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Congratulations to the Democrats and Young People! You now own it. 

"The next terrorist attack you own it. Can't get a job after graduation, you own it. Sky rocketing energy prices due to Obama's EPA shutting down the energy producing states, you own it. A nuclear Iran, you own it. Bowing to the Soviet Union, you own it. Another severe recession, you own it. A volatile border with Mexico, you own it. Trouble getting good health care, you own it. Higher heath insurance costs and health care costs, you own it. No budget, you own it. Our allies mistrust, you own it. Another trillion of debt, you own it. More Benghazi situations, you own it. No one willing to join the military, you own it. Trouble getting a loan to buy a home, you own it. More dependency on food stamps, you own it. Trouble finding good employment, you own it. Several part time jobs instead of a good job, you own it. A World Government, you own it. The UN governing the United States 

instead of ourselves, you own it. A Senate that will not bring any legislation to the table rather it is "Dead on Arrival", you own it. China controlling our world trade trampling all over us, you own it. Loss of our freedoms as we have known it in the past, you own it. A dictatorship instead of a democracy that follows the Constitution, you own it. Less take home pay and higher living costs, you own it. Driving a car that looks like a toy, you own it. More government corruption and lies, you own it. More toleration of extreme and fanatical Islamist's, you own it. Terrorist attacks called work place incidents, you own it. Your revenge instead of love of country, you own it. President George Bush is out of it now, and there is not another good man for you to vilify and lie about. In a way I am relieved that another good man will not be blamed when it was impossible to clean up this mess you voted for. 

Have a good day. God bless the United States and Texas! God is our hope now."
- Renee Price
by on Nov. 9, 2012 at 1:11 AM
Replies (71-80):
emeraldangel2.0
by on Nov. 9, 2012 at 5:20 PM

because you dont want all of your other secrets coming out, either

Quoting pj2becca21:

Yes, this is not what i wrote. I won't even repost that on this group. 

Quoting rnchelle93:

Wait, aren't you also the individual who thinks women shouldn't work? This post makes sense now!




skmehlebam
by on Nov. 9, 2012 at 5:26 PM
My comment was sarcasm based on the fact obama blames everything on Bush. Sooooo, if that's the case 9-11 is Clinton's fault.

Quoting elliephant:

 i have to laugh at this because when obama came into power, people were freaking out that he hadnt "turned the economy" around in 3 weeks.  I remember having that assinine conversation with someone in february, and alot of people felt that way. that he hadnt done anything..and it was less than a month. Of course they continue to blame him...despite the fact that it was Bush who created the economy.


Quoting skmehlebam:


 Nope, that was Clinton's fault. Bush had only been in the WH for 9 months :D


Quoting Raintree:

Pitiful, sad little loser you are, OP.

Good to know that we can now say Bush and everyone who voted for him owns the attack on 9/11/01 now, because you can't have it both ways.

 


 

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pj2becca21
by Bronze Member on Nov. 9, 2012 at 5:31 PM

no the words in it will get this post deleted!!! becuase some on will get all but hurt... trust me i have no secrets to hide. i'm a open book you can ask me anything 

Quoting emeraldangel2.0:

because you dont want all of your other secrets coming out, either

Quoting pj2becca21:

Yes, this is not what i wrote. I won't even repost that on this group. 

Quoting rnchelle93:

Wait, aren't you also the individual who thinks women shouldn't work? This post makes sense now!




Momniscient
by on Nov. 9, 2012 at 5:32 PM
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Cool. I guess I own civil rights too. Rock on.
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DSamuels
by Gold Member on Nov. 9, 2012 at 5:34 PM

That's funny since Romney won 52-47% of people 50-64 and 56-44% of people over 65.

Quoting acrogodess:

I don't see wanting to take care of the nation's elderly as an entitlement issue and I never will. Romney lost the campaign as soon as he mentioned changing things like social security and Medicare which our nation's elderly worked for years and years and paid into for decades. They should be taken care of considering it is their money that earned interest and was used to pay for things. It is not their fault that the government, both Republican and Democrats alike have run up the national deficit. They were made promises that if they paid into these things it would be there to care for them.

Quoting Canvas_says:

Well, I'm confused since I didn't call it an obamaphone, or make any reference to having it been started from him I don't know how that makes me responsible for perpetrating false propaganda. The video that is up here is an Obama supporter so clearly your issue is with her talking about how Obama will give them all phones. I still support that it's an entitlement program which is being abused. 

Quoting acrogodess:

It was created to help the elderly and others with low income in order for them to have phone access in order to access their doctors, child's school Etc. For you to perpetuate it as the Obama phone as if it was started under him is to purposefully spread false propaganda and just makes you sound stupid. I cannot stand when people cannot do simple fact checking before spreading lies.



Quoting Canvas_says:

So because it was started under the Reagan administration, we aren't suppose to consider it an entitlement issue? 

Quoting acrogodess:

are you idiots still going on about the so called Obama phone? Educate yourselves. The free and low cost phone service was actually established under Republican president Reagan. It is not paid for out of income taxes, but by a tax everyone who pays for their own cell phone or landline pays for. It has nothing to do with Obama except that the cracked out lady in the video referred to it as an "Obama phone".




pj2becca21
by Bronze Member on Nov. 9, 2012 at 5:36 PM

Who that amanda todd girl.... Yeah I did. YOU flash your tits and then when people make fun of you for being dumb and you go and kill your self  yeah!!! Suicide is the easy way out of things. and does not solve the problem it makes a bigger one!!! 

Quoting emeraldangel2.0:

i don't knwo why anyone takes the OP seriously. she's pretty much said in other groups that a child deserved to die


DSamuels
by Gold Member on Nov. 9, 2012 at 5:54 PM
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Quoting kag1212:

Also I don't see how that can even work when there's treatments that don't work tor some people. Some times you know right away other some longer but cancer and treatments are very unpredictable.


Quoting kag1212:

Ive never heard of such a thing but if I could prove that was going on with my family member id be getting an attorney

Thank Obamacare for the new rules. Under this the nursing home my dad was sent to rehab for should have been fined. They took shitty care of him and he was admitted to a different hospital 19 days after he arrived at the nursing home. 

From USA Today

8:57AM EDT September 30. 2012 -

WASHINGTON (AP) — If you or an elderly relative have been hospitalized recently and noticed extra attention when the time came to be discharged, there's more to it than good customer service.

As of Monday, Medicare will start fining hospitals that have too many patients readmitted within 30 days of discharge due to complications. The penalties are part of a broader push under President Barack Obama's health care law to improve quality while also trying to save taxpayers money.

About two-thirds of the hospitals serving Medicare patients, or some 2,200 facilities, will be hit with penalties averaging around $125,000 per facility this coming year, according to government estimates.

Data to assess the penalties have been collected and crunched, and Medicare has shared the results with individual hospitals. Medicare plans to post details online later in October, and people can look up how their community hospitals performed by using the agency's "Hospital Compare" website.

It adds up to a new way of doing business for hospitals, and they have scrambled to prepare for well over a year. They are working on ways to improve communication with rehabilitation centers and doctors who follow patients after they're released, as well as connecting individually with patients.

"There is a lot of activity at the hospital level to straighten out our internal processes," said Nancy Foster, vice president for quality and safety at the American Hospital Association. "We are also spreading our wings a little and reaching outside the hospital, to the extent that we can, to make sure patients are getting the ongoing treatment they need."

Still, industry officials say they have misgivings about being held liable for circumstances beyond their control. They also complain that facilities serving low-income people, including many major teaching hospitals, are much more likely to be fined, raising questions of fairness.

"Readmissions are partially within the control of the hospital and partially within the control of others," Foster said.

Consumer advocates say Medicare's nudge to hospitals is long overdue and not nearly stiff enough.

"It's modest, but it's a start," said Dr. John Santa, director of the Consumer Reports Health Ratings Center. "Should we be surprised that industry is objecting? You would expect them to object to anything that changes the status quo."

For the first year, the penalty is capped at 1 percent of a hospital's Medicare payments. The overwhelming majority of penalized facilities will pay less. Also, for now, hospitals are only being measured on three medical conditions: heart attacks, heart failure and pneumonia.

Under the health care law, the penalties gradually will rise until 3 percent of Medicare payments to hospitals are at risk. Medicare is considering holding hospitals accountable on four more measures: joint replacements, stenting, heart bypass and treatment of stroke.

If General Motors and Toyota issue warranties for their vehicles, hospitals should have some similar obligation when a patient gets a new knee or a stent to relieve a blocked artery, Santa contends. "People go to the hospital to get their problem solved, not to have to come back," he said.

Excessive rates of readmission are only part of the problem of high costs and uneven quality in the U.S. health care system. While some estimates put readmission rates as high as 20 percent, a congressional agency says the level of preventable readmissions is much lower. About 12 percent of Medicare beneficiaries who are hospitalized are later readmitted for a potentially preventable problem, said the Medicare Payment Advisory Commission, known as MedPAC.

Foster, the hospital association official, said medication mix-ups account for a big share of problems. Many Medicare beneficiaries are coping with multiple chronic conditions, and it's not unusual for their medication lists to be changed in the hospital. But their doctors outside sometimes don't get the word; other times, the patients themselves don't understand there's been a change.

Another issue is making sure patients go to their required follow-up appointments.

Medicare deputy administrator Jonathan Blum said he thinks hospitals have gotten the message.

"Clearly it's captured their attention," said Blum. "It's galvanized the hospital industry on ways to reduce unnecessary readmissions. It's forced more parts of the health care system to work together to ensure that patients have much smoother transitions."

MedPAC, the congressional advisory group, has produced research findings that back up the industry's assertion that hospitals serving the poor, including major teaching facilities, are more likely to face penalties. But for now, Blum said Medicare is not inclined to grade on the curve.

"We have really tried to address and study this issue," said Blum. "If you look at the data, there are hospitals that serve a low-income patient mix and do very well on these measures. It seems to us that hospitals that serve low-income people can control readmissions very well."

Under Obama's health care overhaul, Medicare is pursuing efforts to try to improve quality and lower costs. They include rewarding hospitals for quality results, and encouraging hospitals, nursing homes and medical practice groups to join in "accountable care organizations." Dozens of pilot programs are under way. The jury is still out on the results.

Copyright 2012 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

DSamuels
by Gold Member on Nov. 9, 2012 at 5:59 PM
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Oh please! There was absolutely no way of knowing what day there would be an attack. There was absolutely no way of knowing planes would be flown into buildings. Even IF they had known about hijackings possible, up until 9/11 a hijacked plane was flown elsewhere, not into a building killing all on board plus other people. 

Do you really believe there was a brief that said "On 9/11/01 4 planes will be hijacked and flown into buildings"? If you do....well.....I have no words. SMH

Quoting Raintree:

Bush didn't read the brief! And he should have, because it could have been stopped.

Tell me skmweraksglm, what happened in September of 2008 while President Bush was still in office?


Your main issue is that your 'side' is incapable of accepting blame for what you do. In my mind, I think there is plenty of blame to go around, but I don't think you quite have the self reflection for that.

Quoting skmehlebam:

 Nope, that was Clinton's fault. Bush had only been in the WH for 9 months :D

Quoting Raintree:

Pitiful, sad little loser you are, OP.

Good to know that we can now say Bush and everyone who voted for him owns the attack on 9/11/01 now, because you can't have it both ways.

 



pj2becca21
by Bronze Member on Nov. 9, 2012 at 6:07 PM

I think she is more of a conspiracy nut job than me.... and i didn't think that was even possible!!!

Quoting DSamuels:

Oh please! There was absolutely no way of knowing what day there would be an attack. There was absolutely no way of knowing planes would be flown into buildings. Even IF they had known about hijackings possible, up until 9/11 a hijacked plane was flown elsewhere, not into a building killing all on board plus other people. 

Do you really believe there was a brief that said "On 9/11/01 4 planes will be hijacked and flown into buildings"? If you do....well.....I have no words. SMH

Quoting Raintree:

Bush didn't read the brief! And he should have, because it could have been stopped.

Tell me skmweraksglm, what happened in September of 2008 while President Bush was still in office?


Your main issue is that your 'side' is incapable of accepting blame for what you do. In my mind, I think there is plenty of blame to go around, but I don't think you quite have the self reflection for that.

Quoting skmehlebam:

 Nope, that was Clinton's fault. Bush had only been in the WH for 9 months :D

Quoting Raintree:

Pitiful, sad little loser you are, OP.

Good to know that we can now say Bush and everyone who voted for him owns the attack on 9/11/01 now, because you can't have it both ways.

 




Sisteract
by Socialist Hippie on Nov. 9, 2012 at 6:40 PM
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Oh honey, are you a mom?

What education and skill levels do you currently possess?

You have to learn how to help yourself. If you have kids, stop at the current number and get in school.

You present as undereducated and misguided. Without true skills and a solid education, you are in for a very, very rough road.


Quoting pj2becca21:

Let see I was in forth grade when bush was elected..... so i was 9. and in 04 i was 13 when he was re-elected so how do I own that!! please explain how a 9 year old then a 13 year old owns that..... I recall 9/11 it's like yestarday. Anthrax i recall it but very little!!! but everything else no i don't because i was at school learning. 

So i don't see how I could own anything. I didn't know the differance between the reps and dem. and at the time I did have any party affelation. I was a kid in school still playing with barbie dolls with my little cousin. come on people I'm only 20 here and this was the First election I voted in!!!

Quoting Raintree:

pj, are you twelve? What happened during Bush's tenure? Do you recall?

Here, I'll give you a little hint: 9/11, Anthrax, two wars, 7 attacks on embassies resulting in 31 deaths, March 2008 and Bear Stearns, moral hazard in September of 2008 and Lehman brothers, a flat out melt down, begging for bailouts and away he went.

You own that.



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