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Hoping Republicans Learned A Lesson About Social Issues

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Social issues can overturn pocketbook issues when you are leery of the candidates personal views.Republicans need to rethink alienating voters  who would have otherwise voted for Romney.

It wasnt for the goodies....it was about character and integrity.America wanted a president for all people not just those viewed by conservatives worthy to be American.

by on Nov. 15, 2012 at 6:38 AM
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DSamuels
by Gold Member on Nov. 15, 2012 at 5:24 PM
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Ding ding ding....we have a winner! That's what 3 million rep voters did this time. And if they had voted, we'd have President Romney.

Quoting Peanutx3:

They will double down on the crazy rhetoric but when it comes right down to it what choice will they have?  We already know they won't vote for a dem, most of them wouldn't dare "waste their vote" by voting third party.  In the end no matter how moderate the republican candidate is they will vote republican.  I suppose they could decide to stay home and not vote. 

Quoting timeforprogress:

Isn't the socially conservative base still going to be an issue?  From what I can tell these folks are doubling down on the crazy rhetoric. 

Quoting JakeandEmmasMom:

IDK...I think that the leadership and strategists are seeing that they do need a new strategy. I imagine there will be focus groups and polls and studies over the next couple of years that will show that the majority of Amercans want less religion in government, not more. I'm predicting a more moderate candidate in 2016.

Quoting Peanutx3:

No sadly I don't think the republican party learned anything.  I fear we will see a much more conservative candidate in 4 years and that candidate will lose again to whatever candidate the dems put up.  The republican party, in order to survive or be relevant, needs to chose a candidate that appeals to those of us who are more in the center.  Lets face it the religious right will not vote for a dem so what does the republican party have to lose by putting up a more moderate candidate?




NancSBRN
by Bronze Member on Nov. 15, 2012 at 5:38 PM

I liked McCain in 2008 until they let the Tea Party run him off the road. And Romney was a weak pansy ass who didn't stand for one thing he didn't change his view on. 

JakeandEmmasMom
by Gold Member on Nov. 15, 2012 at 6:23 PM
McCain could have won had he not chosen a nut for his running mate.
Romney didn't come across as moderate.
The term RINO is ridiculous. It implies that the person using the term is the arbiter of what makes a Republican, and that just isn't the case.


Quoting DSamuels:

A moderate GOP, aka a RINO cannot win. We've tried it the last 2 elections. 

Quoting JakeandEmmasMom:

IDK...I think that the leadership and strategists are seeing that they do need a new strategy. I imagine there will be focus groups and polls and studies over the next couple of years that will show that the majority of Amercans want less religion in government, not more. I'm predicting a more moderate candidate in 2016.



Quoting Peanutx3:

No sadly I don't think the republican party learned anything.  I fear we will see a much more conservative candidate in 4 years and that candidate will lose again to whatever candidate the dems put up.  The republican party, in order to survive or be relevant, needs to chose a candidate that appeals to those of us who are more in the center.  Lets face it the religious right will not vote for a dem so what does the republican party have to lose by putting up a more moderate candidate?


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buttersworth
by Bronze Member on Nov. 15, 2012 at 7:56 PM

what do you say conservatives consider worthy Americans?

DSamuels
by Gold Member on Nov. 15, 2012 at 8:26 PM
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*shrugs* I couldn't stand McCain. I only voted for him because of the "nut" he chose as his running mate. Palin might have turned moderates off, but she energized conservatives who probably wouldn't have voted for McCain otherwise.

Romney didn't really come across as conservative. I think that could be why so many stayed home. I guess no one will ever really know, will they?


Quoting JakeandEmmasMom:

McCain could have won had he not chosen a nut for his running mate.
Romney didn't come across as moderate.
The term RINO is ridiculous. It implies that the person using the term is the arbiter of what makes a Republican, and that just isn't the case.


Quoting DSamuels:

A moderate GOP, aka a RINO cannot win. We've tried it the last 2 elections. 

Quoting JakeandEmmasMom:

IDK...I think that the leadership and strategists are seeing that they do need a new strategy. I imagine there will be focus groups and polls and studies over the next couple of years that will show that the majority of Amercans want less religion in government, not more. I'm predicting a more moderate candidate in 2016.



Quoting Peanutx3:

No sadly I don't think the republican party learned anything.  I fear we will see a much more conservative candidate in 4 years and that candidate will lose again to whatever candidate the dems put up.  The republican party, in order to survive or be relevant, needs to chose a candidate that appeals to those of us who are more in the center.  Lets face it the religious right will not vote for a dem so what does the republican party have to lose by putting up a more moderate candidate?



autodidact
by Silver Member on Nov. 15, 2012 at 9:20 PM
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MSNBC didn't make up romney's hateful 47 percent fuckery, but nice try. 

Quoting Billiejeens:


Quoting NancSBRN:

I guess they learned that disparaging certain group of people is not a good idea also. And you cannot to to Latino and Woman and Young people right before an election and say gee we would sure like your vote.

BTW Romney lost the Asian American vote by even more the he lost the Latino vote.  Most Republican are very out of touch with Main Stream America.

They have a lot they need to be thinking about, but will they time will tell.

The GOP says Gov. should stay out of people lives but have no problem feeling they can make health care decisions, the more women for example had access to affordable birth control the more abortion rates would come down. We will always have disagreement on Abortion and choice vs ProLife but we all use to agree  Rape was wrong. Paul Ryan feels the need to "Redefine Rape" really the is no such things as legitimate Rape.

I have lost so much respect for Congress in general and not just the GOP but mostly them. The Government has become a battle ground of Pundits and Partisans that do not see what is really happening to Main Stream American.  Dogma and Ideology has replace common sense.





Idiotic Post, turn off MSNBC, it is not good for your brain cells.

Oh speaking of MSNBC - NBC jwho ust spent a year convincing people like you how the economy had turned around, and how the war on women was all important - just announced huge layoffs.  Ha!





JakeandEmmasMom
by Gold Member on Nov. 15, 2012 at 9:37 PM
I'm not buying that anyone stayed home because they felt Romney wasn't conservative enough. That assertion is ridiculous. Conservatives hate Obama with the fire of a thousand suns. I don't think ANY conservative stayed home, regardless of how they felt about Romney's degree of conservatism.

Quoting DSamuels:

*shrugs* I couldn't stand McCain. I only voted for him because of the "nut" he chose as his running mate. Palin might have turned moderates off, but she energized conservatives who probably wouldn't have voted for McCain otherwise.

Romney didn't really come across as conservative. I think that could be why so many stayed home. I guess no one will ever really know, will they?


Quoting JakeandEmmasMom:

McCain could have won had he not chosen a nut for his running mate.

Romney didn't come across as moderate.

The term RINO is ridiculous. It implies that the person using the term is the arbiter of what makes a Republican, and that just isn't the case.




Quoting DSamuels:

A moderate GOP, aka a RINO cannot win. We've tried it the last 2 elections. 

Quoting JakeandEmmasMom:

IDK...I think that the leadership and strategists are seeing that they do need a new strategy. I imagine there will be focus groups and polls and studies over the next couple of years that will show that the majority of Amercans want less religion in government, not more. I'm predicting a more moderate candidate in 2016.





Quoting Peanutx3:

No sadly I don't think the republican party learned anything.  I fear we will see a much more conservative candidate in 4 years and that candidate will lose again to whatever candidate the dems put up.  The republican party, in order to survive or be relevant, needs to chose a candidate that appeals to those of us who are more in the center.  Lets face it the religious right will not vote for a dem so what does the republican party have to lose by putting up a more moderate candidate?



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DSamuels
by Gold Member on Nov. 15, 2012 at 9:56 PM
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Oh well, you have you opinion, I have mine. As least I was polite and didn't belittle your opinions no metter how I feel about them.
Quoting JakeandEmmasMom:

I'm not buying that anyone stayed home because they felt Romney wasn't conservative enough. That assertion is ridiculous. Conservatives hate Obama with the fire of a thousand suns. I don't think ANY conservative stayed home, regardless of how they felt about Romney's degree of conservatism.

Quoting DSamuels:

*shrugs* I couldn't stand McCain. I only voted for him because of the "nut" he chose as his running mate. Palin might have turned moderates off, but she energized conservatives who probably wouldn't have voted for McCain otherwise.

Romney didn't really come across as conservative. I think that could be why so many stayed home. I guess no one will ever really know, will they?


Quoting JakeandEmmasMom:

McCain could have won had he not chosen a nut for his running mate.


Romney didn't come across as moderate.


The term RINO is ridiculous. It implies that the person using the term is the arbiter of what makes a Republican, and that just isn't the case.






Quoting DSamuels:

A moderate GOP, aka a RINO cannot win. We've tried it the last 2 elections. 

Quoting JakeandEmmasMom:

IDK...I think that the leadership and strategists are seeing that they do need a new strategy. I imagine there will be focus groups and polls and studies over the next couple of years that will show that the majority of Amercans want less religion in government, not more. I'm predicting a more moderate candidate in 2016.









Quoting Peanutx3:

No sadly I don't think the republican party learned anything.  I fear we will see a much more conservative candidate in 4 years and that candidate will lose again to whatever candidate the dems put up.  The republican party, in order to survive or be relevant, needs to chose a candidate that appeals to those of us who are more in the center.  Lets face it the religious right will not vote for a dem so what does the republican party have to lose by putting up a more moderate candidate?



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LIMom1105
by on Nov. 15, 2012 at 9:59 PM

But who would the conservatives have voted for? Certainly not Obama. I do think McCain could have won with a different VP. I know quite a few moderates and independents who chose Obama because they couldn't stomach Palin as VP. 

Have you seen stats showing many Republicans chose not to vote? My impression was that many voted to make sure Obama didn't get re-elected. I'm curious if the rate of non voters was higher this year.

I think the problem lies with the candidate and the platform the GOP chose, plus the inability of the candidate to connect with Latino or Asian voters. 

Quoting DSamuels:

*shrugs* I couldn't stand McCain. I only voted for him because of the "nut" he chose as his running mate. Palin might have turned moderates off, but she energized conservatives who probably wouldn't have voted for McCain otherwise.

Romney didn't really come across as conservative. I think that could be why so many stayed home. I guess no one will ever really know, will they?


Quoting JakeandEmmasMom:

McCain could have won had he not chosen a nut for his running mate.
Romney didn't come across as moderate.
The term RINO is ridiculous. It implies that the person using the term is the arbiter of what makes a Republican, and that just isn't the case.


Quoting DSamuels:

A moderate GOP, aka a RINO cannot win. We've tried it the last 2 elections. 

Quoting JakeandEmmasMom:

IDK...I think that the leadership and strategists are seeing that they do need a new strategy. I imagine there will be focus groups and polls and studies over the next couple of years that will show that the majority of Amercans want less religion in government, not more. I'm predicting a more moderate candidate in 2016.



Quoting Peanutx3:

No sadly I don't think the republican party learned anything.  I fear we will see a much more conservative candidate in 4 years and that candidate will lose again to whatever candidate the dems put up.  The republican party, in order to survive or be relevant, needs to chose a candidate that appeals to those of us who are more in the center.  Lets face it the religious right will not vote for a dem so what does the republican party have to lose by putting up a more moderate candidate?




azaz
by on Nov. 15, 2012 at 10:18 PM

 Hmmm?wink Life without teabags?

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