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A Positive in the Campaign!?

Posted by on Oct. 16, 2012 at 6:57 AM
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Your thoughts ladies.....

Romney's Mormonism is a positive in campaign

October 15, 2012
 

Are they right? Simply put, no. There is no Mormonization of America coming, and, in fact, though there are differences, the basic values of both Mormons and mainstream Christians are in sync.

The God of the Latter-day Saints is different from the God of traditional Christian orthodoxy. Mormons reject the Trinity and the traditional Christian doctrine that God created the world from nothing. Latter-day Saints believe that God reordered eternal preexisting matter.

Though Mormons believe that Jesus is now fully God, they do not believe he was always God. Joseph Smith wrote that, just as God "was once as we are now," Jesus over time grew into being God (the church's Book of Abraham 3:24). Like us, he started with divine potential and by his choices ended up as omniscient and omnipotent, just as we can. Christian orthodoxy, in contrast, teaches that the human Jesus is also divine by nature, but that we are not and never will be.

Nor do Mormons believe Jesus is the same god as his father, as Christian orthodoxy proclaims. For Smith and the resulting Mormon tradition, the Father and Son and Holy Ghost are three divine "personages," or gods, amid a "plurality of gods," according to a sermon that Joseph Smith gave just before he died. In that last discourse, Smith declared that the father of Jesus was his own father.

Should these differences in belief matter politically for evangelicals? Martin Luther did not think so. Commenting on the politics of his day, Luther proclaimed, "I would rather be governed by a wise Turk than a foolish Christian."

The realm of politics for Luther was not the realm of the church or salvation, for which refined theological distinctions were crucial. Politics deals with penultimate matters, where Christians are on equal ground with non-Christians when it comes to good judgment. Non-Christians have the capacity to exercise political virtues - common sense, practical reason, reflection on experience, prudence - as well as Christians. A wise Turk could possess good practical reason and prudence, while a foolish Christian might lack them.

Furthermore, qualifications for elected office have much more to do with political virtues, ideology, and worldly values than they do with refined theological beliefs. Luther would not have been upset that many of the Founding Fathers were deists and non-orthodox Christians. After all, he would say, we are electing political leaders, not bishops. Bishops are called to defend the faith; presidents are not. Politicians operate in a different, but not God-abandoned, realm. They are to make sure the nation is secure, that its economy is robust, and that justice is guarded and pursued. For Luther, wise Turks and deist Founding Fathers - and competent Mormons - could do that.

Some Americans, however, fear that a Mormon president would do what the Founding Fathers did not: impose a particular religion on the rest of us. They suspect that Mormons have theocratic tendencies, desiring to use politics to promote their own religion. After all, Mormons in their founding decades spoke of building Zion in the West.

But an interesting shift took place around the turn of the 20th century. Instead of developing a social or political ethic that would give them a blueprint for social transformation, they focused on individual agency and responsibility on the one hand, and private charity on the other. They now spend an inordinate time on the formation of their young and in taking care of their own in the areas where they are strong. The only issues that seem to bring them as a church into the political realm are those having to do with marriage and family life.

So evangelicals and other Americans need not fear a Mormon theocracy. And, truth be told, Romney's religion should be attractive to evangelicals and other classical Christians because of its connection to traditional moral values, which are right in line with those of evangelicals. On social issues such as abortion, marriage, sexual ethics, the traditional family, religious freedom, respect for authority, and public decency, Mormons and evangelicals are peas in a pod. Add to that the Mormon commitment to patriotism, free enterprise, fiscal probity, and private charity - and you have a marriage made in heaven.

So should Romney's Mormonism be politically significant for evangelicals? No and yes. No, if they think Romney's religious beliefs are unorthodox and will lead to the Mormonization of America. But yes, if they note the congruence between Mormonism's religiously based moral values and those of classic Christianity.

http://articles.philly.com/2012-10-15/news/34449779_1_mormon-tradition-christians-god
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imamomzilla
by on Oct. 16, 2012 at 1:11 PM
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 BUMP!

SlightlyPerfect
by Bronze Member on Oct. 16, 2012 at 1:16 PM
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No, it's definitely not a positive for a voter like me. But neither is Catholicism.

slightlyperfect

jillianmayasmom
by Bronze Member on Oct. 16, 2012 at 1:24 PM
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I don't care about any candidate's religion unless they are going to govern according to it.
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PeeperSqueak
by on Oct. 16, 2012 at 1:37 PM
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It's not a positive or a negative for me.....the religion is not a big issue for me as long as it's not a religion that pushes to convert by torture or death....any bullying for that matter. The big positive is if the candidate IS NOT Pro-death, pro-abort or any other label you want to put on it.  I would never cast my vote for someone such as this.

romalove
by SenseandSensibility on Oct. 16, 2012 at 1:44 PM
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Quoting PeeperSqueak:

It's not a positive or a negative for me.....the religion is not a big issue for me as long as it's not a religion that pushes to convert by torture or death....any bullying for that matter. The big positive is if the candidate IS NOT Pro-death, pro-abort or any other label you want to put on it.  I would never cast my vote for someone such as this.

 I'm anti-Inquisition and Crusades too!

PeeperSqueak
by on Oct. 16, 2012 at 1:58 PM

Yeah ! finally something we agree on !

Quoting romalove:

 

Quoting PeeperSqueak:

It's not a positive or a negative for me.....the religion is not a big issue for me as long as it's not a religion that pushes to convert by torture or death....any bullying for that matter. The big positive is if the candidate IS NOT Pro-death, pro-abort or any other label you want to put on it.  I would never cast my vote for someone such as this.

 I'm anti-Inquisition and Crusades too!


blondekosmic15
by Blonde on Oct. 16, 2012 at 2:01 PM
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I would love to have a Christian President but this is not necessary because there are many Candidates who deeply love this Country, who espouse the wisdom to tackle the important issues facing America. The Candidate's heart, honesty, the economy, transparency, the current debt/deficit, social & foreign policies, wisdom to address the internat'l scene and leaders abroad, friendship with our allies esp Israel, a willingness to work with both sides of the political isle without compromise of principles, are extremely important to me. Extensive research concerning the Candidates is essential to carefully evaluate the path they would take this Country. Particular issues take precedence for me. Mitt Romney was not my 1st choice but I do embrace the policies of limited gov't, low taxes, executive experience, respect for the sanctity of human life, religious freedom, a strong military, peace thru strength policies, true patriotism, sensitivities to the dangers in the ME we are facing, traditional marriage, respect for the Constitution etc. which Mitt Romney/Paul Ryan propose for America. They have my undivided attn. and my vote on Nov 6th~

blondekosmic15
by Blonde on Oct. 16, 2012 at 2:08 PM
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Quoting PeeperSqueak:

It's not a positive or a negative for me.....the religion is not a big issue for me as long as it's not a religion that pushes to convert by torture or death....any bullying for that matter. The big positive is if the candidate IS NOT Pro-death, pro-abort or any other label you want to put on it.  I would never cast my vote for someone such as this.

If a Candidate fails to respect the unborn child, they will be insensitive to other human life issues. Compassion for the most vulnerable reveals the heart of the person~

PeeperSqueak
by on Oct. 16, 2012 at 2:25 PM
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I agree.....I think if they are Pro-life then everything else will pretty much fall into place in time.

Quoting blondekosmic15:

 

Quoting PeeperSqueak:

It's not a positive or a negative for me.....the religion is not a big issue for me as long as it's not a religion that pushes to convert by torture or death....any bullying for that matter. The big positive is if the candidate IS NOT Pro-death, pro-abort or any other label you want to put on it.  I would never cast my vote for someone such as this.

If a Candidate fails to respect the unborn child, they will be insensitive to other human life issues. Compassion for the most vulnerable reveals the heart of the person~


SlightlyPerfect
by Bronze Member on Oct. 16, 2012 at 3:18 PM
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There are no such things as "unborn children" anymore there are "predead adults."

Quoting blondekosmic15:

If a Candidate fails to respect the unborn child, they will be insensitive to other human life issues. Compassion for the most vulnerable reveals the heart of the person~


slightlyperfect

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