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Did Paul Ryan “borrow” story about his daughter from Kurt Cobain?

Posted by on Oct. 12, 2012 at 5:35 PM
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Reddit community member robcross1977 noted something odd about Paul Ryan’s story last night about how he became pro-life.

Here’s Paul Ryan during last night’s debate on how he became pro-life, and how his daughter got the nickname “Bean”:

You know, I think about 10 1/2 years ago, my wife Janna and I went to Mercy Hospital in Janesville where I was born, for our seven week ultrasound for our firstborn child, and we saw that heartbeat. A little baby was in the shape of a bean. And to this day, we have nicknamed our firstborn child Liza, “Bean.” Now I believe that life begins at conception.

And here’s Kurt Cobain’s and Courtney Love’s daughter Frances Bean Cobain on how she got the name “Bean” twenty years ago:

Frances Bean Cobain was born at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center, and was immediately anointed the world’s newest rock princess. Her parents were two of the biggest rock stars on the planet and her godfather is R.E.M frontman Michael Stipe. Kurt Cobain named his daughter after Frances McKee, the guitarist for The Vaselines, and gave her the middle named Bean because he thought she resembled a kidney bean on the ultrasound. Unfortunately, Frances never really got to know her father; he shot himself to death when she was just 20 months old.

Ryan is reportedly a Nirvana fan, the band that Kurt Cobain started and starred in. We’re to believe this is just a coincidence? Maybe.  Or maybe Paul Ryan plagiarized the story about his daughter?

What’s more likely is that Ryan named his daughter Bean because Cobain named his daughter Bean. But that wouldn’t have made a very good right-wingy story, for Ryan to explain that he named his kid after a grunge rock star who killed himself. Or even to say that the name was inspired by Cobain. So, better to borrow Cobain’s story and not even mention it.

Keep in mind that while it’s entirely possible that Paul Ryan had his “Bean” experience without knowing of Cobain’s, Ryan has a history of making up personal stories to embellish his image.  There was the time he claimed he climbed 40 of the Rocky Mountains.  Or the time he claimed to have run a marathon under three minutes.  From an interview Paul Ryan did with conservative blogger Hugh Hewitt:

Yeah, fast is one way of putting it.

And who can forget Ryan’s claim to have 6% body fat.  When you consider the source, it’s a valid question to ask.

So, even Paul Ryan’s most intimate part of the debate, talking about his Catholicism and abortion beliefs, might be phony.

PS Not to mention, so was Paul Ryan pro-choice before he “saw” his daughter as a bean?

by on Oct. 12, 2012 at 5:35 PM
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by on Oct. 12, 2012 at 6:09 PM
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Lots of people call their babies beans. Because they look like beans in early ultrasounds. Its not an original thought, no, but saying he stole it is a bit much, don't you think?
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by on Oct. 12, 2012 at 6:53 PM
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He believes life begins at conception because his baby looked like a bean on the ultrasound? Well if that doesn't discredit the life at conception argument, I don't know what does. (And I'm prolife).

by on Oct. 12, 2012 at 6:57 PM
Lots of people nickname their kids bean because of the ultrasound. I know a few people who did.
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by Bronze Member on Oct. 13, 2012 at 7:37 PM

I wouldn't put anything past Romney or Ryan.

by Ruby Member on Oct. 13, 2012 at 8:08 PM
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How trivial can you get?

by on Oct. 13, 2012 at 8:27 PM
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the least of my problems with Ryan is weather or not he plagiarized Kurt Cobain... this is a non issue

by on Oct. 13, 2012 at 8:32 PM
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If he plagiarized Kurt then so did EVERYONE else who nicknamed their kid "Bean"
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by Member on Oct. 13, 2012 at 8:39 PM

I think he's the type that would say whatever he has to to convince people of something. I remember my Dr. telling me that my baby looked like a peanut. It could be true, but if I found out he made it all up, I wouldn't be surprised.

by Member on Oct. 13, 2012 at 8:53 PM

Just to be fair, Ryan did answer that question with his religion/beliefs have clearly led him to his stance on prolife. The prompter asked them to incorporate a personal side of their stance which is why I believe he included the story of his daughter. Whether he coined "bean" as a nickname for his daughter really isn't relevant to the question he was answering. 

by Bronze Member on Oct. 13, 2012 at 9:01 PM
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Actually I don't care where he got this story, it is not that big of the deal. I think everyone has a bean or peanut story about their first kid. I just thought it sounded silly coming from him. Really this was a debate, I really didn't care what he called his first kid.

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