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O/T : Why We Should Take ‘Two And A Half Men’ Star Angus T. Jones Seriously

Posted by on Nov. 27, 2012 at 11:49 PM
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Why We Should Take ‘Two And A Half Men’ Star Angus T. Jones Seriously


There’s been a lot of furor in Hollywood over a Christian witness video made by Angus T. Jones, who for ten seasons has played the half man on Two and a Half Men, in which he calls out the show that’s been his paycheck, asking viewers:

Please stop filling your head with filth. Please. People say it’s just entertainment. The fact that it’s entertainment. Do some research on the effects of television and your brain and I promise you you’ll have a decision to make when it comes to the television…It’s bad news. I don’t know if it means any more coming from me. But you might have heard it otherwise. But watch out…A lot of people don’t like to think how deceptive the enemy is. He’s been doing this a lot longer than any of us have been around…You cannot be a true, God-fearing person and be on a show like that.

The video itself is a rambling splice of several conversations, in which Jones discusses how he came to Seventh Day Adventism, what the series of study videos he’s endorsing in this clip means to him, and, in fairly generic terms, what he’s learned about the impact of entertainment on viewers:

I understand why this is an entertainment industry story—Jones is effectively pulling an inverse Charlie Sheen, whose meltdown-fueled insults to the show’s producers got him fired, and explaining why he’s too rectitudinous to continue working on Two and a Half Men, which maybe says something about a past expiration date for a show that was once one of CBS’s biggest hits. And certainly it’s fair for critics to ask whether Jones intends to stop cashing a paycheck and live up to his standards for being “a true, God-fearing person.”

But I’d actually like to hear in more detail what Jones thinks about the show where he effectively grew up. How did Two and a Half Men affect Jones’ views of women? What did the show’s perspective teach him about what it means to be a good man, and a successful man, if the two ideas are different? When he interacts with fans of the show, do they seem to be taking away different messages than the ones he thought he grew up conveying? How does he feel about Jake, the character he’s playing, specifically? I’d imagine Jones’ critique of the show might skew more towards the show’s deviations from Biblically-ordained gender roles, where mine might focus on the show’s dismissive attitudes about women. And I’m more likely to blame the work of Man rather than the Adversary for creating those images and disseminating those attitudes. But I don’t think Jones is wrong to take culture, or his role in producing it, seriously.

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mikiemom
by Silver Member on Nov. 28, 2012 at 1:17 PM
He recanted this morning and apologized and yes he did have a melt down. charlie sheen came out and said the show was cursed lol
Raintree
by Gold Member on Nov. 30, 2012 at 7:38 PM

He didn't 'recant'. He came out and said that the way he stated his position probably hurt people he's worked with, and he apologized for the way he said it. That's all.

There is a HUGE conversation and freak-out-fest going on behind the scenes in the church right now.

Quoting mikiemom:

He recanted this morning and apologized and yes he did have a melt down. charlie sheen came out and said the show was cursed lol


Kate_Momof3
by Platinum Member on Nov. 30, 2012 at 7:45 PM

 I saw that he apologized. What's going on with church? Are they worried his testimonial will hurt them somehow?

Quoting Raintree:

He didn't 'recant'. He came out and said that the way he stated his position probably hurt people he's worked with, and he apologized for the way he said it. That's all.

There is a HUGE conversation and freak-out-fest going on behind the scenes in the church right now.

Quoting mikiemom:

He recanted this morning and apologized and yes he did have a melt down. charlie sheen came out and said the show was cursed lol


 

Kate_Momof3
by Platinum Member on Nov. 30, 2012 at 7:53 PM

 None of the characters on that show are particularly admirable. It's their flaws that made it hilarious. However, as a 39 year old woman, I probably see it very differently than a teen boy. There is a heavy emphasis on "casual sex" and Charlie Sheen's character was a pig, but that's what made the show funny. I can appreciate it being seen as misogynistic. A 19 year old me would have been outraged and deeply offended. I guess I've lost my outrage.

Raintree
by Gold Member on Nov. 30, 2012 at 8:34 PM

Well, there are a number of players involved.

ATJ joined a local SDA church and did an interview with Adventist Media Center before he did the testimony film with Christ Hudson, who is not an official pastor with the church, but who runs an independent ministry, "Forerunner Chronicles". He IS a member of the church himself, however, and has spoken at various SDA schools - I saw a sermon posted at Oakwood College, for example. He does his own sermon videos on youtube- has some savvy about marketing his ministry.

BUT. The guy is kind of off according to official church... concerns. He does sermons about the Illuminati and crazy theories about why masturbation is bad for your health, for example. This isn't what you get in any regular SDA church.Maybe in the 19th century, but not today.

He also does a show on 3ABN (Three Angels Broadcasting Network)- which is a media company "ministry" that airs here and there- mostly through satellite. Based out of Illinois- I was on their freaky show once.  They have had some MAJOR issues in the past as well, but are pretty heavily supported by Adventists in general- but not officially by the church organization. I'm not sure that many of those folks know what's happened there in the last 12 years, however. The founders were divorced in a somewhat questionable way for questionable reasons- he remarried almost right away. Brought his brother in to help- his brother was from a different church and apparently had molested children. Danny Shelton (the founder) knew this but sheltered his brother and now there are legal issues- obviously.

SO! The NAD (North American Division of SDA) has basically tried to distance themselves from this "pastor" Hudson that ATJ found on youtube (who is, once again, NOT the pastor of ATJ's actual church) and meanwhile, the president of the General Conference used 3ABN and freaking Danny Shelton to further his attempt to silence any noise from the women's ordination crowd- and now 3ABN is sticking up for Hudson, who's show they put out there and who's materials they sell.

It's a PR nightmare, brought on by the conservative factions in the church.

Quoting Kate_Momof3:

 I saw that he apologized. What's going on with church? Are they worried his testimonial will hurt them somehow?

Quoting Raintree:

He didn't 'recant'. He came out and said that the way he stated his position probably hurt people he's worked with, and he apologized for the way he said it. That's all.

There is a HUGE conversation and freak-out-fest going on behind the scenes in the church right now.

Quoting mikiemom:

He recanted this morning and apologized and yes he did have a melt down. charlie sheen came out and said the show was cursed lol


 


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