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Senior Citizens Protest After Apartment Manager Bans Christmas Trees: ‘Where’s Our Freedom?’

Posted by on Dec. 6, 2012 at 11:50 AM
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Senior Citizens Protest After Apartment Manager Bans Christmas Trees: ‘Where’s Our Freedom?’

Residents at The Willows, a senior adult apartment complex in Newhall, California, are outraged after management banned the presence of Christmas trees and menorahs from communal areas within the building.

A memorandum was issued to residents by B Partners Group, demanding that the Christmas tree already present in one of the shared spaces be removed, as it is considered a religious symbol. Rather than backing down and complying, two dozen residents responded with a protest rally (featuring coffee and doughnuts). The group placed a sign on the tree that reads, “Please Save Our Tree.”

“We’re all angry. We want that tree,” Fern Sheel, a resident at The Willows, told the Los Angeles Daily News. “Where’s our freedom? This is ridiculous.”

Senior Citizens Protest After Apartment Manager Bans Christmas Trees: Wheres Our Freedom?

Photo Credit: Andy Holzman/Daily News Staff Photographer

“We could put out Easter baskets, have turkey for Thanksgiving but no tree for Christmas because it has Christ’s name in the beginning of Christmas,” added Edna Johnson, another outraged resident.

Another resident, Max Greenis, is so frustrated that he’s considering witholding his rent.

“I’ve got grandkids and they come here and now they’ll ask, ‘Grandpa, where’s the Christmas tree?,’” he told the Daily News. “Then I’ll have to explain that someone said we couldn’t have one. What kind of message is that sending to the kids?”

This is the first time that the company, which has owned the building for four years, has issued such a directive. So far, B Partners Group has not responded to the furor.

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JakeandEmmasMom
by Gold Member on Dec. 6, 2012 at 12:26 PM

 So, they are a privately owned company that owns the building?

Pema_Jampa
by 2HotTacoTini on Dec. 6, 2012 at 12:43 PM

So having one in your own apartment isn't enough? You need one in the hallway also...just for good measure?

Ednarooni160
by Eds on Dec. 6, 2012 at 12:45 PM


Quoting JakeandEmmasMom:

 So, they are a privately owned company that owns the building?

Shouldn't it have been in a clause in the agreement..kind of like "no animals allowed"..



Ednarooni160
by Eds on Dec. 6, 2012 at 12:46 PM
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This is the first time that the company, which has owned the building for four years, has issued such a directive.

shannonnigans
by Silver Member on Dec. 6, 2012 at 12:49 PM
Distortion.

Private company, didn't ban Xmas trees but menorahs as well, so one can assume its any religious symbol, and banned from communal areas only.

Unless someone can show some statute or case law to the contrary, bullet-proof.
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Ednarooni160
by Eds on Dec. 6, 2012 at 12:53 PM


Quoting shannonnigans:

Distortion.

Private company, didn't ban Xmas trees but menorahs as well, so one can assume its any religious symbol, and banned from communal areas only.

Unless someone can show some statute or case law to the contrary, bullet-proof.

Senors usually throw parties in these "communal areas".. That's were they socialize and get together.. Is a bunch of seniors suppose to gather at "ones" apartment for the holidays.

shannonnigans
by Silver Member on Dec. 6, 2012 at 12:54 PM
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We are talking about communal areas, not their apartments. In their apartments they have the absolute right to turn it into Santa's Village if that is their desire.


Quoting Ednarooni160:



Quoting JakeandEmmasMom:

 So, they are a privately owned company that owns the building?

Shouldn't it have been in a clause in the agreement..kind of like "no animals allowed"..




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JakeandEmmasMom
by Gold Member on Dec. 6, 2012 at 12:54 PM

 Shouldn't a business be allowed to make whatever rules it wants and ammend them at any time?  After all, your credit card company can change the terms of your agreement at any time, and without notice.

The residents do not own the common parts of the building.  Assuming it's a condo where they have to buy their residence, they only own their individual residence.  The building owner does not have the right to tell them what they can or can't do inside their residence.  But the common parts are owned by the owner of the building.

I'm not sure I even believe this story.  If the issue is truly "no Christmas tree because the word 'Christ' is in Christmas", why are menorahs on the list?  There is no "Christ" in "Hannukah."

Quoting Ednarooni160:

 

Quoting JakeandEmmasMom:

 So, they are a privately owned company that owns the building?

Shouldn't it have been in a clause in the agreement..kind of like "no animals allowed"..

 


 

Ednarooni160
by Eds on Dec. 6, 2012 at 12:55 PM
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Quoting shannonnigans:

We are talking about communal areas, not their apartments. In their apartments they have the absolute right to turn it into Santa's Village if that is their desire.


Quoting Ednarooni160:



Quoting JakeandEmmasMom:

 So, they are a privately owned company that owns the building?

Shouldn't it have been in a clause in the agreement..kind of like "no animals allowed"..




Which part of "THEY SOCIALIZE and GET TOGETHER for parties  in these areas did you not understand?

Pema_Jampa
by 2HotTacoTini on Dec. 6, 2012 at 12:57 PM

They could socialize in each others apartments. Doesn't require a tree to socialize.

Well unless you are a tree lovin hippy but in that case you wouldn't have chopped it down and hung crap all over it.

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