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When It's Time to Give Up On Your Country

Posted by on Jan. 3, 2013 at 12:28 PM
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When It's Time to Give Up On Your Country
By Dr. Steve Sjuggerud
Thursday, January 3, 2013
France's leaders are calling actor Gerard Depardieu "unpatriotic" and "pathetic."

You see, Depardieu is leaving France. He's leaving because of the new French tax laws.

French President François Hollande is trying to push through a 75% income tax, plus a higher "wealth" tax, higher capital gains taxes, higher inheritance taxes, and a tax on selling your business, among other taxes.

Depardieu has had enough…

He said he paid 85% of his income in taxes last year. He says he's paid 145 million euros in taxes to France over his career (roughly $190 million).

So he's moving to Belgium to avoid taxes.

France's Prime Minister called this move "pathetic really." He continued: "Paying taxes is an act of patriotism and we're asking the rich to make a special effort here for the country."

At what level is tax no longer an "act of patriotism"? This question doesn't just apply to France… European countries are just a few years ahead of the U.S. in terms of becoming more socialist, with an insatiable demand for more of your income to pay for ever-growing government programs.

Depardieu took offense at being called "pathetic." Based on that, he offered to surrender his French passport. Belgium's finance minister said he welcomes Depardieu and "any other French citizens." And Russia's President Vladimir Putin offered Depardieu citizenship.

Other successful French citizens are leaving, too. For example, the founder of Moet Hennessy Louis Vuitton is also applying for citizenship in Belgium.

Even worse, not only are talented people leaving France, but you can't get talented people into France to work. "We can't bring high-level managers to France," Eric Chaney, an economist at French insurer AXA, told Bloomberg news. "They work in an international market. And the market price for those salaries is well above 1 million euros."

So major French companies are looking to hire senior managers in London or Amsterdam instead of Paris, Chaney explained. France will miss out on all their taxes. By raising tax rates so high, instead of getting more in taxes, France will get no taxes from these guys.

Again, at what level is tax no longer an "act of patriotism?" At what level does it become an "act of confiscation" by the government? And when that point is reached, when is it time to give up on your country?

I don't know what the right level is. It appears that Depardieu has found the level for himself… and that's 85% of his income.

What do you think is the right level? How much of your income should the government be allowed to take? Is Depardieu a traitor? Or is he courageous?

With ever-increasing budget deficits in the U.S., and no real political will (on either side of the aisle) to dramatically cut entitlements, it's a safe bet that higher and higher tax rates are coming in the U.S.

It's time to start thinking about how "patriotic" you want to be.
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pvtjokerus
by Gold Member on Jan. 3, 2013 at 12:36 PM

Growing up I always wondered how can these people could give up their citizenship especially from the U.S.   But as I get older, I realize that there are those that will keep taking and taking from your own pockets because they can't be responsible.  Many of the rich have departed the U.S. for this very reason.  Although I believe that the U.S. is still a great place, I now understand the above. Imagine living in France and working at McD's.  You receive $100 because you earned it but you have to give back close to $75.00 so that the government can spend it as they choose. 

imamomzilla
by on Jan. 3, 2013 at 12:37 PM

 It's pretty bad when Russia is your only option. I think they're welcoming him with open arms. LOL

imamomzilla
by on Jan. 3, 2013 at 12:38 PM

 Maybe it was Germany. I was half awake this morning...

Ednarooni160
by Eds on Jan. 3, 2013 at 12:40 PM
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Quoting imamomzilla:

 Maybe it was Germany. I was half awake this morning...

Belgium...LOL

Ednarooni160
by Eds on Jan. 3, 2013 at 12:41 PM

I'm surprised the French haven't had an inhouse Boston Tea Party by now.

Pema_Jampa
by Celeste on Jan. 3, 2013 at 12:42 PM

Maybe you are confused cause they speak French, Dutch, and German there?

imamomzilla
by on Jan. 3, 2013 at 12:42 PM
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 I know, right?

I can't even imagine give 75% of my income to the gov't.

Why work? Sheesh.

Quoting Ednarooni160:

I'm surprised the French haven't had an inhouse Boston Tea Party by now.

 

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Pema_Jampa
by Celeste on Jan. 3, 2013 at 12:43 PM

Belgium has a 50% tax rate and universal healthcare. Maybe the tax rate has gone up since I lived there.

imamomzilla
by on Jan. 3, 2013 at 12:46 PM
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 It would help if I'd read the OP. hehe

 

Quoting Ednarooni160:

 

Quoting imamomzilla:

 Maybe it was Germany. I was half awake this morning...

Belgium...LOL

 

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Meadowchik
by Gold Member on Jan. 3, 2013 at 12:47 PM
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Quoting Ednarooni160:

I'm surprised the French haven't had an inhouse Boston Tea Party by now.

 Actually the tax has been declared unconstitutional by a top French court.

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