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Denny's and others will impose a 5% Obamacare tax...sniggle

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Some Denny’s Restaurants To Charge 5% ‘Obamacare Surcharge’ To Deal With Health Care Legislation

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In the not-too-distant future, when you dine at some Denny’s restaurants, that “Moons Over My Hammy” sandwich will now come with an extra 5-percent surcharge.

Florida-based businessman John Metz, owner of 40 Denny’s franchise restaurants, plans to add the surcharge directly to customers’ checks as an up-close-and-personal way of dealing with the increased costs imposed by the Affordable Care Act, better known as “Obamacare,” which mandates that businesses with more than 50 workers must offer an approved insurance plan or pay a penalty of $2,000 for each full-time worker over 30 workers.

The ACA comes into full effect in January 2014. Metz says the direct surcharge is “the only alternative. I’ve got to pass on the cost to the customer.”

Metz stressed that he is not “anti-insurance,” but rather he understands the severe costs the legislation will impose on employers and employees alike: “Obviously, I’d love to cover all our employees under that insurance,” Metz told the Huffington Post. “But to pay $5,000 per employee would cost us $175,000 per restaurant and unfortunately, most of our restaurants don’t make $175,000 a year. I can’t afford it.”

The restauranteur is unconcerned with the potential backlash from doing what some might consider an expressly political statement by directly charging the customer for Obamacare. He told HuffPosthe is willing to take the heat, and that “We’re trying to get more restaurant operators rallied around the concept of adding a 5 percent surcharge to their bill to cover the costs of Obamacare as opposed to raising prices.”

Metz also plans to cut employee hours. “I think it’s a terrible thing. It’s ridiculous that the maximum hours we can give people is 28 hours a week instead of 40,” he said. “It’s going to force my employees to go out and get a second job.”

Full HuffPost report here.

LOL

by on Nov. 15, 2012 at 4:58 PM
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lwalker270
by Member on Nov. 16, 2012 at 12:35 PM

No, we don't agree.  I simply said passing costs on is very different than a surcharge (political statment).  I never said anything about believing costs would increase overall.

I presume by "my boy" you mean Obama?  I never said he was "my boy" just that I didn't believe a large number of business would be making a similar political statement of implementing a surcharge.  

Quoting Billiejeens:

Sounds as if we are in total agreement that the cost will go up, you simply don't want them to embarrass your boy, by making it obvious.

Okay.

Quoting lwalker270:

Passing a tax or cost onto the consumer through the increased cost of goods and services is much different that making a surcharge regarding specific political policy or law.  It has nothing to do with business practices, it is a political statement and nothing more.  It's certainly his prerogative, just as it's my prerogative not to eat there.

Quoting Billiejeens:

My goodness, that wasn't even close to insulting, no need to be so fragile.

Degreed! Oh great, so you know what embedded taxes are. Educate me on how/why a business wouldn't pass on an embedded tax.

Quoting lwalker270:

LOL...I don't know, are you capable of replying without insulting the intelligence of a poster who has a differing view?

I tell you what, you sit in your tinfoil hat and wait until everyone starts charging this surcharge, but I'm not holding my breath.

And I have a business degree and had a career in business, so I am, in fact, not ignorant of how business works :)

Quoting Billiejeens:

I dunno, are you just hopelessly naive, completely ignorant of how business works, or is there another answer?

Quoting lwalker270:

Well, this shouldn't need to be said either, but not everyone is over-reactive and not everyone will be charging a surcharge.



Quoting Billiejeens:



Quoting lwalker270:


Denny's is gross, so I won't be paying their 5% surcharge.


This shouldn't need to be said, but.....


Denny's is just putting a name and a face to it, the surcharge will be everywhere.


More middle class destruction.










The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function.

~ F. Scott Fitzgerald



Sisteract
by Socialist Hippie on Nov. 16, 2012 at 1:10 PM

Good for them.

I can't believe that people eat that crap.

mom_3.0
by Member on Nov. 16, 2012 at 1:14 PM
I cant wait til my premiums go up because of this & then im forced onto Medicaid.
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Billiejeens
by Ruby Member on Nov. 16, 2012 at 1:32 PM


Quoting mom_3.0:

I cant wait til my premiums go up because of this & then im forced onto Medicaid.


No one should have private health insurance in the first place, why should you have better care than someone else, everyone should have the same crappy government care, it's only fair.

 

mom_3.0
by Member on Nov. 16, 2012 at 2:58 PM

You sound like a Socialist.

Quoting Billiejeens:


Quoting mom_3.0:

I cant wait til my premiums go up because of this & then im forced onto Medicaid.


No one should have private health insurance in the first place, why should you have better care than someone else, everyone should have the same crappy government care, it's only fair.



Billiejeens
by Ruby Member on Nov. 16, 2012 at 3:23 PM
Quoting mom_3.0:




Hmm,

I was going for sarcasm.
mom_3.0
by Member on Nov. 16, 2012 at 9:16 PM
1 mom liked this
Its sad that so many people seriously do think that way to a point where I did not recognize that as sarcasm :/


Quoting Billiejeens:

Quoting mom_3.0:






Hmm,



I was going for sarcasm.

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LIMom1105
by on Nov. 17, 2012 at 7:42 AM
So, the owner says he's charging customers more to pay for the healthcare he must provide. But at the end if the article he also states that he must cut employee hours. Why? So he doesn't have to provide healthcare. He only needs to buy it for FT employees.

So he's greedy and trying to make money off customers to provide a benefit he's not going to provide.
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Canvas_says
by Silver Member on Nov. 17, 2012 at 9:31 AM

No, he won't be providing the insurance. However, he will still face fines for not having government approved insurance for those of his employees that are over 30 hours. He can't cut all his employee's hours under 30 such as management, and some others. So yeah, he will have additional fines to pass of to the customer. Much less than if he went ahead and kept all his employees as they are now. 

Quoting LIMom1105:

So, the owner says he's charging customers more to pay for the healthcare he must provide. But at the end if the article he also states that he must cut employee hours. Why? So he doesn't have to provide healthcare. He only needs to buy it for FT employees.

So he's greedy and trying to make money off customers to provide a benefit he's not going to provide.


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