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Denny's and others will impose a 5% Obamacare tax...sniggle

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Some Denny’s Restaurants To Charge 5% ‘Obamacare Surcharge’ To Deal With Health Care Legislation

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In the not-too-distant future, when you dine at some Denny’s restaurants, that “Moons Over My Hammy” sandwich will now come with an extra 5-percent surcharge.

Florida-based businessman John Metz, owner of 40 Denny’s franchise restaurants, plans to add the surcharge directly to customers’ checks as an up-close-and-personal way of dealing with the increased costs imposed by the Affordable Care Act, better known as “Obamacare,” which mandates that businesses with more than 50 workers must offer an approved insurance plan or pay a penalty of $2,000 for each full-time worker over 30 workers.

The ACA comes into full effect in January 2014. Metz says the direct surcharge is “the only alternative. I’ve got to pass on the cost to the customer.”

Metz stressed that he is not “anti-insurance,” but rather he understands the severe costs the legislation will impose on employers and employees alike: “Obviously, I’d love to cover all our employees under that insurance,” Metz told the Huffington Post. “But to pay $5,000 per employee would cost us $175,000 per restaurant and unfortunately, most of our restaurants don’t make $175,000 a year. I can’t afford it.”

The restauranteur is unconcerned with the potential backlash from doing what some might consider an expressly political statement by directly charging the customer for Obamacare. He told HuffPosthe is willing to take the heat, and that “We’re trying to get more restaurant operators rallied around the concept of adding a 5 percent surcharge to their bill to cover the costs of Obamacare as opposed to raising prices.”

Metz also plans to cut employee hours. “I think it’s a terrible thing. It’s ridiculous that the maximum hours we can give people is 28 hours a week instead of 40,” he said. “It’s going to force my employees to go out and get a second job.”

Full HuffPost report here.

LOL

by on Nov. 15, 2012 at 4:58 PM
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Canvas_says
by Silver Member on Nov. 15, 2012 at 5:37 PM
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Quoting MsDenuninani:


Quoting Canvas_says:

Are those 17 million children now insured? Or are they banking on the insurance afforded by Obamacare? We could have used just the mandate of requiring pre existing conditions coverage under current insurances without mandating coverage to the masses causing more complications in the family dynamic. 


Yes, they are.

And you can't get insurance companies to pay for pre-existing conditions without giving them more revenue, i.e. new customers.

That was the whole point.

Did you know that you're more likely to divorce if you have a sick child? (speaking of "more complications in the family dynamic")

Well with 40 percent of all children being born to unwed mothers, I hardly pay attention to what a sick child brings to a relationship. What I do see is women working two or three part time jobs causing more fracturing to the very delicate structure just to make ends meet. 

How is being underemployed going to help anyone? 

JustCJ
by on Nov. 15, 2012 at 5:39 PM
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Bullshit that is not what I'm talking about. I am speaking in terms of anything that is potentially not healthy for us we won't be able to have...because of the cost effect it will have on our socialized health care. It's already starting...just like we said it would. 

Quoting MsDenuninani:


Quoting JustCJ:

That would roll down eventually to the food you buy at the super market. Sorry I don't want to be told what I can, and can't eat. Because of our socialized health care...that I did not want either.

Quoting MsDenuninani:

I actually don't have a problem with this.

Given how the food contributes to ill health, I'm not about charging a health tax on it.

And if people stop going to the restaurant becuase of the additional charges, then perhaps local diners can get the benefit of their patronage.


You're already being told what you can, and can't eat.  It's called the FDA.

As for our health care, I don't want to let free-loaders continue to take advantage of a system that pays for their emergency care when they need it, without them having put in one dime in the meantime just because they "didn't want it."


Carpy
by Platinum Member on Nov. 15, 2012 at 5:40 PM
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It will still increase whether they call it what it is, or not.

Quoting MsDenuninani:



Quoting Canvas_says:


I have a problem with it for the drivers out on the road, one of the major customers for Denny's diners as a whole. You can't exactly pull your big rig up to a local mom and pop. 


Quoting MsDenuninani:


I actually don't have a problem with this.


Given how the food contributes to ill health, I'm not about charging a health tax on it.


And if people stop going to the restaurant becuase of the additional charges, then perhaps local diners can get the benefit of their patronage.




Fair point, but basic economics tells me that supply rises to meet demand. The big rigs will either pay for it, or other restaurants will accomodate them.


IHOP, anybody?

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JustCJ
by on Nov. 15, 2012 at 5:40 PM
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But, but then they wouldn't have as much control. sniff

Quoting SeakingPeace:

 I agree with Canvas!

"We could have used just the mandate of requiring pre existing conditions coverage under current insurances without mandating coverage to the masses causing more complications in the family dynamic. "  The whole darn health care system didn't need to be revised.

 

Quoting Canvas_says:

Are those 17 million children now insured? Or are they banking on the insurance afforded by Obamacare? We could have used just the mandate of requiring pre existing conditions coverage under current insurances without mandating coverage to the masses causing more complications in the family dynamic. 

Quoting MsDenuninani:


Quoting Canvas_says:

What does that have to do with now being forced to work several jobs to support yourself instead of one job? And still not getting those benefits. 

Quoting MsDenuninani:


Quoting Canvas_says:

I can only imagine how much harder dealing with family issues are going to be when you are forced to work two or three different part time jobs, just to keep up with bills because this mandate has made it where you can't just work the one you had before. 

Tell that to the 17 million children with pre-existing conditions that now can actually get health care.

"dealing with family issues," indeed.


I'm pointing out that "dealing with family issues" means different things to different people.

Plus, your scenario is speculative.  Mine is fact.


 


kris0921
by Member on Nov. 15, 2012 at 5:48 PM
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I could not of said it better myself. My husband is now going to be bring home less money even after taking me off of his insurance. Its sad I have to start working instead of staying home with my son and daughter. Glad I don't have to pay daycare or we would really be in trouble.


Quoting SallyMJ:

This shouldn't surprise anyone. Employers and economists have been warning the public and the Obama administration about these unintended consequences for the past 4 years. Nobody has an endless supply of funds, especially for cost increases of this magnitude. So basically, this Denny's owner is saying his overall costs (not just his healthcare costs) under Obamacare increased by 5%. That is huge!


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lwalker270
by Member on Nov. 15, 2012 at 5:49 PM

Denny's is gross, so I won't be paying their 5% surcharge.

Paperfishies
by Bronze Member on Nov. 15, 2012 at 5:53 PM
I wonder how many medium to large businesses will be going out of business in the next 4 years.
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JustCJ
by on Nov. 15, 2012 at 5:56 PM
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I hate to be crude...but we all know I'm pretty crude so here it goes. Where the fuck do these assholes think the money is going to come from? The sheep voters have no clue the mess this is going to make. There is no telling them either.


Quoting Paperfishies:

I wonder how many medium to large businesses will be going out of business in the next 4 years.


rocketracer
by Gold Member on Nov. 15, 2012 at 5:57 PM
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Before you know it the "brain trust in DC" will try to pass a law that will require businesses to have a certain percentage of the staff employed full time.....

Paperfishies
by Bronze Member on Nov. 15, 2012 at 5:58 PM
I predict that many fast food places are going to be in trouble. Most franchise owners own more than one restaraunt and they depend on part time workers. Scary.


Quoting JustCJ:

I hate to be crude...but we all know I'm pretty crude so here it goes. Where the fuck do these assholes think the money is going to come from? The sheep voters have no clue the mess this is going to make. There is no telling them either.


Quoting Paperfishies:

I wonder how many medium to large businesses will be going out of business in the next 4 years.



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