JakeandEmmasMom:

 I agree, Meadow, that it was basically a draw.  I also agree that Biden went overboard with the laughing. 

However, I think he did a good job with pressing Ryan and not backing down, highlighting that Romney has more of an idea of what he would like to do, but not any real specifics.  "We'll work together once we get to Washington to hammer out the specifics (paraphrasing)" isn't a very satisfactory answer when you consider the gridlock that has been Washington the last several years.  It makes it sound like their promises are somewhat hollow.

 

 

 


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Meadowchik
by Gold Member on Oct. 12, 2012 at 12:09 PM

 Those are not all economists. 

Why are you ignoring the truth that Obama's plan does not add up???

I do think that Romney in good faith believes Americans can innovate into further productivity and growth, with good reason. 

Quoting Sisteract:

This morning more than one fact checker and economist reviewed the economic plan put forward by Ryan. ALL found this plan mathematically impossible.

Impossible- a fabrication, miscue, pie-in the-sky.

People need to engage. The truth should not be ignored.

Quoting Meadowchik:

Not so much.  Romney's plan is much more credible on growth aspects than Obama's.  Remember that Obama's is very much "pie in the sky," right now.  Who is more credible in the aspect of business growth?

The obvious shouldn't be ignored.

Quoting JakeandEmmasMom:

 But that's just stating the obvious.  We have yet to hear specifically what Romney would do differently.  We have ideas, but at this point it's so much pie in the sky.

Quoting Meadowchik:

Ryan did quite well explaining that the current path is untenable, that essentially the current plan is not working, that the current sluggish "recovery" is inadequate, and that Obama's proposals are inadequate.

Quoting JakeandEmmasMom:

 I agree, Meadow, that it was basically a draw.  I also agree that Biden went overboard with the laughing. 

However, I think he did a good job with pressing Ryan and not backing down, highlighting that Romney has more of an idea of what he would like to do, but not any real specifics.  "We'll work together once we get to Washington to hammer out the specifics (paraphrasing)" isn't a very satisfactory answer when you consider the gridlock that has been Washington the last several years.  It makes it sound like their promises are somewhat hollow.

 

 

 


 

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WinningWinning
by on Oct. 12, 2012 at 12:34 PM
I completely agree with this OP.

I feel what I was witnessing was a man who was trying too hard to make up lost ground. He went the wrong route.

Whereas Ryan was somewhat lackluster yet mature and refined.

Some do not find mature and refined to be an asset during political debates.
godotherightthi
by on Oct. 12, 2012 at 12:38 PM

I agree.  I think Ryan did a good job on the defense, which is what he was sent in to do.  I don't think Ryan was sent in to strike hard, that's Romney's job, I think he was sent in to hold his own - which he did.  Biden's behavior only helped Ryan among independants.

PeeperSqueak
by on Oct. 12, 2012 at 1:28 PM
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It's really maddening that he finds the suffering of the American people amusing.  I don't see anything funny about the failure of BO and his thugs !

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