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Romney asked about Blacks and the Mormon Church *Video*

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I don't really care about Blacks and the Mormon Church but I thought it was interesting how Romney handled the questions.  Check his last appearance in the video; he hesitated a long as he searched for the "right" way to answer the question to satisfy the reporter.  He should have been better prepared to answer that question. 

          

by on Oct. 13, 2012 at 8:33 AM
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funnymommy71
by Member on Oct. 14, 2012 at 2:53 AM

That only means Biden is a hypocrite to his "faith"- cafeteria Catholic, convenient catholic etc.  He also is a WHORE, beholden to the highest Corporate bidder as all of DC is. Seperation of church and state means nothing when, by golly Corporations BUY our Representation.  WAKE UP before it is too late, Dems and Reps both!!!

Ron Paul- never was a Corporate whore. Ask that of the remaining 4... and remember the Suffragists that suffered and died for YOUR right to vote! Do they even teach that in schools..... ummmm, NO. My Great- Grandma was a Suffragist.  In DC- look it up- they BEAT women and some to death!!!!!  Vote very carefully as ladies and as Moms.

Quoting JonJon:

You mean the little clip wherein Biden says he holds with his Church but doesn't believe it's his right to impose his/his church's beliefs/tenets on non-Catholics?

That statement gave me confidence that when Biden shows up for work and puts on his VP paper hat, he leaves his personal beliefs and his church on the other side of the door.

Quoting Simmeringhearts:

Where is the little clips about Biden supporting abortion, even though the Catholic church is against it?



Lacey14
by Bronze Member on Oct. 14, 2012 at 3:03 AM
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You are too long winded, and your posts have no real substance.  Just full of air.

Quoting JonJon:


Embedding in green.

Quoting Lacey14:

Red

Quoting JonJon:

Another one who doesn't lose sleep over the truth.

This post isn't about religion; it's about Romney refusing to acknowledge his church once excluded blacks from joining,about how he couldn't say that's all changed and quote how many blacks have been accepted into the church. Why should he give statistics?  If you want to know, research it.

Did I say I wanted to know?  I couldn't care less.  It's not as if I intend to become Mormon any time soon or know of anyone who does. 

I'm just saying; he's volunteered all kinds of other information about Mormons, he can volunteer how active the Mormons have been recruiting and welcoming blacks into the church, just because he's so darned proud of them when directly asked.  I smh every time someone gets indignant when someone wants to discuss a topic they talk about if the discussion goes where they dare not go.

I'm sure if he knew any black Mormons he'd have said so. No, he isn't going to list names. 

Heh.  Don't act obtuse; no one asked for names.  How many times do I have to tell you not to put words in my fingertips?

I recently went to visitors day at a temple, and saw many black people in attendance.  

You really went to temple, and among ogling and admiring the architechture and art and "the word", you counted the many black people in attendance?  How many is many?

You are questioning Mitt's relationship to the history of a religion, that did not accept black's in the past.  

How about asking me what I'm questioning? 

But do you question Obama's relationship and influence from his own communist parents?  

I'm not questioning anything; I said here he is in a video fending off questions about the history of excluding blacks in the Mormon Church.  He loves his religion; loves being Mormon, he should love saying how much they've grown as a religion  I also pointed out how long he hesitated when asked if he believes everything in the Bible.  It's just stuff that made me go, "Hmmm..."  The President's parent's were communists?  That's a new one for me.  I'm used to people "accusing" the President of being socialist.  If his parents were commies, why haven't people been accusing the President of being a commie?
So is it in the President's books his parents were communists? 

I doubt you care.  

It's odd you went to political ideology from a discussion of religious ideology.  I don't care Romney is Mormon, why should I care what Romney's parents did, if they did that?  You haven't provided any proof.  You guys seldom provide any proof of what you say.  You just say it and expect it to be taken as gospel. 

Am I supposed to be upset at or afraid of Communists?  Nevermind; that's not the topic of my post.  If you want to accuse the President of having Communist parents, create a post and go nuts.

It's about how Mitt did not immediately say he believed the whole Bible or instead saying something about how the Bible is ancient and that it includes practices that are not currently condoned by today's society that he doesn't advocate such as stoning people to death or polygamy. Wow, he took about 1 second to gather his thoughts, so as not to make a zinger that dems were waiting for, and you still question him.  You probably know, the bible is a very hot topic, with people accepting and not accepting many parts of it.  You couldn't get Obama to say anything much different than Romney.  

One second?  Try a pause so long it was becoming palpable.

Romney refers to his religous beliefs, a lot.  The President does not.  If he did, I'd be questioning him, too, and so would reporters but he doesn't, so they don't and I don't.  Romney's set the precedence.  He shouldn't have done so without being ready with answers to any questions people could possibly ask.  That's called being prepared for anything.


It's a post about how Mitt practices avoidance and is willing to refer to his religion but when others ask about it, he acts uncomfortable and uncertain. Again, as many times as I've heard him, I havne't heard him mention his religion unless he was asked a question.  He is not uncomforatable or uncertain, just cautious about how things could get twisted by the left.  Perfectly understandable.  You are really looking for something devious, that just isn't there JonJon.


Devious?  That might be how you think but it's now how I think.  I see and hear things that bring certain thoughts and questions to mind.  I share my thought processes.  I share information I find.  Easy peasy, simple pimple.  I don't think Mitt is devious when it comes to religion.  I don't believe he really knows all that much about his religion but that doesn't make him religously devious.

Quoting Simmeringhearts:

The only reason she is focusing on religion because it is Romney. Biden is a practicing catholic. But, he supports abortion. I won't hold my breath for a clip on Biden.

Quoting conniejo75:

I do not believe it is right to focus on religion when this is a political race. Everyone can find good and bad in all religion.






Simmeringhearts
by on Oct. 14, 2012 at 8:00 AM

What I don't lose sleep over is your opinion.

Quoting JonJon:

Another one who doesn't lose sleep over the truth.

This post isn't about religion; it's about Romney refusing to acknowledge his church once excluded blacks from joining,about how he couldn't say that's all changed and quote how many blacks have been accepted into the church.  I'm sure if he knew any black Mormons he'd have said so.  It's about how Mitt did not immediately say he believed the whole Bible or instead saying something about how the Bible is ancient and that it includes practices that are not currently condoned by today's society that he doesn't advocate such as stoning people to death or polygamy. 

It's a post about how Mitt practices avoidance and is willing to refer to his religion but when others ask about it, he acts uncomfortable and uncertain.

Quoting Simmeringhearts:

The only reason she is focusing on religion because it is Romney. Biden is a practicing catholic. But, he supports abortion. I won't hold my breath for a clip on Biden.

Quoting conniejo75:

I do not believe it is right to focus on religion when this is a political race. Everyone can find good and bad in all religion.




Simmeringhearts
by on Oct. 14, 2012 at 8:09 AM

Just as you can't blame Mitt for what his church used to believe or for the magic fairy dust that some are sprinkling around now. Same as Obama attending a hateful church for 20 years.

Quoting -Eilish-:

George Romney is not the same man as Mitt Romney. You cannot attribute George Romney's accomplishments with Mitt Romney. They must be treated as individuals as children often rebel against their parents beliefs.

Quoting Jambo4:



Simmeringhearts
by on Oct. 14, 2012 at 8:27 AM
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Sorry. That line doesn't hold water. If he doesn't believe in it, he would not have voted for it.

Quoting aihendricks86:

He didnt say he supported abortion. he doesnt personally believe in it but doesnt think its right to impose his beliefs on others

Quoting Simmeringhearts:

Where is the little clips about Biden supporting abortion, even though the Catholic church is against it?



aihendricks86
by Member on Oct. 14, 2012 at 1:19 PM

he voted for people to have a choice. thats not voting for abortion

Quoting Simmeringhearts:

Sorry. That line doesn't hold water. If he doesn't believe in it, he would not have voted for it.

Quoting aihendricks86:

He didnt say he supported abortion. he doesnt personally believe in it but doesnt think its right to impose his beliefs on others

Quoting Simmeringhearts:

Where is the little clips about Biden supporting abortion, even though the Catholic church is against it?




-Eilish-
by Johnson 2012 on Oct. 14, 2012 at 3:18 PM
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Ummm ... not the same. If a person is overtly offended by tenants of a religious organization, or the speech of the pastor, AND THEY DISAGREE then they should not attend or be a member of that religious organization. If however they agree OR are at least not offended by the message, then there is at least tacit approval of that message.

Quoting Simmeringhearts:

Just as you can't blame Mitt for what his church used to believe or for the magic fairy dust that some are sprinkling around now. Same as Obama attending a hateful church for 20 years.

Quoting -Eilish-:

George Romney is not the same man as Mitt Romney. You cannot attribute George Romney's accomplishments with Mitt Romney. They must be treated as individuals as children often rebel against their parents beliefs.

Quoting Jambo4:





Xlandria
by Bronze Member on Oct. 14, 2012 at 3:53 PM


Quoting JonJon:

That's brand new information.  Fascinating.  Thanks.

Quoting norwgnwood:

It didn't just exclude blacks. Mormons believe(d) in polygamy because heaven has all these souls that need bodies therefore it was important to have as many babies a possible. Good souls go to white people and bad souls go to black people. The is what a former Mormon friend told me while discussing the religion. The underlined part is just plain garbage.  

Quoting JonJon:

Another one who doesn't lose sleep over the truth.

This post isn't about religion; it's about Romney refusing to acknowledge his church once excluded blacks from joining,about how he couldn't say that's all changed and quote how many blacks have been accepted into the church.  I'm sure if he knew any black Mormons he'd have said so.  It's about how Mitt did not immediately say he believed the whole Bible or instead saying something about how the Bible is ancient and that it includes practices that are not currently condoned by today's society that he doesn't advocate such as stoning people to death or polygamy. 

It's a post about how Mitt practices avoidance and is willing to refer to his religion but when others ask about it, he acts uncomfortable and uncertain.

Quoting Simmeringhearts:

The only reason she is focusing on religion because it is Romney. Biden is a practicing catholic. But, he supports abortion. I won't hold my breath for a clip on Biden.


Quoting conniejo75:

I do not believe it is right to focus on religion when this is a political race. Everyone can find good and bad in all religion.





Simmeringhearts
by on Oct. 14, 2012 at 4:04 PM

SERIOUSLY?! A choice for what?

Quoting aihendricks86:

he voted for people to have a choice. thats not voting for abortion

Quoting Simmeringhearts:

Sorry. That line doesn't hold water. If he doesn't believe in it, he would not have voted for it.

Quoting aihendricks86:

He didnt say he supported abortion. he doesnt personally believe in it but doesnt think its right to impose his beliefs on others

Quoting Simmeringhearts:

Where is the little clips about Biden supporting abortion, even though the Catholic church is against it?





Simmeringhearts
by on Oct. 14, 2012 at 4:06 PM

So, Obama attending the church for 20 years means he agreed with Wright?

Quoting -Eilish-:

Ummm ... not the same. If a person is overtly offended by tenants of a religious organization, or the speech of the pastor, AND THEY DISAGREE then they should not attend or be a member of that religious organization. If however they agree OR are at least not offended by the message, then there is at least tacit approval of that message.

Quoting Simmeringhearts:

Just as you can't blame Mitt for what his church used to believe or for the magic fairy dust that some are sprinkling around now. Same as Obama attending a hateful church for 20 years.

Quoting -Eilish-:

George Romney is not the same man as Mitt Romney. You cannot attribute George Romney's accomplishments with Mitt Romney. They must be treated as individuals as children often rebel against their parents beliefs.

Quoting Jambo4:





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