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Aftermath Analysis : Republicans - who do you blame most for the loss?

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Republicans - who do you blame most for the loss?    Order the following from BIGGEST INFLUENCE to LEAST INFLUENCE:


eg:

BIGGEST INFLUENCE

  • The last minute improved job figures
  • Sandy
  • Chris Christie
  • Third party voters and "Jesus" write ins
  • The religious wing
  • The 1% wing
  • The leaked 47% recording
  • Biased media
  • Fraudulent voting
  • The perception of there being a war on women
  • The debates
  • Romney
  • Ryan
  • Not enough money to get the message over
  • It was the electorate's fault for being blind or greedy
  • Fate or Predestination
  • Satan's will
  • God's will
  • President Obama did well
  • Bush
  • The economic crisis under Bush (eg bankers/homeowners/etc)
  • Immigrants
  • Homosexuals
  • The campaign tacticians who decided how to divide Romney's warchest
  • Particular policies in the platform (please specify)
  • Poor communication

LEAST INFLUENCE

by on Nov. 7, 2012 at 2:59 AM
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Clairwil
by Gold Member on Nov. 12, 2012 at 8:05 PM
Quoting Billiejeens:

Quoting Clairwil:
Other than you, who in the world mentioned crime?

Go ahead, give us an explanation of your remarks that isn't in some way insulting to the Hispanic portion of the population of the USA.

Billiejeens
by on Nov. 13, 2012 at 7:24 AM


Quoting Clairwil:

Quoting Billiejeens:

Quoting Clairwil:
Other than you, who in the world mentioned crime?

Go ahead, give us an explanation of your remarks that isn't in some way insulting to the Hispanic portion of the population of the USA.


Billiejeens
by on Nov. 13, 2012 at 7:25 AM


Quoting Clairwil:

Quoting Billiejeens:

Quoting Clairwil:
Other than you, who in the world mentioned crime?

Go ahead, give us an explanation of your remarks that isn't in some way insulting to the Hispanic portion of the population of the USA.

Other than you, who is talking about Hispanics?

Adama44
by New Member on Nov. 16, 2012 at 12:10 PM
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Quoting MsDenuninani:


Quoting peachesforme:


Investment in infrastructure?  Riiiiight. 

Investment in infrastructure?  Riiiiight. 

You do not seem to know much about the stimulus bill.  I don't have the patience to explain it to you -- and it's too big, frankly, to try in this kind of format.  If you care, do your own research.  You have been woefully misguided if you do not believe that there was infrastructure spending within that bill.  (And I've got several roads and buildings within a 15 mile radius of my home that proves it.)

 I don't use any other gov't "service"

Do you drive?  Do you go to the library? Ever use a bus?  A doctor? A hospital?  Talk to a policeman? Go to a school? Eat food? Then you use government services.  And, oh yeah, you're a bit safer because of the military -- which my taxes pay more for than yours.  I hate to break it to you, but government touches every aspect of our lives,

Redistribution is a socialist concept.

If redistribution is a socialist concept -- then you've got a lot more than Obama to blame for it.  We currently use a tax system that redistributes wealth, and have under every Republican president for the last 100 years.  And you should probably look at what's going on with your Governor, too.

Further -- are you eligible for the mortgage interest rate deduction?  As a practical matter, you really should make sure you're getting it if you qualify.  I'm saying that to be genuinely helpful -- I don't like to hear of any family "struggling" and I think we are all entitled to every financial benefit we are eligible for.  (Corporations and rich people benefit greatly under various tax loopholes -- why shouldn't you?) And the same about the student loan interest rate deduction -- which I also think you should take advantage of, if you are not already.  I'm assuming you're already claiming your three kids. 

(As an aside, part of the reason that Obama wants the rich to pay more, is to protect these deductions that are available to the middle class.)

 Why do you think this country is the richest country in the history of the world?  Socialism didn't build that.  Capitalism did.

Um, I really just don't think you understand the complex ways in which socialism and capitalism interplay in our economy.  You seem intent on thinking it's black and white, with one good and one evil.  I don't see it that way.  I like capitalism, and benefit under it in the U.S.  I also think that some level of redistribution is necessary to secure a thriving middle class -- and that a thriving middle class is what is necessary in a first world country such as ours.  So we just see it differently -- but I do believe that my view is more based in reality, and I'll just leave it at that.

I am glad your taxes are about to increase even more under Obama's regime.

I love this country.  Let me say it again -- I love this country.  From the clean water, to the internet, to the building codes that mean my house will stand after a hurricane, to the freedom of speech, to the commitment to ideals of equality and fairness embedded in the civil rights movement (and the recent state votes for marriage equality.)  In my view, paying my fair share of taxes is a way of giving back to the country which has given me so much.  Further, for me, it's not about increases in taxes per se, it's about who's making the decisions and whether I trust him.  I trust this guy -- definitely more than I trusted the other one.  And that's pretty much it.

This brought tears of pride and comraderie to my eyes. You were able to articulate so well how many of us feel.

I would like to add I don't know how any of us look at our fellow americans who need a hand up and don't think there but for the grace of God I go...

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