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Who WON the 2nd Presidential debate? **Poll**

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Question: Who do you think won the 2nd Presidential debate?

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by on Oct. 16, 2012 at 10:41 PM
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AdellesMom
by on Oct. 24, 2012 at 4:35 PM

But, I'm not. Her own article disproved her assertion.
"It is unclear who, if anyone, saw the cable outside the CIA at that point and how high up in the agency the information went."

I asked her for a link--days ago--and she never provided one. She has been in the group since.

Quoting Carpy:

You are correct. adelle should be eating her words about now.

Quoting DSamuels:

No, that is a FACT that has come out in the last 24 hours. The CIA sent a cable detailing the fact that the were no protests of any kind in Benghazi that night, there were a couple of attacks with heavy weapons (RPGS and mortars) and it was in fact a militant attack.



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The CIA station chief in Libya reported to Washington within 24 hours of last month’s deadly attack on the U.S. Consulate that there was evidence it was carried out by militants, not a spontaneous mob upset about an American-made video ridiculing Islam’s Prophet Muhammad, U.S. officials have told The Associated Press.



It is unclear who, if anyone, saw the cable outside the CIA at that point and how high up in the agency the information went. The Obama administration maintained publicly for a week that the attack on the diplomatic mission in Benghazi that killed U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans was a result of the mobs that staged less-deadly protests across the Muslim world around the 11th anniversary of the 9/11 terror attacks on the U.S.



The AP wonders whether anyone read the CIA cable with this information. Let’s parse that out for just a moment. We suffered the death of a US Ambassador and three other Americans in the sacking of a consulate in a key area of the world. Wouldn’t one of the first items to check be information from the CIA’s station in the area? Given the fact that this came from the station chief and not just some lower-level scuttlebutt, either we can assume it got read immediately, or that the people running the show in Washington DC are so incompetent that it’s a wonder we have any diplomatic missions left at all.



The leak of this information is very interesting indeed, too. The defense from Barack Obama himself at the last presidential debate, as well as Susan Rice in the Wall Street Journal, is that the “spontaneous demonstration” story is what they were hearing from the intel community. This makes it very clear that their excuses are false, at least in large part, let alone the fact that State watched the attack unfold in real time and has video of the event, a fact revealed at the House Oversight Committee hearings last week. Unlike Hillary Clinton, the intel community apparently has no intention of being scapegoated for the White House’s cover story. That’s a big, big problem for Barack Obama and his righteous indignation.




Quoting AdellesMom:

No...what you stated is a conspiracy theory, not fact.




*SNIP
AdellesMom
by on Oct. 24, 2012 at 4:36 PM

Not at all. :)

lol

Quoting imamomzilla:

 Yea, I'll bet you see one every time you look in the mirror!

wink mini

Quoting AdellesMom:

That is untrue.

I was raised in a stric Christian home, and I was a Christian for many years. I have also taken the liberty of reading the Bible cover to cover on multiple occasions, cross-referencing, and taking part in just about any Bible study I could find.

I am no "Bible Scholar," and I am definitely not an "expert." However, my knowledge is great when it comes to Christianity.

I also know a hypocrite when I see one. ~

Quoting imamomzilla:

 Well then, you have no authority to judge those who are. See how that works?

Quoting AdellesMom:

Well, I'm not a Christian. The bible doesn't apply to me. :-)

Quoting imamomzilla:

 Well, at least you're modest.

I do believe that is the sort of "pride" that the Bible warns of. You might want to open one...just to be sure. ;-)

Quoting AdellesMom:

Oh, when I look in the mirror, I see nothing but radiating beauty. ;-)

I haven't stated anything even remotly "ugly." But, I am not a coward. I never delete my comments.

Quoting imamomzilla:

 I'm saving this just in case you decide to delete your ugliness....

 

Quoting AdellesMom:


 


 


Carpy
by Platinum Member on Oct. 24, 2012 at 4:37 PM
Actually, it was well stated. But you have fallen into the eye roll category for me, so your reply doesn't mean much.

Quoting AdellesMom:

It was a joke that accounts for your incomprhensible, incoherent, and unintelligent babble. I do not actually think that you do drugs. But, you should try to keep up.

Also, pot meet kettle. Romneyzombies and Rombots do the same damned thing. I love it when someone tries to act otherwise.

Quoting sheepinarowboat:

LOL!

I don't do drugs.  Nice come back though.  Losing an argument.  Just hurl an insult.   Typical Obamazombie.

Quoting AdellesMom:

LOL!



Put the pipe down.






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AdellesMom
by on Oct. 24, 2012 at 4:42 PM

Actually, it wasn't. It was filled with grammatical errors and gross erroneous missppellings. It is my belief that the only reason that you said that is because you agree with her crazy ramblings.

Why do you even bother replying to me if I have fallen into the "eye roll" category for you? Surely, you're capable of ignoring someone you don't care about, aren't you?

You take the internet way too seriously.

Quoting Carpy:

Actually, it was well stated. But you have fallen into the eye roll category for me, so your reply doesn't mean much.

Quoting AdellesMom:

It was a joke that accounts for your incomprhensible, incoherent, and unintelligent babble. I do not actually think that you do drugs. But, you should try to keep up.

Also, pot meet kettle. Romneyzombies and Rombots do the same damned thing. I love it when someone tries to act otherwise.

Quoting sheepinarowboat:

LOL!

I don't do drugs.  Nice come back though.  Losing an argument.  Just hurl an insult.   Typical Obamazombie.

Quoting AdellesMom:

LOL!



Put the pipe down.







Carpy
by Platinum Member on Oct. 24, 2012 at 4:45 PM
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Someone has to finally start saying NO.

Quoting AdellesMom:

Huh?

I said that Candy didn't recant her statement. I didn't say that she didn't step in. Also, I was not talking about the Bush Admin...I'm speaking about the current Admin. But, if you really want to go there, the Dems never had enough of a majority to do much. It's called filibustering, which is why the Republicans have been nicknamed the party of no.

If you don't know what a super majority is, you should take a basic Government class at a local community college.

I noticed that you don't answer questions. Why have you refused to tell me why you believe that Romney has integrity? I answered your questions, and I even corrected a couple of the erroneous assertions you made.

Quoting pvtjokerus:

I only skimmed a part of your comment below but under Bush's last years the Senate and Congress was democrat (2006).  So I don't know what your definition of 'super' majority is but running the senate and congress is pretty dang close.  And yes, Candy stepped in it according to some of your liberal press....


Quoting AdellesMom:


A ficticious book has no effect on me.


Quoting sheepinarowboat:








Ecc 7:6

For like the crackling of thorns under a pot, So [is] the laughter of the fool. This also is vanity.  


Quoting AdellesMom:

Why can't you learn the difference between "your" and you're?"



Anyhow, I can't help that your replies are downright hilarious, and that you spew tripe.



You proved my point. You called Obama a socialist, and you had to Google a definition. According to the definition you gave, Obama is NOT a Socialist. Ask anyone living in a Socialist country. They will tell you that he isn't a socialist.



You twisted my statement. You have comprehension issues. No, I'm not sexist. No, I don't have a problem with Romney hiring women. I DO have a problem with his "binders full of women" comment. It shows his tot disdain for women.



The Dems did NOT have a super majority under Bush...lol



Again with your lax reading comprehension skills. I'm talking about the CURRENT administration. The Dems only had a super majority for 26 days under this administration. So, I'm not talking out of "both sides of my face." You can disagree with it all you want, it doesn't matter--it's a fact.



The word is spelled *hypocrites. Learn how to spell.



The democrats didn't do anything to this country. Bush's policies got us into this mess, just like you blame Obama's policies (some of which haven't gone into effect) for what's going on now.



Sorry to burst the idiocy of that small republican bubble of yours, but I'm not on PA. I have a job, I make a six figure income. My husband and I are in the Upper Middle Class, and we're both college educated. My husband served in the US Military for over 17 years. Also, Obama did NOT start the phone program. George H. W.

Bush started that program, and his son GWB expanded the program. You're definitely barking up the wrong tree with your "if you care about the economy get rid of your free phone and get a job" bullshit.



Candy did not recant. Again, she said that Obama was correct and that Romney was partially correct. She said that Romney used the wrong words. Candy hasn't been made a "big laughing stock of the world."



My post isn't suspect...LOL Am I being paid by the Obama Administration? No. LOL Since you're a Romney supporter, are you being paid by the Romney Campaign? I'm willing to bet that you aren't. Just like I'm not working for the Obama Administration.



The rest of your post makes no sense. I haven't presented erroneous information. You have a difference of opinion, that's fine. That doesn't make anyone of us wrong. Why can't you understand that? It's the pot calling the kettle black. You cannot bitch about insults (something that I didn't do...I didn't insult you) and precede to insult me in the same sentence.



The fact if the matter is that we're facing a global economic crisis. Our economy will not get better until the global economy gets better. It doesn't matter who's elected on Novemeber 6th. Anyone expecting any of the 120+ candidates to be miracle workers needs to read up on the global economy. They also need to be realistic. I was realistic when Obama became elected, and that's why I'm not 100% disappointed with his administration.



I'm not on a "free ride." The illogic that you and your cronies spew about the bulk of Obama supporters being on PA is 100% incorrect. The poorest states are the reddest states. These states have the most people on PA. That's a fact. Like I said earlier, I'm not on PA. I never have been and I never will be on it.




A deity that I don't believe in will not so anything for me. I do not believe in your God--keep him out of this conversation.

Whatever it is that you're smoking, you need to put it down. Crazy doesn't look good on anyone.



Quoting sheepinarowboat:


You lost all your credibility when you started with "LOL!!".  If I can achieve an account here...I can google "Socialism" and encourage others to do so.  Redistribution of wealth is socialist. Perhaps YOU need to do some reading yourself.


Why is it the very people that deny Obama is a socialist ALSO have to add in there that socialism isn't such a bad idea. Probably because they are either getting paid by the Obama camp or have a phone or recieve food stamps, medical coverage etc.  Socialism is bad because you always always always end up running out of other people's money.  


SOCIALISM


1.  : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods.




2.a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property


 b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state




3.  : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional betweencapitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done


So it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see why this is a BAD idea.  Wake up and smell the bread lines.  


Binders full of women?  Where do you keep your list of potential candidates?  If you are trying to make sure you give equal opportunity to women, you may have a list of women to choose frome who have to hire or resource out.  You have a problem with Romney hiring women?  You sound sexist.


Why would I blame Bush for anything that happened when the Democrats had a SUPER MAJORITY?  They had run of this country and could override Bush's veto power so perhaps you need to read some history.


26 days?  OH so now your admitting they had a super majority.  You always talk out of both sides of your face?  I disagree with your 26 days to be sure.  However long they had it...they forced legislature down our throats forcing lenders to lend mortgages loans to subprime lenders as a way of evening the playing field for the poor.  Everyone knew it couldn't be continued indefinitely.  The lenders just had to eat it and as the forclosures rained down on us...you all turned your wagging tongues and wagging fingers as President Bush.  Hypocrits!  Hypocrits!  The democrats did this to our country. Not Bush or the Republicans.  It'll take a strong Republican to fix this.  Stand back and let the country do what it was intended to do and recover.  If you all can't do the job, get out of the way of the ones who can.  Oh and if you care so much about our economy, send back your free phone and get a job!!!!


Candy did recant.  She's been made a laughing stock of the world.  Your entire post is suspect.  Are you being paid by the Obama administration too?  I notice your using the typical method of trying to discredit my information and throwing out erroneous information.  This tactic of insults and false information won't work with me.  I've been dealing with this gutter mentality for decades now.  This information is out there for anyone who pays attention and isn't in this for a free hand out.  Self determination and independance is the American way.  Remember rugged individualism?  You all haven't killed it yet.  I can't WAIT to sing the good bye song to Obama when he has to pack up and move out of the White House.  If he gets re-elected then America deserves anything he has to dish out.  If people don't want to stand up and fight for their way of life and freedom...then they deserve what comes down the pike.  Enjoy your free ride for a little longer!  I pray God moves on the hearts of Americans to bring freedom and prosperity back to this nation.  You aren't going to get it with socialism.










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AdellesMom
by on Oct. 24, 2012 at 4:48 PM

More unintelligent banter...not surprising.

Quoting Carpy:

Someone has to finally start saying NO.

Quoting AdellesMom:

Huh?

I said that Candy didn't recant her statement. I didn't say that she didn't step in. Also, I was not talking about the Bush Admin...I'm speaking about the current Admin. But, if you really want to go there, the Dems never had enough of a majority to do much. It's called filibustering, which is why the Republicans have been nicknamed the party of no.

If you don't know what a super majority is, you should take a basic Government class at a local community college.

I noticed that you don't answer questions. Why have you refused to tell me why you believe that Romney has integrity? I answered your questions, and I even corrected a couple of the erroneous assertions you made.

Quoting pvtjokerus:

I only skimmed a part of your comment below but under Bush's last years the Senate and Congress was democrat (2006).  So I don't know what your definition of 'super' majority is but running the senate and congress is pretty dang close.  And yes, Candy stepped in it according to some of your liberal press....


Quoting AdellesMom:


A ficticious book has no effect on me.


Quoting sheepinarowboat:








Ecc 7:6

For like the crackling of thorns under a pot, So [is] the laughter of the fool. This also is vanity.  


Quoting AdellesMom:

Why can't you learn the difference between "your" and you're?"



Anyhow, I can't help that your replies are downright hilarious, and that you spew tripe.



You proved my point. You called Obama a socialist, and you had to Google a definition. According to the definition you gave, Obama is NOT a Socialist. Ask anyone living in a Socialist country. They will tell you that he isn't a socialist.



You twisted my statement. You have comprehension issues. No, I'm not sexist. No, I don't have a problem with Romney hiring women. I DO have a problem with his "binders full of women" comment. It shows his tot disdain for women.



The Dems did NOT have a super majority under Bush...lol



Again with your lax reading comprehension skills. I'm talking about the CURRENT administration. The Dems only had a super majority for 26 days under this administration. So, I'm not talking out of "both sides of my face." You can disagree with it all you want, it doesn't matter--it's a fact.



The word is spelled *hypocrites. Learn how to spell.



The democrats didn't do anything to this country. Bush's policies got us into this mess, just like you blame Obama's policies (some of which haven't gone into effect) for what's going on now.



Sorry to burst the idiocy of that small republican bubble of yours, but I'm not on PA. I have a job, I make a six figure income. My husband and I are in the Upper Middle Class, and we're both college educated. My husband served in the US Military for over 17 years. Also, Obama did NOT start the phone program. George H. W.

Bush started that program, and his son GWB expanded the program. You're definitely barking up the wrong tree with your "if you care about the economy get rid of your free phone and get a job" bullshit.



Candy did not recant. Again, she said that Obama was correct and that Romney was partially correct. She said that Romney used the wrong words. Candy hasn't been made a "big laughing stock of the world."



My post isn't suspect...LOL Am I being paid by the Obama Administration? No. LOL Since you're a Romney supporter, are you being paid by the Romney Campaign? I'm willing to bet that you aren't. Just like I'm not working for the Obama Administration.



The rest of your post makes no sense. I haven't presented erroneous information. You have a difference of opinion, that's fine. That doesn't make anyone of us wrong. Why can't you understand that? It's the pot calling the kettle black. You cannot bitch about insults (something that I didn't do...I didn't insult you) and precede to insult me in the same sentence.



The fact if the matter is that we're facing a global economic crisis. Our economy will not get better until the global economy gets better. It doesn't matter who's elected on Novemeber 6th. Anyone expecting any of the 120+ candidates to be miracle workers needs to read up on the global economy. They also need to be realistic. I was realistic when Obama became elected, and that's why I'm not 100% disappointed with his administration.



I'm not on a "free ride." The illogic that you and your cronies spew about the bulk of Obama supporters being on PA is 100% incorrect. The poorest states are the reddest states. These states have the most people on PA. That's a fact. Like I said earlier, I'm not on PA. I never have been and I never will be on it.




A deity that I don't believe in will not so anything for me. I do not believe in your God--keep him out of this conversation.

Whatever it is that you're smoking, you need to put it down. Crazy doesn't look good on anyone.



Quoting sheepinarowboat:


You lost all your credibility when you started with "LOL!!".  If I can achieve an account here...I can google "Socialism" and encourage others to do so.  Redistribution of wealth is socialist. Perhaps YOU need to do some reading yourself.


Why is it the very people that deny Obama is a socialist ALSO have to add in there that socialism isn't such a bad idea. Probably because they are either getting paid by the Obama camp or have a phone or recieve food stamps, medical coverage etc.  Socialism is bad because you always always always end up running out of other people's money.  


SOCIALISM


1.  : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods.




2.a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property


 b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state




3.  : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional betweencapitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done


So it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see why this is a BAD idea.  Wake up and smell the bread lines.  


Binders full of women?  Where do you keep your list of potential candidates?  If you are trying to make sure you give equal opportunity to women, you may have a list of women to choose frome who have to hire or resource out.  You have a problem with Romney hiring women?  You sound sexist.


Why would I blame Bush for anything that happened when the Democrats had a SUPER MAJORITY?  They had run of this country and could override Bush's veto power so perhaps you need to read some history.


26 days?  OH so now your admitting they had a super majority.  You always talk out of both sides of your face?  I disagree with your 26 days to be sure.  However long they had it...they forced legislature down our throats forcing lenders to lend mortgages loans to subprime lenders as a way of evening the playing field for the poor.  Everyone knew it couldn't be continued indefinitely.  The lenders just had to eat it and as the forclosures rained down on us...you all turned your wagging tongues and wagging fingers as President Bush.  Hypocrits!  Hypocrits!  The democrats did this to our country. Not Bush or the Republicans.  It'll take a strong Republican to fix this.  Stand back and let the country do what it was intended to do and recover.  If you all can't do the job, get out of the way of the ones who can.  Oh and if you care so much about our economy, send back your free phone and get a job!!!!


Candy did recant.  She's been made a laughing stock of the world.  Your entire post is suspect.  Are you being paid by the Obama administration too?  I notice your using the typical method of trying to discredit my information and throwing out erroneous information.  This tactic of insults and false information won't work with me.  I've been dealing with this gutter mentality for decades now.  This information is out there for anyone who pays attention and isn't in this for a free hand out.  Self determination and independance is the American way.  Remember rugged individualism?  You all haven't killed it yet.  I can't WAIT to sing the good bye song to Obama when he has to pack up and move out of the White House.  If he gets re-elected then America deserves anything he has to dish out.  If people don't want to stand up and fight for their way of life and freedom...then they deserve what comes down the pike.  Enjoy your free ride for a little longer!  I pray God moves on the hearts of Americans to bring freedom and prosperity back to this nation.  You aren't going to get it with socialism.











Carpy
by Platinum Member on Oct. 24, 2012 at 4:53 PM
Apparently, some can't see when they are getting egged on with sarcasm.

Quoting imamomzilla:

 The banter on the tail end of this thread is priceless...


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