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Texas has the backing to secede

Posted by on Nov. 13, 2012 at 7:15 AM
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Hooray for Texas? I am really not sure how I feel about this.  I think it is ridiculous that they would consider secession simply because the democratic process didn't go their way but at the same time I don't think the US really needs this type of ignorance in it's government.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/texas-petition-secede-reaches-threshold-obama-comment/story?id=17701519#.UKI2Y4e5OHM

A petition for Texas to secede from the union, submitted to the White House, reached the number of signatures needed to draw comment from the Obama administration today.

The petition appeared on a section of the White House website called "We the People" that invites users with a U.S. zip code to submit or sign petitions about policy changes they would like to see. A petition must reach 25,000 signatures within 30 days for the administration to comment on it.

The petition  to "Peacefully grant the State of Texas to withdraw from the United States of America and create its own NEW government," was submitted on Friday of last week. Just three days later, it zoomed past the 25,000 mark at 3:22 p.m. today and kept going.

In order to sign a petition, users must register with the site using a valid email address and entering their zip code. The site's terms of participation indicates it has mechanisms in place to block spam, but it does not say anything about verifying zip codes or state residency.

Many signatures on the petition came from Texas, but some also claimed to be from other states, including Flagstaff, Ariz., Pinebluff, Ark., and Rio Rancho, N.M. Some did not publicly list their residency.

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At least 17 other states have similar petitions to the Texas secession request on the We the People forum including New Jersey, New York, Montana, Colorado, Louisiana, Georgia, Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Indiana, North Carolina, Kentucky, Mississippi, Missouri, South Carolina, Oregon and Michigan. The closest behind Texas was Louisiana with 15,617 signatures.

In 2009, Texas Gov. Rick Perry hinted that anti-Washington sentiment could lead residents of his state to seek independence from the union.

"There's a lot of different scenarios," Perry said. "We've got a great union. There's absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what might come out of that. But Texas is a very unique place, and we're a pretty independent lot to boot."

At time of publishing, Perry's office had not responded to a request for comment.

So far, the president has not commented on the petition and there is no guarantee that he will. The terms of participation give the president some loopholes.

"To avoid the appearance of improper influence, the White House may decline to address certain procurement, law enforcement, adjudicatory, or similar matters properly within the jurisdiction of federal departments or agencies, federal courts, or state and local government in its response to a petition," the site says.

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womanp0et
by Member on Nov. 13, 2012 at 7:22 AM
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It works for me. Instead of putting the fence up between TX and Mexico we can put it up between TX and the U.S. This country eats wa-a-ay too much red meat anyway!

Billiejeens
by Ruby Member on Nov. 13, 2012 at 7:36 AM
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I have read this petition thing before, and I have what I believe is a much superior idea (of course).

If you go to a party and someone(s) can't be responsible, gets overly drunk, acts inappropriately, you don't leave the party, you make them leave the party.

We need a really good petition requesting that California, Oregon, and Washington in the West, and the New England States be forced to secede.

The country that would be left would be fabulous.

Canvas_says
by Silver Member on Nov. 13, 2012 at 7:43 AM
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I'm not overly surprised when it comes to Texas, as long back as I can remember they have been talking of secession, it's hardly just because Obama became president again but a lot more to do with years of what they see as the government abusing them. 

momov4888
by Member on Nov. 13, 2012 at 8:03 AM
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While I have never heard of legislation passing for states to be removed from the Union, I know it's been since the Civil War when this actually happened.

I strongly believe  those who want to leave the Union are, as one older lady called them earlier, jumping ship because they don't all like the captain!

It doesn't matter who anyone voted for at this point. What matters is that we all work together for this country to move forward.Yesterday, I had lunch with a diverse group, ages 20-70, some men, some women..but ALL said it's time to roll up our sleeves and get to work.  Together.

I come from a big military family where it's considered an honor to serve and every generation has done so. I grew up on a base and maybe I see if differently for this reason, but we have FREEDOMS many countries will never know. Our diversity shouldn't divide us, but give us appreciation for the spice of life.


LIMom1105
by on Nov. 13, 2012 at 8:43 AM
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And impoverished. The bulk of tax revenue comes from the states you mention. Good luck on your own.

Crazy idea. Why should we secede because YOU are unhappy with the election?


Quoting Billiejeens:

I have read this petition thing before, and I have what I believe is a much superior idea (of course).


If you go to a party and someone(s) can't be responsible, gets overly drunk, acts inappropriately, you don't leave the party, you make them leave the party.


We need a really good petition requesting that California, Oregon, and Washington in the West, and the New England States be forced to secede.


The country that would be left would be fabulous.


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4kidz916
by Gold Member on Nov. 13, 2012 at 8:53 AM
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I really don't see it as being unhappy about just the election results.  I think they're unhappy about the direction the country is going in.  I don't think seceding is the answer but I do hope this will open the eyes of our politicians to see that America is not happy about the way country is being run.

Quoting LIMom1105:

And impoverished. The bulk of tax revenue comes from the states you mention. Good luck on your own.

Crazy idea. Why should we secede because YOU are unhappy with the election?


Quoting Billiejeens:

I have read this petition thing before, and I have what I believe is a much superior idea (of course).


If you go to a party and someone(s) can't be responsible, gets overly drunk, acts inappropriately, you don't leave the party, you make them leave the party.


We need a really good petition requesting that California, Oregon, and Washington in the West, and the New England States be forced to secede.


The country that would be left would be fabulous.



Dabberdoo
by on Nov. 13, 2012 at 8:56 AM
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These petitions are basically meaningless.  That website (from what I can gather) was created by the Obama administration for the American people to get the President's attention.  While the website claims he "has" to respond, he is under no legal obligation to respond.  The petition is worthless legally.  Its not an official action by the state of Texas or any other state for that matter.  It would be no different than if I got 25,000 signatures on paper and then walked them to the White House and left them at the door expecting a response from the president.  At this point its a bunch of disgruntled Americans "complaining" to the President and given the election results, I would say its fair to assume that about 49% of the population is a bit disgruntled right now.

As far as this being about losing the election, its not.  Talk of secession has been around Texas for many years.  Anyone that things this is about this election alone has their head in the sand.

Dabberdoo
by on Nov. 13, 2012 at 9:03 AM

BTW, there is no legal venue to secede.  There is also no language in the Constitution that prohibits secession.  What we DO have is a presidential proclamation stating that states don't have the right to secede which, I have no idea if that has an legal bearing at all.

JakeandEmmasMom
by Gold Member on Nov. 13, 2012 at 9:07 AM
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 Apparently they don't have much regard for the Constitution (and the process of election which is clearly laid out in it) that they claim to love so much.

emeraldangel2.0
by on Nov. 13, 2012 at 9:15 AM
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texas is the only state that can secede and get away with

to which i say good freaking riddance

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